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View Poll Results: Where will RUS finish in the Sakhir "Oval" race? | |||
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5 | 23.81% |
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6 | 28.57% |
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3 | 14.29% |
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1 | 4.76% |
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0 | 0% |
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0 | 0% |
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1 | 4.76% |
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2 | 9.52% |
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0 | 0% |
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3 | 14.29% |
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Hmm... I think Ham is amazing, but I can't say whether he would beat all else in the same car. To be clear I am not one of the people who has said his success is only the machinery. You guys are generally ignorant to actual objectivity though.
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I merely stated that having HAM drive the car gives you strategic options that having a rookie in the car does not. In fact, this is demonstrated quite often in with BOT. HAM preserves tires and runs longer than almost any other driver especially his teammate. You stated that this is a comparison against RUS. I like RUS and know that he is the future of Mercedes.
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The technology is definitely a huge part but since you were around for the MSC years, even adjusting for the team orders, it wasn't often that the #2s were getting more out of the car than MSC. To me, the almost merging of man and machine is where you get to the art of the sport which is beautiful in a completely different way. HAMs 2018 Singapore lap or MSC pulling out 20 qualifying laps in Magny Cours. These are performances that transcend man and machine if you consider them separately but only occur with perfect harmony between the two. We saw it with SEN and MSC...now we are seeing it with HAM.
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The dictionary definition clearly defines and supports my basis of objective data. I chose the last five years b/c VER began his F1 career in 2015. The lower formulas (F3000, F3, F2, etc) are spec-racer series with identically prepared PU's, etc. HAM excelled in the lower formulas, so your point whether HAM "would beat all else in the same car" is not valid.
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You guys clearly employ massive favoritism, thus me letting you in on the plain meaning of objectivity. On that note, I'll let you guys continue to stroke each other for whatever it is that you're actually doing. Congrats?
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I don't think anyone is down playing the performance advantage that the W11 has at the majority of tracks or that Russell did a brilliant job driving the W11 on sunday.
However its a naïve suggestion that one great drive on a short fairly simple track by Russell in any way diminishes Hamiltons career in the lower formula and most especially in F1. I've been a big fan of Russell for quite a while wondering if his pace in the Williams was as impressive as it seemed...so it was especially gratifying to see him drive so brilliantly in the Mercedes. Maybe in a couple of years time it will be obvious that Russell does indeed have the same innate talent and skill set that Hamilton has.....or he may yet turn out the same as many other drivers who have appeared in F1 with great promise that was never quite fulfilled. |
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