[JustChris]

Looks a fantastic spec and money off seems decent. Never used SRAM as always been a Shimano guy but as the etap it will be very very good.

Great all round cassette gearing and carbon rims too.

Can’t see too many drawbacks

[dazzapb]

Originally Posted by JustChris

Looks a fantastic spec and money off seems decent. Never used SRAM as always been a Shimano guy but as the etap it will be very very good.

Great all round cassette gearing and carbon rims too.

Can’t see too many drawbacks

Thanks Chris. Seems like my local bike store giant in twickenham would do the deal but combined with cycle vouchers they wouldn’t offer the 20% off just 10%. Still good but not sure. It’s just I have a bike that’s half decent already - but we all need new toys now and again

I called the store in Glasgow who have the stock and they aren’t offering any discount.
Will keep persisting and see how I get on. Ordered the voucher from my work scheme which takes 2-3 weeks so will see.

[RhysoTDI]

Not sure how old your Canyon is but why not put the money towards a set of new wheels and tubeless setup??

I had a 2016 Defy and was tempted by a new one but ended up with an Orbea. Little more aggressive but to me it’s a much faster bike. All depends what you want from the new bike i guess

[Danj94]

Originally Posted by dazzapb

Hi guys any comments on this bike?
My cycle to work allows for 4k so might go for it.
I have the di2 ulterga on my current canyon and this has sram etap I note it’s just been replaced though with a new revision this doesn’t have.
I want to make switch to tubeless and this rims are hookless too. Nice to see 1k wheels on a bike in this bracket. Usually some manufacturers throw on cheap stuff.

I can ask my local giant store if I can be sized for it.

https://www.giant-bicycles.com/gb/de...ber=2110066105

That Giant is lovely and at that price seems a lot of bike for the money.

I have a 2018 Canyon Aeroad CF SLX 9.0 (Carbon 58mm wheels, dura ace 9100 mechanical, carbon cockpit) and this cost me £4450 back in 2018 only thing I am really wanting to change for is 28mm tyres and disc brakes... I thought about changing it but I cant find anything which is as good for the same money.. The only thing which does tickle my fancy a little is the Cannondale systemsix

https://www.sigmasports.com/item/Can...Bike-2022/VHWL

im not too keen on that colour scheme but if I can find it on in black available on the scheme I could be tempted.

[TouringPleb]

Can anyone recommend some good bib shorts?

I need new ones (probably 2-3 pairs) and can’t believe the price of them now. I’m seeing £175-250 which is way more than I paid last time (granted 3 or 4 years ago).

I’m comfortable paying around 120ish for a good pair.

Thanks.

[RhysoTDI]

Originally Posted by TouringPleb

Can anyone recommend some good bib shorts?

I need new ones (probably 2-3 pairs) and can’t believe the price of them now. I’m seeing £175-250 which is way more than I paid last time (granted 3 or 4 years ago).

I’m comfortable paying around 120ish for a good pair.

Thanks.

I have 3 sets of Endura FS260’s. Mainly use them for turbo sessions but have used them lately on 50 milers and can’t fault them

https://www.wiggle.co.uk/endura-fs26...B&gclsrc=aw.ds

[Danj94]

castelli bibs are good quality and seem well priced..

https://www.sigmasports.com/search?s...li%20bibshorts

[Bianchi Dave]

Originally Posted by TouringPleb

Can anyone recommend some good bib shorts?

I need new ones (probably 2-3 pairs) and can’t believe the price of them now. I’m seeing £175-250 which is way more than I paid last time (granted 3 or 4 years ago).

I’m comfortable paying around 120ish for a good pair.

Thanks.

Castelli or Le Col for me. Its all about the pad, so the pro level Le Col (gel pad) and Endurance or Free Aero Race Castelli (Progetto X2 pad or whatever the most recent one is).

Nearly always deals of some sort on the go, particularly with Le Col, who do the £50 Strava vouchers for the challenges - well worth doing as they can be used on sale items too. They recently changed the minimum spend, was £100, now £125 but still good value.

For Castelli, worth checking the usual sites, so Chain reaction / Wiggle, Probikekit, Sigma, Merlin etc.

Do you know your size?

[theabbot]

Try https://www.sportpursuit.com/easter as well

[Bianchi Dave]

Castelli Free Aero bibs are £85 to £99 on Merlin just now....

