[xuxxed]

I'm planning on installing MPPSK myself since the dealer's quote was out of my budget. Does anyone have sound clips of the exhaust without the tune that comes with it? I've been searching for a video but haven't had any luck.

[Skyhigh]

I don't think you will find any clips of that. It will sound boring (compared to the real thing). But of course you can get the "sound effects" through an external, thrid-party tune.

Probably not a concern where you are, just be aware that the exhaust without the software, has no type-approval for your vehicle. In most of Europe you would have issues passing technical inspection.

[p0p]

not sure if it has the tune
https://www.shopbmwusa.com/PRODUCT/5...-AND-SOUND-KIT

[Skyhigh]

Wouldn't make sense to advertise with just half of the product installed.... of course it would have the tune too. The exhaust is not offered by BMW separately.

[p0p]

I really don't care what others put on their cars. But BM3PSK or a MHDPSK would be kinda cool I guess.

Part Number: 18-30-2-406-953 You will also need the tips.

[charlie fairmont]

I think you can buy at least part of the exhaust from the mppsk kit without the tune. Makes sense from a replacement standpoint (like if I got rear-ended).

https://www.getbmwparts.com/oem-part...MtMGwtbDYtZ2Fz

If you search harder than I did, I wouldn't be surprised if the midpipe sections are available, too. but if not, that would be the easiest part for an exhaust shop to build

[Skyhigh]

Yes, you can buy it as a spare part. But legally it is not type-approved for installation on its own. Just FYI.

[eff32fl]

If you're going to buy just the exhaust why not just get the whole kit with the tune? I've yet to hear an aftermarket tune that sounded as good as the MPPSK tune. Although the MPPSK tune would become your stock map if you ever flashed an aftermarket tune.

[toxik]

they sell the engine bay mppsk badge as a part you can purchase as well. the tune requires a FSC key that gets uploaded to bmw servers and gets tied to your vin. only a dealer can do this, and it comes in an envelope with the mppsk kit. this is why getting the mppsk tune is virtually impossible if you buy the exhaust as just parts to install yourself.

[Samuaw]

Originally Posted by eff32fl

If you're going to buy just the exhaust why not just get the whole kit with the tune? I've yet to hear an aftermarket tune that sounded as good as the MPPSK tune. Although the MPPSK tune would become your stock map if you ever flashed an aftermarket tune.

Are you talking about the full rev range including the MPPSK burble?

If so, i agree- the MPPSK burble cannot be replicated with any after market tune as it is just so dynamic with how the car is driven and isn't as simple as just burble strength and duration as per BM3 criteria

As for the rest of the sound range, i didn't really notice a difference from Stage 1 BM3, to MPPSK. so i assume Stock would also sound the same up until the burble/over run part.

[Skyhigh]

The MPPSK burble / gunshots are available via MHD. I have not noticed any difference between the stock MPPSK and MHD's MPPSK settings. And to me - those burbles/gunshots are extremely well balanced, never had the need to have more of either.

[Samuaw]

Originally Posted by Skyhigh

The MPPSK burble / gunshots are available via MHD. I have not noticed any difference between the stock MPPSK and MHD's MPPSK settings. And to me - those burbles/gunshots are extremely well balanced, never had the need to have more of either.

If that’s the case…. I need to give MHD a go!
So if anything that means good news for OP, that he could get the exhaust and MHD and he has peiced together the MPPSK with more power for less than the original whole kit

[eff32fl]

Originally Posted by Skyhigh

The MPPSK burble / gunshots are available via MHD. I have not noticed any difference between the stock MPPSK and MHD's MPPSK settings. And to me - those burbles/gunshots are extremely well balanced, never had the need to have more of either.

I can't say for sure but there was a thread on here about the MHD MPPSK map and people were saying it doesn't sound like the MPPSK tune. I haven't used the MHD MPPSK tune myself so I can't speak first hand though.

In general I'm referring to the mild rumbles from overrun that varies based on throttle input not the loud burbles or bangs. That low rumble is bliss.

