Lexus's desperate comparison vid of the 435 vs RC350

VCP · 01-09-2015, 04:14 PM

We all have different senses of humor. You said " I'm pretty sure". How are you so sure? Any way I am not getting into a debate on your comment, it just made me laugh, and laughter is good, no?

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Originally Posted by Tomahawk

Why? Not sure where a joke was made.

VCP · 01-09-2015, 04:14 PM

Big hug

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Originally Posted by Tomahawk

Ah. now I see that this was officially released to the public by Lexus. That is strange. It plays out just like our BMW training videos in its delivery. So i assume the laugh was my denial of being a "commercial."

PCR0303 · 01-09-2015, 04:23 PM

Very "interesting" video. Serves little to no purpose because I doubt it will actually affect why I'd prefer RC to a 4er. Some things to note: Are the headlamps of the RC really LED? What is that 3 projector lighting upgrade that we see on the RC-F sometimes? How is the RC interior any sportier looking than the 4? Looks are subjective and I really don't like the look of the RC interior. However, I'll hand it to the Lexus for nice soft leather. I own a IS350 and a 428 and can already tell you the engine in the BMW is a lot better. So the powertrain comparison is inaccurate. Give it to the Lexus for the adaptive suspension already coming with the F-sport rather than being an add on. However, iDrive is way more intuitive than the Lexus Enform or whatever it's called. People have complained about the mouse thing. BMW also offers the HUD and Lexus doesn't. Otherwise everything else like the exterior is subjective.

But hey if I were paid, I'd probably say the same shit. I'd use that money though for my BMW.

Drizz · 01-09-2015, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by auf Deutsche

Powertrain advantages: makes me laugh. If Matrix were here, he'd laugh too.

Best reply I've ever seen. Good old Commando.

qadhi79 · 01-09-2015, 04:25 PM

She is giving the cost benefit lecture to a community where people spend a lot more to mod the 435i to look like M4

F30_M_Sport_Eurovan · 01-09-2015, 04:32 PM

I think it really IS a value but I just can't get over the horrible design. At every glance, the front reminds me of the Predator alien's mouth. This is just a so frick' fugly, I can't overlook it and I would NEVER buy a car that looks like that. The back is also very poorly styled. WTF Lexus -- your design team needs to be fired from the top down!

XclusiveM · 01-09-2015, 04:34 PM

BMW for the win! It is really sad that Lexus would go this low to try to knock a competitor! I mean seriously look at both of these cars I don't understand how someone can find that Lexus to be attractive.....

G80indy · 01-09-2015, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by F32Fleet

Plus you get dual DI/port injection. Gas mileage sucks but no carbon.

I really really hope the B58 has this also!!
Wishful?

kv12 · 01-09-2015, 04:36 PM

The way I see it is buy whichever car makes you feel good, and whichever one suits your lifestyle best!

But in the end our car choices are influenced by the people around us, as always I try to pick whichever one I like best.

After seeing that video, I'd get the 435i Coupe over the RC Coupe if I had the extra $10K thank you.

WJSM5 · 01-09-2015, 04:38 PM

Thank you Lexus College for helping me determine that the 435i not only looks better but is worth the extra money over the RC 350...

ticamihai2003 · 01-09-2015, 04:38 PM

If I was a Lexus owner this commercial would make me feel like an easy woman and embarrassed of owning a Lexus

F30_M_Sport_Eurovan · 01-09-2015, 04:39 PM

Totally agree with rori zahr

WilliCO · 01-09-2015, 04:42 PM

I believe that is supposed to be a sales training video, not really an ad. If you're a Lexus salesperson, it has exactly the data you need to position the RC350 against the 4.

I plan to cross-shop the RC350 when I am in the market next, and I see nothing wrong with this video at all.

e92ben · 01-09-2015, 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by KneeDragr

The Lexus looks too 'boy racer' to me. I doubt it appeals to many over the age of 40.

Sure it will. Mid life crisis

Tito44 · 01-09-2015, 04:53 PM

Uggh.. I wanted a BMW, but now that I know the 435i looks like a BMW, I'm not buying it.

smithf80 · 01-09-2015, 04:54 PM

"The bmw splits commands between a touch bad and a dial, which could lead to confusion about how to do what" is that a joke or.....

