[NanasBack]

I think the roadsign is particularly significant for that island.
You just wouldn't expect people to go right?



But, if you hadn't slowed down so much, that probably wouldn't have happened.



Good result.

[adam.b]

Originally Posted by NanasBack

But, if you hadn't slowed down so much, that probably wouldn't have happened.



Good result.

Had this on my mind for same time, normally every one is going thru there 50+ as it is 70mph road and roundabout is big enough for that kind of speed.

Originally Posted by Kal101

Round here the local councils have started white lining and signing the roundabouts to allow this type on manoeuvre.

There is/was marking but worn out due to building side heavy traffic

[Goneinsixtyseconds]

Originally Posted by SantaEugence

Exactly. Great result.
Honestly laughable reading the comments on here suggesting it's your fault - tp is clearly in the wrong lane and turns across you causing the accident. Sure if you'd completed your Gold RoSPA (sounds like many of this thread have done this or are advanced drivers) perhaps you'd have avoided the collision but that doesn't mean you're to blame for her incompetence.

I don’t think it’s the OP’s fault. But that doesn’t mean I’d have been sat where he was when he got driven into.

I do 25,000 miles a year and have done for over 20 years, without a sense of anticipation I could have been hit like the OP was a dozen times. But it generally doesn’t happen because you can see it coming. And you could see this one coming from miles away. Yes the OP is not at fault, but he could have spotted the fault the other driver was about to make.

[Sennen]

The great one has spoken

[Goneinsixtyseconds]

Originally Posted by Sennen

The great one has spoken

And so did many more before me. I’m not getting into a conversation with you on here. If you want to have a pop at every post why don’t you do it through PM. I’m not a big fan of the chip permanently sat on your shoulder. But on not one single occasion until now have I said anything.

If you want to make personal comments, try PM’s instead, or not at all.

[M33DLO]

Glad it's all sorted now.

I saw that collision coming a mile off.!
Hesitant Merc, clear body language of either being lost, clueless, or drunk.
Faster car on the inside with no skill to pre-empt the impending collision, fixated on going straight over with no awareness for the Merc.

Yes, Merc in the wrong but this was so easily avoidable by just hanging back and allowing the Merc to get on with whatever sh1t driving she was doing.
From my back seat driver POV, I reckon this was still avoidable by turning right with her and going round, rather than just stamping on the brakes or the mystery left turn that the OP made when the Merc was very visibly turning right.

It was so amature it almost looked like a rubbish 'crash for cash' effort.

Never sit on the inside wing of another car on roundabouts, so many either straighten it or go all the way around.

Glad to hear it's finally sorted, OP. 7 months of pain for an easily avoidable (by both parties) crunch.
It's also good to read that you now treat other road users as idiots so most probably this won't happen again.

[adam.b]

Every collision is avoidable but if one part keep pushing, no mater what you do, it will happen.

For those who said that it was avoidable or saw this coming, I was there and I done as much as possible to avoid it at the time it happened.
Clearly here are better drivers than me which would avoided it but it was me and i have learn my lesson.

[kzg1969]

Originally Posted by adam.b

Clearly here are better drivers than me which would avoided it but it was me and i have learn my lesson.

Everyone learns lessons - sometimes it is through near misses, sometime through accidents. The main thing is to learn from them and then move on, ensuring no repeat.

And forums are great for people expressing how much better/richer/safer/stronger/etc they are than you.

[ArthurKing]

Pleased you got the decision in your favour.

As others have said, perhaps you could have anticipated this a little more but she is trying to go right round a roundabout in the outside lane, there is no excuse for that.

I tend to drive fairly defensively myself and drive assuming everyone else will do the stupidest possible thing they can do and I am usually prepared. I try to tell my Wife the same thing as she is a fairly aggressive driver. If your brain thinks 'Surely they won't do something that stupid', assume they will and be ready to react.

Roundabouts are notorious for poor driving, there is one near us with four busy junctions, three of them have national speed limit approaching them and during rush hours its horrific to try and pull onto the roundabout. I can't count how many times I have been going straight over and some prat in the inside lane decides they want to go left across my path, all because they wanted to cut the stationary traffic as the inside lane is quicker.

