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      12-19-2018, 01:47 PM   #2003
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Is this a correct assumption?
Yep. The MY2020 M4 should start March 2019.
Thanks. I figured but just wanted confirmation
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      12-20-2018, 01:39 PM   #2004
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When do we get the 330e? I know it's out this summer, but I've read we don't get it stateside until next summer.
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      01-04-2019, 06:01 PM   #2005
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2019 F40 1 Series info?

Does anyone have updated engine specs, or other info, on the 2019 F40 1 series?
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      01-04-2019, 06:55 PM   #2006
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Details are scarce but much of it is "read between the lines" stuff based on existing BMW models and insider information from this thread.

Here's what to expect so far:
  • 5-door body style
  • 07/19 SOP
  • Transverse (UKL) platform
  • M135i xDrive model shares (300 HP) transverse B48 with X2 M35i; xDrive only, sport automatic only; virtually the "across the pond" version of the F44 M235i Gran Coupe.
  • M-Sport model equipped with its own bodywork, [non-adaptive] suspension, brakes, steering rack, and 18" wheels.
  • Sports seats standard, M-Sport seats optional
  • Most configurable features that exist on the G20 will also be available/configurable on the F40 (sans RWD).
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      01-05-2019, 03:29 AM   #2007
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I agree with all of that and probably the other engine versions will mirror what is currently available in all of the other mini platform cars, B38 and B48 variants and I'd expect for Europe B37 and B47. Unsure if we'll get the diesels here. Low end ones will come in FWD but the M35i one and maybe the hot diesel will be 4wd only.

I will be most interested to see if it gets the Mini Countryman E Hybrid system with the electric engine at the back and the petrol motor driving the front wheels only. I also hope that drivetrain comes to the X1, X2 and all other mini platform cars.
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      01-05-2019, 06:41 AM   #2008
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Sorry to look like an idiot, but im new on here, what does TU mean next to engines?
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Sorry to look like an idiot, but im new on here, what does TU mean next to engines?
TÜ - Technische Überarbeitung - Technical Revision, sort of like a version number for the engine to mark it has received technical updates to it's operation.
For a software you'd see "version 1.2", here it's B58TÜ(1), N63TÜ3, etc.

