[teaston]

Originally Posted by SkyJawa

They most certainly haven't been tuning these to that level for years. They've only just cracked the ability to remap the F series......

They're probably talking about earlier versions of the N57 engine

[SkyJawa]

Originally Posted by teaston

They're probably talking about earlier versions of the N57 engine

Maybe but making those claims they are to customers is misleading IMHO. They were 286bhp not 313bhp - different engine codes.

[teaston]

Originally Posted by SkyJawa

Maybe but making those claims is misleading IMHO. They were 286bhp not 313bhp - different engine codes.

Maybe they mean the same percentage increase?

[SkyJawa]

Now you could be on to something there, but really they should be a little more clear.

To be fair to DMS, all the tuners do similar - not just them.

Edit - just to say I quoted 335d above but its a similar story for the 330d. Different factory power and engine codes. Just for clarity!

[SkyJawa]

I bet the OP never thought he was opening one of these when he started this thread

[Ian335xd]

I used Celtic Tuning and I was there to see the results on the Dyno.

My car was a E90 330d 2011 and power after was 335 Bhp and 475 ibft Torque
and the power was immense!

[jamal6008]

Originally Posted by SkyJawa

I bet the OP never thought he was opening one of these when he started this thread

LOL!!!

I am still waiting for the DMS guy to email me all the printouts etc...... The thing which makes me suspicious about this is that if this really is so good then why haven't they put this up on their website??? The F30 model is still not on their website and they only tell you about it when you email them.

[DaHollow]

Time and time again I read the craziest things in this threat.

I drive a 09/2013 F30 330d M sport with the M Performance Power Kit installed claiming 286hp and 600Nm of torque (before remap)

1) I did extensive testing against a standard 330d (0-100km/h, 80-180km/h etc) and the difference was MINIMAL at best (both sport automatic and test in normal, sport and sport+). When he was a bit faster on the launch I could not, I repeat NOT get closer. All this difference is in your head. A 330d deliveres a shitload of torque to begin with, so explain to me how you could feel a difference of 40Nm. Please tell.

2) I did 4 seperate dyno runs with respected companies in Belgium (one of who unlocked remaps on the F series). I never, I repeat NEVER got the claimed figures. Most out of the 3 respected was 276bhp and 590Nm. Lastly I went to a tuner with an optimistic dyno and got 315bhp and 640Nm. He was known for his crappy dyno.

3) I did a remap to 310bhp and 650Nm and tested again against the standard 330d and now I got a very visible difference (I destroyed him basicly).

So in reality the M PPK is a very expensive (If you don't have the M sport brakes) option with very minimal results on road use (could be better on tracks thanks to the intercooler).

I don't know what kind of crappy dyno's you guys have run on, but those numbers are way out of reality.

[DexGC]

4 days ago
Warmish day
Conservative Dyno dymanics rolling road
1400 miles on the car
Noticeable difference before and after

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Originally Posted by DaHollow

Time and time again I read the craziest things in this threat.

I drive a 09/2013 F30 330d M sport with the M Performance Power Kit installed claiming 286hp and 600Nm of torque (before remap)

1) I did extensive testing against a standard 330d (0-100km/h, 80-180km/h etc) and the difference was MINIMAL at best (both sport automatic and test in normal, sport and sport+). When he was a bit faster on the launch I could not, I repeat NOT get closer. All this difference is in your head. A 330d deliveres a shitload of torque to begin with, so explain to me how you could feel a difference of 40Nm. Please tell.

2) I did 4 seperate dyno runs with respected companies in Belgium (one of who unlocked remaps on the F series). I never, I repeat NEVER got the claimed figures. Most out of the 3 respected was 276bhp and 590Nm. Lastly I went to a tuner with an optimistic dyno and got 315bhp and 640Nm. He was known for his crappy dyno.

3) I did a remap to 310bhp and 650Nm and tested again against the standard 330d and now I got a very visible difference (I destroyed him basicly).

So in reality the M PPK is a very expensive (If you don't have the M sport brakes) option with very minimal results on road use (could be better on tracks thanks to the intercooler).

I don't know what kind of crappy dyno's you guys have run on, but those numbers are way out of reality.

As per what Dex has said, scroll down the thread for spreadsheet for data from the day.

Post 302.

http://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho...125282&page=14

[SkyJawa]

Sounds like it was fitted badly and there was a boost leak or other issues to be honest.

As mentioned the PPk did well in the dyno day coming out with respectable results. I absolutely feel a difference over the stock car. The midrange shove is way improved.

[Spoonhead]

Here's mine:

[tjlees]

Originally Posted by SkyJawa

Sounds like it was fitted badly and there was a boost leak or other issues to be honest.

As mentioned the PPk did well in the dyno day coming out with respectable results. I absolutely feel a difference over the stock car. The midrange shove is way improved.

Agreed. For example, the ACS box at last Saturday's Surrey rolling road wasn't really returning anything like the result the other boxes were returning. We suspect it's a bad fitting.

For me the PPK was the surprise, and the ecotune result confirmed what others have recommended. Even if the rolling road was wrong on the absolute figures, it was still significantly different from the stock cars that were tested at the same time.

Reproduced from elsewhere

Green (MG60) is Std
Red (M5ET) is a bluespark generic £150 tuning box
Pink (HJ64) is Steinbauer box
Other Green (TR08) is DMS remap
Blue (WJ14) is Ecotune stage 1 remap

[DexGC]

PPK actually costs between 1000-1200 quid if you have M Sport plus not 1600 as the table shows

In case there were any bang for buck calcs going on

[tjlees]

Originally Posted by Dex78

PPK actually costs between 1000-1200 quid if you have M Sport plus not 1600 as the table shows

In case there were any bang for buck calcs going on

yes - just quoted from the conversations

[SkyJawa]

And let's also not forget, warranty is completely unaffected.

[tjlees]

Originally Posted by SkyJawa

And let's also not forget, warranty is completely unaffected.

As is the ACS tuning box.

[SkyJawa]

Originally Posted by tjlees

As is the ACS tuning box.

Indeed though nearly 3x the price!