[A15X]

Originally Posted by sahajesh

You're an Apple shill as your username is the iPad Pro processor name in 3 years time

A lot will depend on usage etc of course and the comparison between 7 and XS Max isn't valid.

They're great phones though, but I'll stick with my 8+ for at least a year longer.

In what respect is my comparison not valid?

[sahajesh]

Originally Posted by A15X

In what respect is my comparison not valid?

Max is a far bigger phone compared to a standard 7 and I would expect your usage of work and personal phones would differ.

[A15X]

Originally Posted by sahajesh

Max is a far bigger phone compared to a standard 7 and I would expect your usage of work and personal phones would differ.

My max replaced a personal 7 which would require a charge at the end of each day so I had something to compare it to and wife replaced her 7 with an XS and has noticed the battery life is much better between the two.

[teaston]

Originally Posted by sahajesh

Time to switch brands and OS then - they won't get slimmer.

Don't be fooled by claims of better battery life either - the higher-res screens are more power hungry so they are really at best keeping up with the battery life of older models, which in some ways is still an achievement.

Do be prepared to accept in some ways a worse UI due to the loss of the home button with a consequent reliance on gestures instead. Face ID will get an upgrade in 2019 so if you don't swing to Android, wait till the 2019 models.

My XS battery life is way better than the 7! On a non work day it still has 70-80% battery left, compared to less than half that on the 7!

[Grant_7]

Re battery life, I've seen a massive improvement in going from iPhone 6S (that had not long had a replacement battery) to iPhone Xs.

Phone charged overnight until 06:00 each morning.

By 20:00 each evening:
iPhone 6S = <10% battery charge remaining.
iPhone Xs = 35-45% battery charge remaining.

It really is much, much better.

[teaston]

Originally Posted by Grant_7

Re battery life, I've seen a massive improvement in going from iPhone 6S (that had not long had a replacement battery) to iPhone Xs.

Phone charged overnight until 06:00 each morning.

By 20:00 each evening:
iPhone 6S = <10% battery charge remaining.
iPhone Xs = 35-45% battery charge remaining.

It really is much, much better.

Similar difference to me coming from a 7 then.

[ciscopete822]

Apple should have been raped for giving 5W charger in the box tho! Agreed , battery life is better now as I have XsMax as daily for next 2 months ffs... :P

[MashinBenzin]

Originally Posted by teaston

Similar difference to me coming from a 7 then.

One thing with this, is that it's not purely about handset advantages but also battery age. My IP7 is reporting that the battery is at 89% of the capacity it had when new. A heavily used one may have deteriorated more.

Doesn't ultimately mean much as you still get the increased performance of the new handset/battery.

[Grant_7]

From my post Rich, I did make the point that I'd recently had a new battery in my 6S, and was at something like 98% capacity, so it is a pretty good comparison IMO.

[MashinBenzin]

Originally Posted by Grant_7

From my post Rich, I did make the point that I'd recently had a new battery in my 6S, and was at something like 98% capacity, so it is a pretty good comparison IMO.

Sorry Grant, completely missed that sentence! Impressive gains then.

[teaston]

Originally Posted by MashinBenzin

One thing with this, is that it's not purely about handset advantages but also battery age. My IP7 is reporting that the battery is at 89% of the capacity it had when new. A heavily used one may have deteriorated more.

Doesn't ultimately mean much as you still get the increased performance of the new handset/battery.

My 7 was on 93% capacity, yet it gave around 50% of the battery life of the XS.

[Broncho]

I’ve literally just picked up my XR, I was out of contract on my 7 back in the summer and wanted another 128gb but there weren’t any, they were 64gb which isn’t enough or 256gb which I’d never use so jumped on the XR as you can get 128gb.

It’s a lovely thing as you’d expect, the screen is amazing etc etc but it’s just a bit too big being honest. I found the standard 7 to be the perfect size but like everything else I’ll probably get used to it.

[teaston]

Originally Posted by Broncho

I’ve literally just picked up my XR, I was out of contract on my 7 back in the summer and wanted another 128gb but there weren’t any, they were 64gb which isn’t enough or 256gb which I’d never use so jumped on the XR as you can get 128gb.

