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      09-30-2013, 08:33 PM   #45
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^ there are no tpms inside the wheels.
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      09-30-2013, 10:52 PM   #46
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^ there are no tpms inside the wheels.
thanks bobblehead..i guess that means i can change the tire myself without worrying about the car's low tire pressure warning.
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Anyone get better prices? will probably lean towards the WS70 since its sooo cheap

225/45/18 square

VMR710 $990
Bridgestone Blizzak WS70 91T - $840.00
Michelin X-Ice Xi2 95T XL - $960.00
Bridgestone Blizzak LM60 95H XL - $1,020.00
Pirelli W210 Sottozero 95H XL - $1,060.00
Michelin PA3 93V XL - $1,100.00
Pirelli W210 Sottozero 2 RFT 91H - $1,090.00
Pirelli W240 Sottozero 2 RFT 95V XL- $1,090.00
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Does anyone know if F30 has TPMS in Canada?
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Anyone get better prices? will probably lean towards the WS70 since its sooo cheap

225/45/18 square

VMR710 $990
Bridgestone Blizzak WS70 91T - $840.00
Michelin X-Ice Xi2 95T XL - $960.00
Bridgestone Blizzak LM60 95H XL - $1,020.00
Pirelli W210 Sottozero 95H XL - $1,060.00
Michelin PA3 93V XL - $1,100.00
Pirelli W210 Sottozero 2 RFT 91H - $1,090.00
Pirelli W240 Sottozero 2 RFT 95V XL- $1,090.00
who is offering these prices? do you know what is the $ for 225/50/17?
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Simply tires

http://simplytire.com/winter/tiresonlypdf2.pdf

check out their early bird group buy which is on now.

http://forums.redflagdeals.com/simpl...014-a-1384548/


If you live in the west end (Mississuaga/Brampton), there is Tires23

Here is their early bird group buy which is also on now

http://forums.redflagdeals.com/tires...ecial-1387937/




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who is offering these prices? do you know what is the $ for 225/50/17?
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      10-02-2013, 10:34 PM   #52
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In choosing a winter tire, you need to consider the conditions of the winter roads that you expect to do most of your driving. If you live in an area where snow removal is infrequent, WS-70 will probably be a better choice than the LM60. But if your roads are kept clean on most days, LM-60 could be a good bet.
Very well said.

There is no such thing as "the best winter tire", since winter tires are all about making compromises between:
- dry traction
- wet traction
- ice traction
- snow traction
(and other things like wear resistance, road noise, cost, etc)

However, even big cities like Toronto may have side roads which remain unplowed for days after a big storm. Also, even plowed/salted roads can develop black ice after a thaw-refreeze cycle.

I debated between "performance winter tires" and "snow/ice winter tires" a few years ago when I got my E90 335xi, and ended up choosing a "snow/ice" set (Conti ExtremeWinterContact).



Those who want to learn more about winter tires may find this article helpful:

Car and Driver Winter Tire Comparison Test (Dec 2009):
http://www.caranddriver.com/comparis...mparison-tests


Also, I know of at least 2 comparison tests done by TireRack (both times on BMWs, interestingly):

Comparison Test #1 (between 3 snow/ice winter tires and 1 performance variety, on a 2008 E92 328i Coupe):
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tests/...y.jsp?ttid=125

Comparison Test #2 (between 4 different snow/ice winter tires, on a 2012 F30 328i):
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tests/...y.jsp?ttid=167



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This is why I opted to get LM-60 on my 335: they provide better dry road handling than the WS-70.

The WS-70 offers better traction on wet/snow/ice roads. However, since snow always gets removed pretty quickly and effectively where I live in Montreal, I wanted the LM-60 because most days consist of driving on clean dry winter roads. I didn't want to compromise most days of dry road handling performance for just a handful of bad winter days. The WS-70 would be better for those miserable days, but I can avoid driving on those days.
In Comparison Test #1 by TireRack, the LM actually had WORSE dry stopping distance than the WS. (In fact, it had the worst dry stopping distance among the 4 products, but the best wet stopping distance.)
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tests/...y.jsp?ttid=125
(Click on "Test Result Charts" or "Spider Charts" to see the actual data)



In the end, ANY winter tire will perform better in cold weather (<7 degrees C) than even the best all-season tire, and no tire in the world can stop a reckless driver from ending up in a ditch, so choose your product wisely and drive safely.


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never said xdrive would help you stop. im stating that ottawa has worse winters then toronto. and my dads all season is doing fine in ottawa winters. just my opinion
i love that...doing "fine". $70,000 car.....whats another $1200? You are going to go through 2 sets of tires at some point so just do it properly and make one set winters. AWD masks a/s tire performance by giving you great acceleration making you think they are "Fine" in the winter. Put them on a RWD car and the difference is night and day. They don't stop or corner very well compared to winters.
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Has anyone chose the Michelin Xice instead of Bridgestone WS70? I live in Toronto and most of the times, the roads are cleared pretty quickly....
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Has anyone chose the Michelin Xice instead of Bridgestone WS70? I live in Toronto and most of the times, the roads are cleared pretty quickly....
I got the X-ice Xi3 for my wife's X3.