Also yes of course the BMW doesn't have that Lexus G-Force technology, because its a lexus marketing term. I'm pretty sure BMW does have that anyway, except they don't market it because they don't need to market how smart the car is and how sport oriented it is.

raqautle · 01-09-2015, 05:03 PM

I don't know what's worse, this video or my college papers

///M3Owner · 01-09-2015, 05:04 PM

I couldn't watch all of this. Her voice pisses me off.. And her arguments are garbage

pr0gi · 01-09-2015, 05:16 PM

the tail lights on this Lexus look so old, tired and boring

just look at 0:42

tony20009 · 01-09-2015, 05:17 PM

I suppose point by point comparisons such as the one in the OP inspire some consumers who wouldn't have otherwise considered the Lexus to do so. To that end, I guess the piece does what it's supposed to do.

I don't know just what share of consumers cull their "shortlist" of cars using that sort of analysis. My gut says that most $50K car buyers shop with their eyes first, perhaps also their egos when deciding what brands they'll at least consider, and then go "try them on," letting their asses and ears make the final decision.

Sure, most such consumers, particularly those buying int eh $50K-$60K range, are going to be sway-able by economic and ease of ownership considerations. I doubt many folks who in their hearts prefer the BMW would, for example choose a 435 over the Lexus for a $15K price premium, but for $5K or less, I suspect many would.

I know I would not pay $15K more for the 435, but up to $5K I would still consider the BMW, and probably buy it. Then again, I am so turned off by the gaping maw on that Lexus that it'd have to be offered to me for something in the low to mid-$30Ks for me to see it as an alternative, and at such a low price, I could get over the look of the grill. Indeed, I rather like some of the other styling touches on the Lexus, but grill just ruins it for me.

By the same token, I'm going to need to buy my youngest son a car come the end of this coming Summer. If he expresses a preference for the Lexus, I'd gladly buy it for him instead of a BMW similar to the ones I bought for his two older siblings. I don't mind spending less and getting what, for 99% of everything one needs to do, will be a perfectly fine car. I just won't do it to save a miniscule sum for a car I know I will drive for some 15 year or so, which is about how long I keep my daily drivers. I don't want to drive a car I think is butt ugly for that long.

All the best.

2M · 01-09-2015, 05:21 PM

If someone tells me this bs in person they are getting slapped in the face.

IEDEI · 01-09-2015, 05:24 PM

the F30 3-series and 4-series are pretty disappointing cars to drive....soft and plump....but at least they look nice. unlike the Lexus which looks like a parasite.

