F30POST
F30POST
2012-2015 BMW 3-Series and 4-Series Forum
BMW Garage BMW Meets Register Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read
BMW 3-Series and 4-Series Forum (F30 / F32) | F30POST > 2012-2019 BMW 3 and 4-Series Forums > General F30 Sedan / F32 Coupe / F36 Gran Coupe Forum > Information needed. Expanding rivet or screw?
GetBMWParts
Post Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
      10-16-2021, 09:21 AM   #1
Steve L.
New Member
4
Rep
28
Posts

Drives: BMW 335i
Join Date: Oct 2021
Location: Minnesota

iTrader: (0)

Information needed. Expanding rivet or screw?

The car is a 2014 335i M sport I’m trying to figure out which type of fastener is needed for securing the bumper cover to an underbody adapter. The pieces were missing when I bought the car. I bought the black 8mm screws but C clip nuts don’t fit over the wholes. That makes me think an expanding rivet is needed. If someone with a similar intact car could look at theirs and let me know what fastener is used and maybe even add a picture I would really appreciate it.
Attached Images
 
Appreciate 0
      10-16-2021, 12:20 PM   #2
Wires
Brigadier General
Canada
1643
Rep
4,866
Posts

Drives: 2016 340i xDrive
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Calgary

iTrader: (0)

Didn't you already ask that in your other post when you are going through this ordeal?

Short answer, looks like push rivets since there is nothing to screw into. The front is a combination of screws and rivets.
Appreciate 0
      10-16-2021, 01:11 PM   #3
dmaxdmax
Captain
dmaxdmax's Avatar
United_States
417
Rep
923
Posts

Drives: 2016 M235i 6-spd
Join Date: Jan 2020
Location: New Jersey

iTrader: (0)

https://www.realoem.com/bmw/enUS/sho...diagId=51_3157

For mine, not necessarily yours. Every part number you'll ever need. Start at the top; enter your vin; go to town.
__________________
'92 325i, '99 328i, '16 340i, '16 M235i all manuals

dmax on FB

My last pre-covid standup set
Appreciate 0
      10-16-2021, 01:31 PM   #4
Steve L.
New Member
4
Rep
28
Posts

Drives: BMW 335i
Join Date: Oct 2021
Location: Minnesota

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Wires View Post
Didn't you already ask that in your other post when you are going through this ordeal?

Short answer, looks like push rivets since there is nothing to screw into. The front is a combination of screws and rivets.
Yes, I asked a lot of questions in my previous post and received a lot of useful responses. However, I’m still uncertain about the appropriate fasteners and thought it would be more productive to solicit information for this specific inquiry.
Appreciate 0
      10-16-2021, 01:33 PM   #5
Steve L.
New Member
4
Rep
28
Posts

Drives: BMW 335i
Join Date: Oct 2021
Location: Minnesota

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by dmaxdmax View Post
https://www.realoem.com/bmw/enUS/sho...diagId=51_3157

For mine, not necessarily yours. Every part number you'll ever need. Start at the top; enter your vin; go to town.
Thanks for responding. I am familiar with realoem but the appropriate fastener for this application is ambiguous on realoem.
Appreciate 0
      10-16-2021, 03:22 PM   #6
dmaxdmax
Captain
dmaxdmax's Avatar
United_States
417
Rep
923
Posts

Drives: 2016 M235i 6-spd
Join Date: Jan 2020
Location: New Jersey

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve L. View Post
Thanks for responding. I am familiar with realoem but the appropriate fastener for this application is ambiguous on realoem.
Looks like #15 and #19. You need to spend a lot of time on realoem to 'feel' it. I'm sure yours will be similar.
__________________
'92 325i, '99 328i, '16 340i, '16 M235i all manuals

dmax on FB

My last pre-covid standup set
Appreciate 0
      10-16-2021, 06:36 PM   #7
Steve L.
New Member
4
Rep
28
Posts

