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There's nothing that says you HAVE to check every option box. If you want toys, you have to pay. |
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02-17-2013, 10:06 AM | #178 |
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Invoice and toys
I agree with you. That being said, options like Xenons, 18 inch performance tires (need sport or other line), adjustable lumbar support (must buy premium package), not limiting color choice to white and black (paint), and heated seats (need cold), are hardly toys. Indeed, dispensing with options like with nav (and thus getting a lousy looking lcd display), rear camera, smart phone integration, and other toys can save a few thousand dollars.
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02-18-2013, 12:06 PM | #180 | |
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Now I'll bust out $45k cash and ask for a 3 wagon with navigation and get laughed outta the building. |
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02-18-2013, 03:39 PM | #181 |
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Two to three grand's worth of personification happened...
Not content to simply deliver a fresh take on the timeless, classic 3 series, BMW expanded the "personality" of the 3 in a completely different way; "Lines". Lines satisfy owners of various stripes by offering exclusive details that instantly identify the vehicles "mood." |
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This has probably been posted elsewhere but for those mainly following wagon news, some decent confirmation - look forward to NYIAS:
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03-21-2013, 01:40 PM | #184 |
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Well, hurry up and launch it already for the US Market....
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03-21-2013, 01:41 PM | #185 |
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03-21-2013, 02:55 PM | #187 |
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They just made that live in the last hour on the site... Sheesh!
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The whole thing is wrong. No RWD, no manual. Stratospheric pricing. Average American BMW customers are rolling their eyes at me hard, but for us po-folk enthusiasts who can't afford an M3 AND a stupid SUV... damn this could have hit the spot.
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03-22-2013, 12:32 PM | #194 |
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It's not perfect, but it's much better than the alternatives, IMO.
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03-22-2013, 02:49 PM | #195 |
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Are you really surprised?
I share the general frustration that is being expressed about the prices of the F31. But, many in this thread sound indignent and surprised by BMWs pricing strategy. There are two important considerations. First, the F31 is priced exactly was where one would expect based on the F30. My configured M-Sport with Premium, Tech, HK, Cold Weather and Lighting is 54,320, compared to $52,520 for the sedan. This price premium is in line with that paid in Europe and other markets, and similar to that for the E90. So, if you want to complain about the price of a well-equipped 3 series, fine, but don't single out the wagon. Second, is the matter of comparables. The only real alternative in the market today is the Allroad. If you spec out that car, and add $2000 for the value of the 4 year service, the BMW is certainly competitive, especially when you consider that BMW dealers are more likely to discount off MSRP. Of course, you can start making comparisons to SUVs, but, I think that is like apples and oranges. Indeed, mid-size SUVs are priced more aggressively. This is to be expected given that every US, Japanese, Korean, European and soon to be Chinese has a good product in this category. It is their bread and butter, and the competition is fierce. But there is reason many of us will pay the premium for a F31 over a SUV: quality, utility, and we love to drive cars, not pilot a crossover or truck. So, if you want to blame someone for the fact that we are paying the price for our tastes, blame the consumer who does not share our preference, not the manufacturer who is simply responding to the revealed tastes in market place.
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