[Rudz]

Hey Guys

I had my car remapped @ Mulgari a while ago, I've run it for about 2000 miles now, car feels wonderful, very smooth and torquey, surge of power is like a thunderbolt, can take on most cars on the road with ease (although a Golf R really impressed in a short duel, I believe these cars can run 400+bhp with just a remap ? amazing if true)

A couple of observations
- It takes a couple of ticks to get moving ? probably need a sprint booster ?
- Suspension is still the limiting factor, the lack of sharpness, the wallowy feel at roundabouts is driving me a bit mad, a chat to Lorcan once I am back from Hols Re: Sports supension, should hopefully improve things....
- The XDrive really shines, I've had no tyre squeels nor brown pant moments at all, could feel the back end give away on my 335i, but car feels pretty solid with the xDrive, it's great news the m340i gets the xDrive, Appreciate it divides opinion, but I feel it's great

Lastly, drove up to Surrey rolling road today to put it on the rollers, it made a very healthy 384 bhp but very high torque ? Should I be worried guys ? Mulgari offer Engine/Drive train warranty on their remaps for life, assume it's going to be ok ? They are a professional outfit, i could get them to dial down the map a bit ? Appreciate the advice

Cheers
Rudz

[Smee]

759nm i wouldnt worry

nice results

[goodbyalfa]

I'm no expert, but the torque curve looks non optimal. Appears to fall off quite a bit. Power curve looks great however, linear.

[Rudz]

cheers guys

Anyone else think the same about the torque curve ? I am no expert either but the guys at Surrey Rolling road said the graphs were good and the car was happy as larry....

[Hooded]

Originally Posted by Rudz

Anyone else think the same about the torque curve ? I am no expert either but the guys at Surrey Rolling road said the graphs were good and the car was happy as larry....

No.

Here's another 335d making similar power to yours, ...as you can see at various points on the rev range 2250rpm, 3250rpm, and most importantly still at 4750rpm your car makes roughly the same torque to this car.

[goodbyalfa]

Originally Posted by Hooded

No.

Here's another 335d making similar power to yours, ...as you can see at various points on the rev range 2250rpm, 3250rpm, and most importantly still at 4750rpm your car makes roughly the same torque to this car.

This one looks flatter, for longer I think which is better.

[Hooded]

Originally Posted by goodbyalfa

This one looks flatter, for longer I think which is better.

The graph is misleading as the dimensions are slightly different, the OP's graph is taller and the other is wider making it look flatter, but apart from a little bump up at around 3500/3600rpm on the evolve tune torque curve the torque is similar throughout the rev range, and if you were to draw the OP's cars torque line on the evolve graph it would be very similar.

At the end of the day the OP's car makes roughly the same low down torque at 2250rpm and makes slightly more torque higher up at 4750rpm .. so what could be wrong with that?

We haven't even discussed different dynos used!

Cheers

[leeadam]

mine running wagner and map at 409bhp...heres last RR i had, had no issues and drives smooth. the lower line is my previous map when i went to RR prior to IC and map update to suit.

[goodbyalfa]

Originally Posted by Hooded

The graph is misleading as the dimensions are slightly different, the OP's graph is taller and the other is wider making it look flatter, but apart from a little bump up at around 3500/3600rpm on the evolve tune torque curve the torque is similar throughout the rev range, and if you were to draw the OP's cars torque line on the evolve graph it would be very similar.

At the end of the day the OP's car makes roughly the same low down torque at 2250rpm and makes slightly more torque higher up at 4750rpm .. so what could be wrong with that?

We haven't even discussed different dynos used!

Cheers

I'm not sure about that.
Makes around 560 at 2250rpm, falling to 500 at only 3500rpm.

A flat constant torque curve is felt as linear, acceleration. However, while many/most may prefer linear acceleration, many enthusiats revel in the powerband that is a result of having a peaky torque curve that only comes from petrol engines.

[Hooded]

Originally Posted by goodbyalfa

I'm not sure about that.
Makes around 560 at 2250rpm, falling to 500 at only 3500rpm.

A flat constant torque curve is felt as linear, acceleration. However, while many/most may prefer linear acceleration, many enthusiats revel in the powerband that is a result of having a peaky torque curve that only comes from petrol engines.

The evolve map makes around 550 at 2250rpm and has dropped to around 510 at only 3375rpm .. so only 'slightly' more linear in the middle perhaps .. but the OP's makes more torque at the top of the rev range at 4750rpm remember too, and these cars hold onto the gear past that point in sport mode stick left in DS.

Comparing both sets of torque at various points on the rev range ..
2250rpm - OP 560 Evolve 550
3250rpm - OP 515 Evolve 515
4000rpm - OP 480 Evolve 485
4750rpm - OP 420 Evolve 410

Nothing drastically different between them, the OP's is 10 higher at 2250 and 10 higher up at 4750 too, the evolve one is slightly stronger in the middle between 3500-4000rpm but overall the difference between them is very minimal, and we are comparing cars tested on 2 completely different dynos aswell.