Probably going to get it for my new 335xi as well.

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All this talk of tires. Thanks for all this info. Very helpful. Anyone have any recommendations for a nice set of 18 winter rims for my 335 performance edition that will look as nice as the 20 M performance rims this car comes with for summer ? What do people suggest? Thanks.
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not sure what's your budget ?

You can check out the VMR wheels. cast wheels, fairly decent quality, Asian (Taiwan) made, nice design. Probably about $1000 for the set (wheels only).

But most will try to spend as little as possible by going with replicas, lots of choices & looks, Chinese Made, cast wheels, hit&miss quality. Probably about $700 range for the set (wheels only)

There are couple of reputable shops out there with decent & fair pricings. Simply tires & Tires23


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All this talk of tires. Thanks for all this info. Very helpful. Anyone have any recommendations for a nice set of 18 winter rims for my 335 performance edition that will look as nice as the 20 M performance rims this car comes with for summer ? What do people suggest? Thanks.
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not sure what's your budget ?

You can check out the VMR wheels. cast wheels, fairly decent quality, Asian (Taiwan) made, nice design. Probably about $1000 for the set (wheels only).

But most will try to spend as little as possible by going with replicas, lots of choices & looks, Chinese Made, cast wheels, hit&miss quality. Probably about $700 range for the set (wheels only)

There are couple of reputable shops out there with decent & fair pricings. Simply tires & Tires23


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All this talk of tires. Thanks for all this info. Very helpful. Anyone have any recommendations for a nice set of 18 winter rims for my 335 performance edition that will look as nice as the 20 M performance rims this car comes with for summer ? What do people suggest? Thanks.
Well as far as budget lets say I was going to get the dealerships 18 inch winter tire/rim package which is well over $3000 but this thread has convinced me otherwise. I also didn't really care for the only style of rims that are currently available for this care for winter from BMW.
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Replica Rims - Simply Tire?

Hi guys - trying to figure out which package to pick from Simply tire. I have heard a lot about cheap rims (bending, warping, etc). Are these rim's that Simply tire sell good quality.

Also - I had Dunlop Wintersport 3d tires before but they don't seem to be an option. Is there an overwhelming favorite amongst these choices?
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^ For RWD, I favor Blizzak WS70 if you drive lots of local roads. If lots of highway, LM60.
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Anyone considered "Gislaved Nordfrost 5"?
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I think the WS70s seem like a good choice. How about the Replica Rims at Simply tires. Are they considered good quality??

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^ For RWD, I favor Blizzak WS70 if you drive lots of local roads. If lots of highway, LM60.
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Basically, they are hit & miss as they are normally made in China where the quality control is questionable. That's why they are cheap.

Other shops basically sell the same thing, more or less with similar or more selections of styles but they all come from the few distributors.

In general, if you encounter any issue with the first little while with them, Simply tires will usually try to resolve the matter with you ASAP. That's one of the reason why they are pretty reputable and lots of people go there for their decent & fair pricing.

Since wheels are very personal to some, it's hard for me to tell others what to buy as the costs may not fit the person's budget. Therefore, just take your time and visit a few shops to get the quotes and ask questions. Alternatively, since you have so much time to look for wheels, why not search on this thread to see who wants to sell their oem stock wheels, perhaps, you may be able to find a good set that is not used a whole lot.




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I think the WS70s seem like a good choice. How about the Replica Rims at Simply tires. Are they considered good quality??

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i love that...doing "fine". $70,000 car.....whats another $1200? You are going to go through 2 sets of tires at some point so just do it properly and make one set winters. AWD masks a/s tire performance by giving you great acceleration making you think they are "Fine" in the winter. Put them on a RWD car and the difference is night and day. They don't stop or corner very well compared to winters.
Exactly... Safety is not about absolutes either. It's about percentages... Just like an insurance policy. You can do "fine" until you aren't. It takes one patch of ice to change your life forever. This doesn't mean that Winter tires will guarantee this won't happen, but it gives you a WAY better percentage - for a measly $1200.... Money well spent; Especially (as you said) when you're already paying north of 60k for a car.
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Anyone considered "Gislaved Nordfrost 5"?
I put a set of Gislaved's on my wife's CR-V, and they were amazing tires for the price. Just as good, or better than anything else I've tried in snow and ice.

However, they are not a Winter "performance" tire, so what was acceptable on a CR-V, might be a bit of a handling compromise on a 335. But for the $, you can't beat em.
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^ For RWD, I favor Blizzak WS70 if you drive lots of local roads. If lots of highway, LM60.
good point...

I live in Aurora, and have LM60's. They were fantastic last Winter. Couldn't have been happier with their snow and ice traction, as well as their manners on dry pavement. I do drive a lot of highway, but also local.
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