[TouringPleb]

Originally Posted by Bianchi Dave

Castelli or Le Col for me. Its all about the pad, so the pro level Le Col (gel pad) and Endurance or Free Aero Race Castelli (Progetto X2 pad or whatever the most recent one is).

Nearly always deals of some sort on the go, particularly with Le Col, who do the £50 Strava vouchers for the challenges - well worth doing as they can be used on sale items too. They recently changed the minimum spend, was £100, now £125 but still good value.

For Castelli, worth checking the usual sites, so Chain reaction / Wiggle, Probikekit, Sigma, Merlin etc.

Do you know your size?

I’m 6ft and 96kg so I’m guessing large although most cycling gear comes up very small so I’m probably XXL

[TouringPleb]

Thanks for all the tips guys.

[dazzapb]

Originally Posted by RhysoTDI

Not sure how old your Canyon is but why not put the money towards a set of new wheels and tubeless setup??

I had a 2016 Defy and was tempted by a new one but ended up with an Orbea. Little more aggressive but to me it’s a much faster bike. All depends what you want from the new bike i guess

I was thinking that too, I have a 2014 Ultimate CF SLX - which does have decent wheels, I just think it was time for a new bike as it was getting a little old but still great. I was also wanting to move to discs and have clearance for larger tyres on the commute. Not sure if I want to sell the canyon now

[dazzapb]

Originally Posted by Danj94

That Giant is lovely and at that price seems a lot of bike for the money.

I have a 2018 Canyon Aeroad CF SLX 9.0 (Carbon 58mm wheels, dura ace 9100 mechanical, carbon cockpit) and this cost me £4450 back in 2018 only thing I am really wanting to change for is 28mm tyres and disc brakes... I thought about changing it but I cant find anything which is as good for the same money.. The only thing which does tickle my fancy a little is the Cannondale systemsix

https://www.sigmasports.com/item/Can...Bike-2022/VHWL

im not too keen on that colour scheme but if I can find it on in black available on the scheme I could be tempted.

snap pretty much my dilema too! but mine is a older 2014 Ulitmate cf SLX with half decent MAVIC KSYRIUM SLR wheels. Its a bit like triggers broome with so many parts changed including di2 battery, bottom brackets rear and front mech. I did take the opportunity to put dura ace bits on too, but just fitted yet another 105 cassette and chain.

Its pretty much my all weathers commute (road) and lesuire bike so ready for a change all the same.

Looking at the market is shocking but I have to accept 9 years has passed for me, I also got 15% due to a pricing error - something like 3500 in total. During the begining of covid there was a crazy cervelo dura ace di2 2021 r5 from 10k to 5k and was tempted, I went into sigma sports in Kingston and they'd sold 20 odd in a week and were all gone

Now I can use the cycle scheme for 4k also is a nice help really was impressed with tubeless ride and discs (exalith helps on the AL rims but discs in the wet are the business)

I had a cannondale before that and loved it (the one you posted looks great)

I placed a deposit today (can get it for 4600) with 4k being in vouchers. Just need to order the vouchers now.

My only dilemma is the sizing, I tried my LBS for Defy frames today and I am on the cusp between M and M/L at 5"10. Both felt ok

my canyon is M - thats a regular 56 frame AFIAK but Giant are tricky I understand due to sloping frame etc.

[dazzapb]

Originally Posted by TouringPleb

Can anyone recommend some good bib shorts?

I need new ones (probably 2-3 pairs) and can’t believe the price of them now. I’m seeing £175-250 which is way more than I paid last time (granted 3 or 4 years ago).

I’m comfortable paying around 120ish for a good pair.

Thanks.

Like the others have noted, I have used Castelli - they are excellent, more pricey but worth it IMO.

I just bought yet more pairs of Entrata 2 from sigma mostly used for every day cycling to work.

Im 5"10 and 14st 12 always XXL in everything they do! mostly the lenght is the issue as they come up so small

[Hugrov]

The new steed. Parted company with my previous Specialized Roubaix for this Cervelo Caledonia, it’s very nice, am looking forward to putting some miles on it 👍

[JR1664]

Originally Posted by RhysoTDI

I have 3 sets of Endura FS260’s. Mainly use them for turbo sessions but have used them lately on 50 milers and can’t fault them

https://www.wiggle.co.uk/endura-fs26...B&gclsrc=aw.ds

Good price . DHB Aerons are also excellent value and are currently £40 a pop.