Drives: BMW 335i
Join Date: Oct 2021
Location: Minnesota

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by dmaxdmax View Post
Looks like #15 and #19. You need to spend a lot of time on realoem to 'feel' it. I'm sure yours will be similar.
Thanks for your input. Here’s my link. I need to attach 34 to 1. Tell me if the appropriate fasteners and their location is apparent.

https://www.realoem.com/bmw/enUS/sho...diagId=51_8506
Appreciate 0
      10-17-2021, 05:04 AM   #8
dmaxdmax
Captain
dmaxdmax's Avatar
United_States
417
Rep
923
Posts

Drives: 2016 M235i 6-spd
Join Date: Jan 2020
Location: New Jersey

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve L. View Post
Thanks for your input. Here’s my link. I need to attach 34 to 1. Tell me if the appropriate fasteners and their location is apparent.

https://www.realoem.com/bmw/enUS/sho...diagId=51_8506
Not on this diagram. #18 and #20 seem likely, though it doesn't show their respective clips. I'd probably get an assortment of fasteners and pray.

I know the struggle.
__________________
'92 325i, '99 328i, '16 340i, '16 M235i all manuals

dmax on FB

My last pre-covid standup set
Appreciate 0
      10-17-2021, 09:09 AM   #9
Wires
Brigadier General
Canada
1643
Rep
4,866
Posts

Drives: 2016 340i xDrive
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Calgary

iTrader: (0)

Easiest way to find out is find another similar car in a parking lot, and snap off a pic under the front bumper.

If you were going by the dirt markers, the front 2 look like they are the wider fasteners (#19). Not sure since I did a lip to mine, but my front 2 are the fasteners, then next 2 (that you have fasteners in) are push rivets.
Appreciate 0
      10-17-2021, 09:26 AM   #10
visionaut
Captain
visionaut's Avatar
United_States
1301
Rep
873
Posts

Drives: 2016 435iX GC & 1976 2002
Join Date: Aug 2018
Location: Mile High City, CO

iTrader: (0)

IIRC, the BMW instructions for installing their MP splitter shows the original fasteners with locations across the lower front of the bumper (for removal/reinstall). Maybe get a copy of that to use for reference? I like the ‘snap some under bumper pics of similar cars’ idea too.
Appreciate 0
      10-17-2021, 01:53 PM   #11
Steve L.
New Member
4
Rep
28
Posts

Drives: BMW 335i
Join Date: Oct 2021
Location: Minnesota

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by visionaut View Post
IIRC, the BMW instructions for installing their MP splitter shows the original fasteners with locations across the lower front of the bumper (for removal/reinstall). Maybe get a copy of that to use for reference? I like the ‘snap some under bumper pics of similar cars’ idea too.
You gave me the idea to search YouTube videos for splitter installations and I found this one.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LZas3Jfw2BI&t=636s

at 10:50 he starts removing the expanding rivets.

I don’t see any rivets on realoem that exactly match those he’s removing but number 18 on this diagram looks pretty close.

https://www.realoem.com/bmw/enUS/sho...66#51118068130
Appreciate 0
      10-17-2021, 07:07 PM   #12
Dagstar
Second Lieutenant
341
Rep
234
Posts

Drives: 2014 F31 M Sport
Join Date: Sep 2021
Location: CT

iTrader: (1)

I have an M Sport bumper and just removed those rivets a few days ago. They look like #20 with the smaller head. Attached pic is from the realoem part list Steve L posted.
Attached Images
 
Appreciate 0
      10-17-2021, 08:25 PM   #13
Steve L.
New Member
4
Rep
28
Posts

Drives: BMW 335i
Join Date: Oct 2021
Location: Minnesota

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dagstar View Post
I have an M Sport bumper and just removed those rivets a few days ago. They look like #20 with the smaller head. Attached pic is from the realoem part list Steve L posted.
Thanks. I think I’m going to order a few of each as suggested before and cross my fingers.
Appreciate 0
Post Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:47 AM.




f30post
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
1Addicts.com, BIMMERPOST.com, E90Post.com, F30Post.com, M3Post.com, ZPost.com, 5Post.com, 6Post.com, 7Post.com, XBimmers.com logo and trademark are properties of BIMMERPOST