If I see someone waiting to pull out of a junction, I always assume they are going to pull out on me and my foot is ready to hit the brakes. 99/100 they won't but that 1 time will save me hitting them.

Always assume every other driver is going to do the stupidest possible thing they could do and be ready to react.

[dopper99]

With regards defensive driving.....

We've a roundabout above the M4 near us on my way to work and the amount of prats jumping red lights is unbelievable.

So while I'm waiting on a red light on the roundabout, I've learnt to make sure no-one is likely to jump to lights and come across in front of me, even if my light has gone from amber to green. You cant trust anyone.

The total prats about, especially in the rush hour is unreal.

[Ronstein]

Originally Posted by dopper99

With regards defensive driving.....

We've a roundabout above the M4 near us on my way to work and the amount of prats jumping red lights is unbelievable.

So while I'm waiting on a red light on the roundabout, I've learnt to make sure no-one is likely to jump to lights and come across in front of me, even if my light has gone from amber to green. You cant trust anyone.

The total prats about, especially in the rush hour is unreal.

I join at J16 of the M4 where there are (from memory, three sets of traffic lights in quick succession. The final set onto the main roundabout change very quickly and the combination is an accident waiting to happen.

I some times wonder if these junctions are designed by people who don't drive!!

[dopper99]

Originally Posted by Ronstein

I join at J16 of the M4 where there are (from memory, three sets of traffic lights in quick succession. The final set onto the main roundabout change very quickly and the combination is an accident waiting to happen.

I some times wonder if these junctions are designed by people who don't drive!!

That's exactly the junction I'm referring too.

It's been redesigned in the last couple of years and whoever fcukwit designed it needs sacking. Gets very dangerous due to the crazy layout when there is a large volume of traffic in the rush hour.

[MashinBenzin]

Originally Posted by dopper99

That's exactly the junction I'm referring too.

It's been redesigned in the last couple of years and whoever fcukwit designed it needs sacking. Gets very dangerous due to the crazy layout when there is a large volume of traffic in the rush hour.

Oh I used to deal with that one daily too, up until 7 months ago and COVID. What an utter mess of conflicting lights and roads.

[dopper99]

Originally Posted by MashinBenzin

Oh I used to deal with that one daily too, up until 7 months ago and COVID. What an utter mess of conflicting lights and roads.

Yes same here! Also due to Covid i'm working from home, so like you not been across it during rush hour for 7 months, thank god.

[SantaEugence]

Originally Posted by dopper99

That's exactly the junction I'm referring too.

It's been redesigned in the last couple of years and whoever fcukwit designed it needs sacking. Gets very dangerous due to the crazy layout when there is a large volume of traffic in the rush hour.

This is where I got hit earlier this year too. Someone from the left lane wanted to go right (even after just driving over an arrow that was straight on only) and drove into the rear side of my car after I was almost entirely past them

[dazzapb]

Had this TWICE on the same day at the same roundabout in London! For school drop off and pickup, why people assume they can turn right in a left lane i will never know

Seen it late as they come across me but managed to break out of it. Doesn't look as bad with Dash cam but thats mounted up high on the left of the windscreen

[SkyJawa]

Originally Posted by dazzapb

Had this TWICE on the same day at the same roundabout in London! For school drop off and pickup, why people assume they can turn right in a left lane i will never know

Seen it late as they come across me but managed to break out of it. Doesn't look as bad with Dash cam but thats mounted up high on the left of the windscreen

Not helped by ridiculous lane markings....

[dazzapb]

Originally Posted by SkyJawa

Not helped by ridiculous lane markings....

Yeah pretty bad however not uncommon here

[Goneinsixtyseconds]

Originally Posted by dazzapb

Yeah pretty bad however not uncommon here

It is more the fault of the lane markings than the driver. As you enter the roundabout it says right in your lane only, once you’re on the roundabout the left lane has markings to take you round to the right. Ridiculous.

[MashinBenzin]

Originally Posted by dazzapb

Had this TWICE on the same day at the same roundabout in London! For school drop off and pickup, why people assume they can turn right in a left lane i will never know

Seen it late as they come across me but managed to break out of it. Doesn't look as bad with Dash cam but thats mounted up high on the left of the windscreen

Good defensive driving, had you positioned less wisely then there would likely have been a coming together.