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PCR0303 First Lieutenant 145 Rep 340 Posts Drives: AW F32 Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Socal iTrader: (0)	Very "interesting" video. Serves little to no purpose because I doubt it will actually affect why I'd prefer RC to a 4er. Some things to note: Are the headlamps of the RC really LED? What is that 3 projector lighting upgrade that we see on the RC-F sometimes? How is the RC interior any sportier looking than the 4? Looks are subjective and I really don't like the look of the RC interior. However, I'll hand it to the Lexus for nice soft leather. I own a IS350 and a 428 and can already tell you the engine in the BMW is a lot better. So the powertrain comparison is inaccurate. Give it to the Lexus for the adaptive suspension already coming with the F-sport rather than being an add on. However, iDrive is way more intuitive than the Lexus Enform or whatever it's called. People have complained about the mouse thing. BMW also offers the HUD and Lexus doesn't. Otherwise everything else like the exterior is subjective. But hey if I were paid, I'd probably say the same shit. I'd use that money though for my BMW.
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01-09-2015, 04:25 PM	#115
qadhi79 Private First Class 14 Rep 112 Posts Drives: 2014 BMW M5 LCI (Space Gray) Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Qatar iTrader: (0)	She is giving the cost benefit lecture to a community where people spend a lot more to mod the 435i to look like M4 __________________ 2014 BMW F10 M5 LCI
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01-09-2015, 04:32 PM	#116
F30_M_Sport_Eurovan Private 3 Rep 53 Posts Drives: 2013 328i M Sport Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: United States iTrader: (0)	I think it really IS a value but I just can't get over the horrible design. At every glance, the front reminds me of the Predator alien's mouth. This is just a so frick' fugly, I can't overlook it and I would NEVER buy a car that looks like that. The back is also very poorly styled. WTF Lexus -- your design team needs to be fired from the top down!
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XclusiveM New Member 0 Rep 7 Posts Drives: E92 M3 White/Red Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Burbank, Ca iTrader: (0)	BMW for the win! It is really sad that Lexus would go this low to try to knock a competitor! I mean seriously look at both of these cars I don't understand how someone can find that Lexus to be attractive.....
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kv12 Second Lieutenant 86 Rep 227 Posts Drives: 540i E39, X2 F39, 330 G20 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Toronto iTrader: (0)	The way I see it is buy whichever car makes you feel good, and whichever one suits your lifestyle best! But in the end our car choices are influenced by the people around us, as always I try to pick whichever one I like best. After seeing that video, I'd get the 435i Coupe over the RC Coupe if I had the extra $10K thank you.
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WJSM5 Banned 117 Rep 292 Posts Drives: 17 M2 - 14 M5 Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: Philly iTrader: (0) Garage List 2014 F10 M5 [0.00] 2017 F87 M2 [0.00]	Thank you Lexus College for helping me determine that the 435i not only looks better but is worth the extra money over the RC 350...
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ticamihai2003 Private First Class 9 Rep 102 Posts Drives: MINI Cooper S, BMW 118d sport Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Romania iTrader: (0)	If I was a Lexus owner this commercial would make me feel like an easy woman and embarrassed of owning a Lexus
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01-09-2015, 04:39 PM	#122
F30_M_Sport_Eurovan Private 3 Rep 53 Posts Drives: 2013 328i M Sport Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: United States iTrader: (0)	Totally agree with rori zahr
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WilliCO Captain 98 Rep 900 Posts Drives: 2013 F10 535 xDrive MSport Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Denver iTrader: (0)	I believe that is supposed to be a sales training video, not really an ad. If you're a Lexus salesperson, it has exactly the data you need to position the RC350 against the 4. I plan to cross-shop the RC350 when I am in the market next, and I see nothing wrong with this video at all. __________________ *-Will* 2013 535i xDrive M-Sport \| 2005 545i Sport (Retired and missed) \| 2001 X5 3.0 Sport (Retired)
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Tito44 New Member 14 Rep 17 Posts Drives: 2015 BMW M235XI Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: New Jersey iTrader: (0)	Uggh.. I wanted a BMW, but now that I know the 435i looks like a BMW, I'm not buying it.
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pr0gi Second Lieutenant 98 Rep 270 Posts Drives: G05 40i, X3 M40i Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Plovdiv iTrader: (0)	the tail lights on this Lexus look so old, tired and boring just look at 0:42 __________________ Nothing's worse than regret.
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tony20009 Major General 1055 Rep 5,660 Posts Drives: BMW 335i - Coupe Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Washington, DC iTrader: (0)	I suppose point by point comparisons such as the one in the OP inspire some consumers who wouldn't have otherwise considered the Lexus to do so. To that end, I guess the piece does what it's supposed to do. I don't know just what share of consumers cull their "shortlist" of cars using that sort of analysis. My gut says that most $50K car buyers shop with their eyes first, perhaps also their egos when deciding what brands they'll at least consider, and then go "try them on," letting their asses and ears make the final decision. Sure, most such consumers, particularly those buying int eh $50K-$60K range, are going to be sway-able by economic and ease of ownership considerations. I doubt many folks who in their hearts prefer the BMW would, for example choose a 435 over the Lexus for a $15K price premium, but for $5K or less, I suspect many would. I know I would not pay $15K more for the 435, but up to $5K I would still consider the BMW, and probably buy it. Then again, I am so turned off by the gaping maw on that Lexus that it'd have to be offered to me for something in the low to mid-$30Ks for me to see it as an alternative, and at such a low price, I could get over the look of the grill. Indeed, I rather like some of the other styling touches on the Lexus, but grill just ruins it for me. By the same token, I'm going to need to buy my youngest son a car come the end of this coming Summer. If he expresses a preference for the Lexus, I'd gladly buy it for him instead of a BMW similar to the ones I bought for his two older siblings. I don't mind spending less and getting what, for 99% of everything one needs to do, will be a perfectly fine car. I just won't do it to save a miniscule sum for a car I know I will drive for some 15 year or so, which is about how long I keep my daily drivers. I don't want to drive a car I think is butt ugly for that long. All the best. __________________ Cheers, Tony ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ '07, e92 335i, *Sparkling Graphite, Coral Leather, Aluminum, 6-speed*
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