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      01-30-2022, 05:35 PM   #2399
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Quality watches don’t tick!
They do, just not every second. I think 7 ticks per second is quite normal. You can hear them if you put it close to your ear.

Mechanical watches don’t have a totally smooth second hand, but appear to sweep. They just have more steps per second, so it looks like a sweep.

If you want totally smooth seconds, you need to look at Grand Seiko spring drive watches.
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Do more expensive watches have second hands that tick precisely to the seconds markers on the dial?
Quality watches don’t tick!
Hahaha a sweeping statement (get it). Plenty of nice watches out there, I'm no longer 8n the market for a Rolex anyways.
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They do, just not every second. I think 7 ticks per second is quite normal. You can hear them if you put it close to your ear.

Mechanical watches don’t have a totally smooth second hand, but appear to sweep. They just have more steps per second, so it looks like a sweep.

If you want totally smooth seconds, you need to look at Grand Seiko spring drive watches.
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Daft q probably.
Do more expensive watches have second hands that tick precisely to the seconds markers on the dial?
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Are these replies a wind up?

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I meant for the non-sweeping ones do they accurately, precisely point to the second markers. I’ve had watches in the past where even the “12 o’clock position” isn’t dead on the marker, which annoyed me!

I like the Grand Seiko. Not in the market for a while yet though. Got a Garmin Vivoactive 4S at Christmas. Pleased with it and the size on my small wrist - but some of the text is quite small - anyone know if the small text size is bigger on the 4?
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Are these replies a wind up?

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I meant for the non-sweeping ones do they accurately, precisely point to the second markers. I’ve had watches in the past where even the “12 o’clock position” isn’t dead on the marker, which annoyed me!

I like the Grand Seiko. Not in the market for a while yet though. Got a Garmin Vivoactive 4S at Christmas. Pleased with it and the size on my small wrist - but some of the text is quite small - anyone know if the small text size is bigger on the 4?
Quartz watches will “tick” once per second and may or may not line up.
Mechanical watches do “tick” but depending on their quality will tick in smaller increments giving the impression of a smoother continuous sweep.

Some manufacturers take the view that the second hand shows that you are “in” the n th second, rather than “at” the n th second as time is continuous.
Some are just misaligned!
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Are these replies a wind up?

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I meant for the non-sweeping ones do they accurately, precisely point to the second markers. I’ve had watches in the past where even the “12 o’clock position” isn’t dead on the marker, which annoyed me!

I like the Grand Seiko. Not in the market for a while yet though. Got a Garmin Vivoactive 4S at Christmas. Pleased with it and the size on my small wrist - but some of the text is quite small - anyone know if the small text size is bigger on the 4?
Well they line up on the Garmin Epix
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Same here - on the mark exactly. The 2nd hand sweeps but looks like it judders very slightly if you study it closely. Casual glance it seems to just sweep.
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I've seen a lot of misaligned chapter rings on Seiko, it's why I returned a SKX007.
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Well they line up on the Garmin Epix
Bought the Epix2 but sent it back...although the screen is amazing quality I didn't like it as it lit up a dark room went back to my 6 Pro for now. Will wait and see what the Forerunner 955 is like...
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Quartz watches tick once a second to conserve battery life. Mechanical watches "tick", usually 6, 8, or 10 times (that is, the escapement swings back and forwards that number of times). It's not silky smooth, there is a bit of a stutter to the movement.

You can also get mechanical watches which have "dead seconds" or "true seconds" where a special section forces the second hand to move once per second (even though the escapement is still doing it's normal speed). Both in regard to these watches and quartz watches, ticking on the marker doesn't seem to be a priority.

And, as mentioned, if you want a really smooth sweep to your second hand, Grand Seiko spring drive is the way to go. (But have a look at Frederique Constant Monolithic line, it does a smooth sweep as well, without spring drive - though it isn't as accurate as spring drive)
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Nice!