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Details are scarce but much of it is "read between the lines" stuff based on existing BMW models and insider information from this thread.
Thanks for the info. My dealer told me a hybrid would possibly be available 6 months after launch, but there seems to be debate as to whether we will get a hybrid 1 series
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Does anyone have updated engine specs, or other info, on the 2019 F40 1 series?
I can tell you some secret info: it will be NOTHING like a Ferrari F40.
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When do we get the 330e? I know it's out this summer, but I've read we don't get it stateside until next summer.
6 months to a year after its brethren (i/d).
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That said, there is mention of the next 2 Series in the OP if you read the updates in the latter half of the post. That is, the next 2 Series model codes are G42/G43. While the next 4 Series may not be mentioned specifically, it is known that the next 4 Series is the G22/G23/G26.
Gotta love BMW's numbering system. The 2 series is G4x and the 4 series is G2x.
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      01-14-2019, 11:18 PM   #2014
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Gotta love BMW's numbering system. The 2 series is G4x and the 4 series is G2x.
What annoys me too is that the F30 is 3 series which makes sense but then the G30 is the 5 and G20 is the 3 series. Arghhhhh
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Gotta love BMW's numbering system. The 2 series is G[COLOR="Red"]4[/COLOR]x and the 4 series is G[COLOR="red"]2[/COLOR]x.
What annoys me too is that the F30 is 3 series which makes sense but then the G30 is the 5 and G20 is the 3 series. Arghhhhh
Lol prolly why they are meant for internal use... just us crazies pay attention to the chassis codes
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When are the new generation M440I's suppose to be coming out? My lease is up in June and I'm really not sure what to do.. Been leaning towards the X4M40I but I really liked the gran coupe, its just completely under valued now
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When are the new generation M440I's suppose to be coming out? My lease is up in June and I'm really not sure what to do.. Been leaning towards the X4M40I but I really liked the gran coupe, its just completely under valued now
Per the OP, the F36 ends 6/21 which means the G26 should start 7/21. So, you'll have another two years to wait after your lease is up.
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Per the OP, the F36 ends 6/21 which means the G26 should start 7/21. So, you'll have another two years to wait after your lease is up.
Sad news unfortunately Getting another Gran Coupe just doesn't make sense right now as it under-teched and underpowered in comparison to the new 3 series or X4. If you spec a 440I Gran Coupe to match the X4 M40I, they are similarly priced with the X4 having a AWD advantage along with better exhaust sound, more power, newer technology etc..
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Per the OP, the F36 ends 6/21 which means the G26 should start 7/21. So, you'll have another two years to wait after your lease is up.
Sad news unfortunately Getting another Gran Coupe just doesn't make sense right now as it under-teched and underpowered in comparison to the new 3 series or X4. If you spec a 440I Gran Coupe to match the X4 M40I, they are similarly priced with the X4 having a AWD advantage along with better exhaust sound, more power, newer technology etc..
You are actually in a good spot from some points of view..
You can get the 2019 x4 M40i in the summer, lease for 3 years then make a decision on suv vs gran coupe from the position of ownership experience in the suv... also will time out nicely year 2 of the new gran coupe and lease rates plus any random issues will have settled down from launch.
You may also be able to time out an order and extend your lease to get a 2020 M40i which I believe potentially will get the upgrade to the 382 hp motor from the m340
If you definitely want the gran coupe then just add mppsk port installed which matches the current 355hp M40i for power and exhaust in sport mode is dare I say a bit better than the M40i. Plus rebates on the 4 series should balance
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Finally a new update after a long break. Like I mentioned before, good info is getting more difficult to collect.
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Finally a new update after a long break. Like I mentioned before, good info is getting more difficult to collect.
Thanks as always, in your crystal ball.... Do you see options for matching diameter wheels on the M3? Or is staggered front/rear sizes the only way the car will be setup from the factory?
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Finally a new update after a long break. Like I mentioned before, good info is getting more difficult to collect.
Thanks for the update, is the 20d going to have a power gain in a near future?
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Build details for G80 M3 (not all of this is new, but I'm listing all info here for better readability)
  • Starts production in 2020 (more likely later in the year).
  • Three performance levels: 444hp (Pure), 475hp ("base"), and 500hp (Competition).
  • Some versions will have RWD, others xDrive; both manual and automatic transmissions will be available. The reports that it will be Pure+manual+RWD, base+auto+xDrive, and Competition+auto+xDrive seem plausible but I don't yet want to claim that no other combos will be available.
  • Pure and base will have 18" front and 19" rear wheels; Competition will have 19"/20" as standard (optional on the other models).
  • Standard equipment for all models will include M diff, adaptive suspension, M seats, Live dashboard.
  • Optional equipment will be pretty much the same as the regular G20, with the notable additions of carbon ceramic brakes (possibly M3 Competition only) and of course Merino leather.
Nice update. 2021 G80 M3 base xDrive for me.
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Finally a new update after a long break. Like I mentioned before, good info is getting more difficult to collect.
I have received confirmation that the G30 530e will finally receive the xDrive version with MY 2020, SOP 07/19 in Europe (has only been available in USA until now).

I believe the reason for the xDrive version not being available in Europe is that the RWD version is 49g CO2/km rated but the xDrive version is 52 CO2/km, hence missing the vital 50 mark which just wont work in EU due to tax reasons.

One way to reduce these emission lower than 50 is to upgrade the batteries. I'm guessing here but could the reason for the xDrive finally being available in EU as MY2020 that they are upgrading the battery?

The upcoming X5 45e will have a range of 80 km and the upcoming 330e a range of 60km. The current 530e's 45km will hence be lower than even the 3 series.

Have you heard of a battery upgrade for the MY2020 530e?

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