[andyb313]

Originally Posted by eff32fl

I can't say for sure but there was a thread on here about the MHD MPPSK map and people were saying it doesn't sound like the MPPSK tune. I haven't used the MHD MPPSK tune myself so I can't speak first hand though.

In general I'm referring to the mild rumbles from overrun that varies based on throttle input not the loud burbles or bangs. That low rumble is bliss.

Is was a little bit disappointed with burbles going from MPPSK to mhd stage 1 , they are fine on mhd but there's just something not the same, maybe less pops etc.

Now I'm stage 2 with a 200 cel cat with xhp and I have to say I'm very happy with how it sounds with burbles set to 1 and OEM aggressiveness

[DrinCW]

I installed the MPPSK exhaust without the tune.

It sounds better than the stock exhaust and you still get some pops and burbles in sport mode. Not sure how it compares to someone with the MPPSK tune.

Sorry, I don't have any videos.

[E90lova]

Originally Posted by DrinCW

I installed the MPPSK exhaust without the tune.

It sounds better than the stock exhaust and you still get some pops and burbles in sport mode. Not sure how it compares to someone with the MPPSK tune.

Sorry, I don't have any videos.

Any increase in go?

[DrinCW]

Originally Posted by E90lova

Any increase in go?

In theory it should be faster with a less restrictive exhaust (when in sport). It did feel quicker, but that could just be due to the louder exhaust. Either way, totally worth the upgrade.

[Grassimo]

Originally Posted by Skyhigh

The MPPSK burble / gunshots are available via MHD. I have not noticed any difference between the stock MPPSK and MHD's MPPSK settings. And to me - those burbles/gunshots are extremely well balanced, never had the need to have more of either.

I'm getting just the exhaust installed for a good price from my euro shop. If I add the MHD tune I'd get the same as MPPSK with power and sound? And can I lower the gunshots only because I prefer the burbles.

Also does it void my warranty or can I just put it stock before servicing? I got 3 years left of maintenance and warranty on my 2019 440i

[Grassimo]

Originally Posted by eff32fl

I can't say for sure but there was a thread on here about the MHD MPPSK map and people were saying it doesn't sound like the MPPSK tune. I haven't used the MHD MPPSK tune myself so I can't speak first hand though.

In general I'm referring to the mild rumbles from overrun that varies based on throttle input not the loud burbles or bangs. That low rumble is bliss.

Am I able to install the exhaust at my garage and then get the tune at BMW? Or it's only possible to order from factory when first built?

[Grassimo]

Originally Posted by andyb313

Is was a little bit disappointed with burbles going from MPPSK to mhd stage 1 , they are fine on mhd but there's just something not the same, maybe less pops etc.

Now I'm stage 2 with a 200 cel cat with xhp and I have to say I'm very happy with how it sounds with burbles set to 1 and OEM aggressiveness

I prefer less pops and more burbles, are the burbles still good or more than stock exhaust?

[Skyhigh]

Originally Posted by Grassimo

I'm getting just the exhaust installed for a good price from my euro shop. If I add the MHD tune I'd get the same as MPPSK with power and sound? And can I lower the gunshots only because I prefer the burbles.

Also does it void my warranty or can I just put it stock before servicing? I got 3 years left of maintenance and warranty on my 2019 440i

If you flash MHD - you loose your factory warranty. Even if you flash back to stock, the BMW tester will show that the DME has been tempered with.

If you flash Stage 0+ from MHD you will technically complete the MPPSK, but you will not be able to make changes to burbles or anything else. For that you will need to flash Stage 1 or higher, which are different maps than MPPSK.

[Skyhigh]

Originally Posted by Grassimo

Am I able to install the exhaust at my garage and then get the tune at BMW? Or it's only possible to order from factory when first built?

It is actually never from factory but always retrofitted at or after delivery. However most BMW dealership would not flash the tune for you in isolation. They need an activation code which comes in an envelope with the exhaust. Even if you bring it to them, most would refuse to do it as they have no control over the physical installation and would not like to sign off and take the responsibility for the entire product / installation.

Clean way is to order MPPSK at a dealership and have it all installed there. You are not saving much by doing the installation yourself anyway.