It’s a lovely thing as you’d expect, the screen is amazing etc etc but it’s just a bit too big being honest. I found the standard 7 to be the perfect size but like everything else I’ll probably get used to it.

Yeah the XR is a bit big, but apart from that it looks like a great phone, all the haters saying the screen resolution is archaic have really been proven wrong, there’s more to screen quality than resolution as proved by numerous videos like this one with people choosing it over much higher res OLED phones!

[zofinger]

Interesting to read about Apple's share price drop today with investors particularly worried by Apple's reliance on high prices if it needs to ride out a downturn in consumer spending. Higher prices risks them losing market share. Are we in the period when Apple are making hay while the sun shines i.e.: maximising profits whilst they have good market share before needing to re-price at a more resonable level.

[sahajesh]

Originally Posted by zofinger

Interesting to read about Apple's share price drop today with investors particularly worried by Apple's reliance on high prices if it needs to ride out a downturn in consumer spending. Higher prices risks them losing market share. Are we in the period when Apple are making hay while the sun shines i.e.: maximising profits whilst they have good market share before needing to re-price at a more resonable level.

Let's hope so. With the increases for the new MacBook Air and iPad ranges (yet still maintaining the old price for the legacy Air), there's a lot of commentary in this area.

A few bloggers have said that Apple offers free tuition etc with the One to One courses (which is unique to Apple) and that's a value add - yes it is but so few people use that, however everyone pays the premium (partly funding those courses). No different from other things of course, with the majority paying for things that only a minority use.

[Chas325]

They need a mid range phone especially for business use. I manage a bunch of devices (a few thousand)- the cost centre holders have a choice which phones their employees can order. Galaxy A6 at 300+vat or iPhone at 600/700 odd plus vat.

Now the iPad is 260 +Vat it’s an interesting proposition for us now since the galaxy tab a is a similar price. Apples business programs like DEP and VPp are way better than anything google has though.

Give me an iPhone at 400 ish +Vat and I’ll take several thousand of them!

[ciscopete822]

Originally Posted by Chasdrury

They need a mid range phone especially for business use. I manage a bunch of devices (a few thousand)- the cost centre holders have a choice which phones their employees can order. Galaxy A6 at 300+vat or iPhone at 600/700 odd plus vat.

Now the iPad is 260 +Vat it’s an interesting proposition for us now since the galaxy tab a is a similar price. Apples business programs like DEP and VPp are way better than anything google has though.

Give me an iPhone at 400 ish +Vat and I’ll take several thousand of them!

Keep dreaming , this is what me and others were trying to say. Iphone at 600 pounds price point would be an awesome device. Same iphone at 1100 without fast charging and other goodies is a joke. Overinflated lineup with too many , incorrectly priced and targeted devices. Same thing happen to Apple in early 90s. Looking for crazy profit rather than marketshare.

[teaston]

Originally Posted by Chasdrury

They need a mid range phone especially for business use. I manage a bunch of devices (a few thousand)- the cost centre holders have a choice which phones their employees can order. Galaxy A6 at 300+vat or iPhone at 600/700 odd plus vat.

Now the iPad is 260 +Vat it’s an interesting proposition for us now since the galaxy tab a is a similar price. Apples business programs like DEP and VPp are way better than anything google has though.

Give me an iPhone at 400 ish +Vat and I’ll take several thousand of them!

The iPhone 7 is £449 including VAT! :

[Hanchurch]

Got my XS today, the screen is much bigger than my old 7 with only a very slightly bigger phone.

[teaston]

Originally Posted by Hanchurch

Got my XS today, the screen is much bigger than my old 7 with only a very slightly bigger phone.

I’m so used to mine now my wife’s iPhone 7 screen looks tiny!

[Broncho]

Originally Posted by teaston

I’m so used to mine now my wife’s iPhone 7 screen looks tiny!

100% this, the Mrs is on an IPhone 7 and when I pick it up I wonder how I ever managed with such a small phone after owning the XR for only about 6 weeks.

It really is superb added with a ridiculous data allowance means I just stream stuff in places like the gym when I'm on the treadmill for an hour at a time, the screen is great for this and the battery life is another level compared to the 7.