[dazzapb]

Originally Posted by Hugrov

The new steed. Parted company with my previous Specialized Roubaix for this Cervelo Caledonia, it’s very nice, am looking forward to putting some miles on it 👍

that is lovely enjoy

[dazzapb]

hi guys placed order for defy advanced pro 2021 waiting for voucher to clear they have both m & m/l in stock currently set on M.

my canyon is a M(56) but the giant is M (54 but effective 56 so i believe)

i test rode a defy m and ml but with jeans and trainers couldn’t tell much diff.

i do like my current canyon looking at this which bike looks closer to the canyon - m or m/l?

seat tube ct looks way off but i believe the giant is compact so can’t be relied on

thanks

https://geometrygeeks.bike/compare/g...slx-2014-m-56/

[Bianchi Dave]

Originally Posted by dazzapb

hi guys placed order for defy advanced pro 2021 waiting for voucher to clear they have both m & m/l in stock currently set on M.

my canyon is a M(56) but the giant is M (54 but effective 56 so i believe)

i test rode a defy m and ml but with jeans and trainers couldn’t tell much diff.

i do like my current canyon looking at this which bike looks closer to the canyon - m or m/l?

seat tube ct looks way off but i believe the giant is compact so can’t be relied on

thanks

https://geometrygeeks.bike/compare/g...slx-2014-m-56/

Normally when between sizes its best to go with the smaller frame - a smaller frame can be made bigger through changing stem length, bar reach, saddle setback etc, whereas its harder to make a bigger bike smaller.

In this instance though you're changing frame type, from road 'racing' to road 'endurance.'

Endurance frames are shorter, with a higher head tube, thus placing the rider in a more upright position.

I think you need to decide what you're trying to achieve, how many spacers you want under the stem etc.

Reach and stack are the two most important measurements. As the Canyon is a race geometry, its reach is longter than either of the Defy sizes (2mm in case of M/L and 6mm in case of M).

Much bigger differences between the stack measurements, with the M Defy being 7mm higher and the M/L 26mm higher, which is a lot.

If you're running nearly 26mm of spacers under your Canyon stem, I'd go with the M/L, as you'd be able to run it almost slammed (when the stem is as low as possible). Doubt you'd notice the 2mm difference in reach either.

It depends what you want to achieve with your riding position. Can you post a pic of your Canyon to show how its set up? Are you happy with the position?

[dazzapb]

Originally Posted by Bianchi Dave

Normally when between sizes its best to go with the smaller frame - a smaller frame can be made bigger through changing stem length, bar reach, saddle setback etc, whereas its harder to make a bigger bike smaller.

In this instance though you're changing frame type, from road 'racing' to road 'endurance.'

Endurance frames are shorter, with a higher head tube, thus placing the rider in a more upright position.

I think you need to decide what you're trying to achieve, how many spacers you want under the stem etc.

Reach and stack are the two most important measurements. As the Canyon is a race geometry, its reach is longter than either of the Defy sizes (2mm in case of M/L and 6mm in case of M).

Much bigger differences between the stack measurements, with the M Defy being 7mm higher and the M/L 26mm higher, which is a lot.

If you're running nearly 26mm of spacers under your Canyon stem, I'd go with the M/L, as you'd be able to run it almost slammed (when the stem is as low as possible). Doubt you'd notice the 2mm difference in reach either.

It depends what you want to achieve with your riding position. Can you post a pic of your Canyon to show how its set up? Are you happy with the position?

Thanks Dave very helpful
On the canyon you are correct it’s pro race geo the only change I’ve made to this was to invert the stem (I’m sure I did to increase the stack perhaps as its angled upwards) it’s defo not default. Canyon v13 stem allows for plus or minus 6 degrees it seems
I think my body is odd I’m 5”10 with short legs I wear 30” jeans and therefore quite long torso and arms.

Indeed the defy is endurance too so I have to appreciate the frame diff. I wouldn’t complain if it was a little more relaxed but I do like the canyon setup it feels good to me.

I notice under this pic stolen from eBay that there are plenty of spacers on the M/L version of the defy to play with to lessen the stack? Perhaps it can be inverted too.

I could also get a longer stem for the medium too I guess.

On my limited test ride I didn’t have any issues with the ML apart from the stand over height was a little close for comfort.

Will get a pic of the canyon uploaded. Cheers

[dazzapb]

Canyon here