Pretty much given up on getting a Sub. I just don't get Rolex and their crazy lead times and their dealer network that treat you with contempt unless you have a history with them. I am sure they have their reasons, but I find it all a bit weird.
Ive got a 2012 brand new never worn black 40mm date sub for sale if your interested pal
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How much? PM me I might be interested
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Fitted a deployment clasp to the Bremont MB11 , suits it better than the standard buckle fitment.

Been looking at the Pelagos FXD with interest , so whats the story with them as i cant seem to find any new ones online , they all ask to register your interest ?

Are Tudor playing playing the same restricting availability games as Rolex now ??

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Fitted a deployment clasp to the Bremont MB11 , suits it better than the standard buckle fitment.

Been looking at the Pelagos FXD with interest , so whats the story with them as i cant seem to find any new ones online , they all ask to register your interest ?

Are Tudor playing playing the same restricting availability games as Rolex now ??

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When I bought my BB58 I had to register with as many dealers as possible. Wait times were being quoted at 12 months at the time so I registered with a few to see what would come of it.

Some dealers wanted a deposit to guarantee a wait list position, one wanted full payment up front. In the end I waited 3 months before a dealer I had no history with was able to offer me one.

When I went in and spoke to them they were of the opinion that the demand simply outweighed the stock allocation/supply. So not the same as what Rolex do IMO but simply the market at the time. The Pelagos FXD is a relatively new and very well received release so is likely going through the same initial surge in demand.

But I'm no expert in these matters :
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Fitted a deployment clasp to the Bremont MB11 , suits it better than the standard buckle fitment.

Been looking at the Pelagos FXD with interest , so whats the story with them as i cant seem to find any new ones online , they all ask to register your interest ?

Are Tudor playing playing the same restricting availability games as Rolex now ??

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I had to order my BB58 (with deposit). Took about 5 months to come. I use Chisholm Hunter at Silverburn. David is the Tudor guy.

My brother walked into a shop in Norwich and got a Pelagos LHD the same day. But it's where he got his Rolex GMT so may be combination of luck and they know him.

My wife got her Tudor on the day from Chisholm Hunter (Black Bay 32 S&G).

On the other hand, I ordered new Panda Chrono in May. Paid deposit and was told it was a 12 month wait. I've heard stock is very slow - and I know the AD.

Although Tudor is sister company of Rolex, it doesnt command the over inflated resale value due to limited supply.

However, there are rumours that they are starting to limit supply of some watches (ie Panda Chrono) but as demand lowers, supply will be ok.

Hope this helps. Let me know if you need anything else!
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Hope this helps. Let me know if you need anything else!
Cheers , will pop into WoS and Laings next week at some point and have a chat , both have my name on their list for a Deep Sea JC so maybe purchasing a FXD may help the "cause" should a JC become available.

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They are selling for around 11-11.5k
I would take 10k mate
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Bought the Epix2 but sent it back...although the screen is amazing quality I didn't like it as it lit up a dark room went back to my 6 Pro for now. Will wait and see what the Forerunner 955 is like...
So I sent back my Epix2 but the store refused it as it had been registered with Garmin. Anyone on here interested in buying? Only used for one walk, so is like new. It's the titanium sapphire model. Boxed etc
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Cheers , will pop into WoS and Laings next week at some point and have a chat , both have my name on their list for a Deep Sea JC so maybe purchasing a FXD may help the "cause" should a JC become available.

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Tudor aren't nearly as bad as Rolex, although it's model dependent (whereas with Rolex you just cant buy anything of remote interest)

The Tudor GMT was in short supply when I ordered mine. Goldsmith's at Braehead told me I'd be a year if not 2 before I got one. Went to Laing's in Argyle Arcade, paid a small deposit and had it in under 3 months. Now, you can walk in to most places and pick one up out the window. I'd wholly recommend Laing's, I used the smaller boutique nearer the Buchanan St end, not the main shop. The girl I dealt with was called Louise from memory.

Folk then moved on to the blue face BB and that was limited supply, but only for the first 6-12 months.

The Pelagos FXD will no doubt be similar. Early uptake and short supply but improving over time. The Panda Chrono seems to be the only thing still in short supply
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