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      01-20-2021, 03:03 PM   #1
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Run flat or Not run flat ?

My F30 tyres are coming to the end of their life and due for renewal.
I am thinking of moving away from the run flats to standard tyres due to the hard ride, i am wondering who else had taken this step ?
Have you done it, and if so which tyres did you go for ? and does the TPM still work ?

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My F30 tyres are coming to the end of their life and due for renewal.
I am thinking of moving away from the run flats to standard tyres due to the hard ride, i am wondering who else had taken this step ?
Have you done it, and if so which tyres did you go for ? and does the TPM still work ?

Thanks
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Everyone has done this. Go into the wheel and tire section. https://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/fo...play.php?f=423
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Thanks, i had a quick look, many varied opinions i see, but AS4s seem to be the tyre of choice
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Everyone has done this. Go into the wheel and tire section. https://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/fo...play.php?f=423
Thanks thejeremyman9, i will take a look
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I like the Runflats ONLY because it gives me just a bit of peace of mind when the wife is driving my car somewhere. But other than that, I can't appreciate ANYTHING about the Runflats. Price sucks. Ride sucks. Handling sucks. And treadwear is usually horrible (but I have to admit I'm having good luck with the 19" RFT's that came on my 340i).

I will prob change over to Non-RFT's once it's time for some new tread and since I'll be going up a size (235 & 265), it's the perfect time.
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I just replaced my run-flats with Continental DWS06 and there is a big difference in ride quality. My car no longer creaks on every little road imperfection. I do however feel a little disconnected from the road but the comfort these DWS06 provide is much better than Michelins (even the new AS4 non run-flats)
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Just got a flat that cannot be repaired, so need to change my tires. Firestone guy tells me I need to change all 4, is it true? Also, if I go with non run flat, what do we do in case of a flat and no spare?
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Just got a flat that cannot be repaired, so need to change my tires. Firestone guy tells me I need to change all 4, is it true? Also, if I go with non run flat, what do we do in case of a flat and no spare?
Sidewall? Or are they claiming its too close to the edge? Or are they giving a blanket statement they cant plug/patch a RFT? If either of the latter 2, a indy shop should still do it. I got a huge nail very close to the edge of the tread in my stock RFT and got a plug/patch for 20$ from a smaller indy shop when others wouldnt do it. Lasted through burnouts/sliding around and canyon runs until i replaced the tires.

If you go nonrunflat:

1. Carry a patch kit / tire foam [safe for TPMS] / 12v air compressor

2. Get AAA

3. BMW sells a space saver spare (in which case you carry associated tools to change the tire), there's some threads on it in the wheel and tire section.
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Just got a flat that cannot be repaired, so need to change my tires. Firestone guy tells me I need to change all 4, is it true? Also, if I go with non run flat, what do we do in case of a flat and no spare?
If you are AWD this can be true. Your tires need to have the same rolling diameter so as to not place excessive wear n the drivetrain. You can have the new tire shaved to match the rolling diameter.
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Sidewall? Or are they claiming its too close to the edge? Or are they giving a blanket statement they cant plug/patch a RFT? If either of the latter 2, a indy shop should still do it. I got a huge nail very close to the edge of the tread in my stock RFT and got a plug/patch for 20$ from a smaller indy shop when others wouldnt do it. Lasted through burnouts/sliding around and canyon runs until i replaced the tires.

If you go nonrunflat:

1. Carry a patch kit / tire foam [safe for TPMS] / 12v air compressor

2. Get AAA

3. BMW sells a space saver spare (in which case you carry associated tools to change the tire), there's some threads on it in the wheel and tire section.
He just said - "due to the location of the puncture". I do see a huge nail which isnt too close to the edge and I am surprised they couldnt fix it.
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He just said - "due to the location of the puncture". I do see a huge nail which isnt too close to the edge and I am surprised they couldnt fix it.
I bet you a smaller indy shop will do it as i was told the same thing - BMW said they wouldn't repair a RFT at all, and most chain tire shops said mine was too close to the sidewall. The 20$ i paid was to take the wheel and tire off, remove tire from wheel, put the plug/patch from the inside (proper way), remount tire, rebalance, and reinstall on car. It's an option if you have quite a bit of tread left and want to finish off the RFT while doing research on your next set.

I attached a picture below of what mine looked like. My tires had <1k miles on them when it happened, and the RFT are excessively expensive, so i had it repaired and drove about 8k miles before replacing all 4.

I have a thread here about replacing with PS4S. https://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...5#post25578475
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He just said - "due to the location of the puncture". I do see a huge nail which isnt too close to the edge and I am surprised they couldnt fix it.
Sounds like Firestone is trying to up-sell you, why make $20 on a plug and patch when you can get $1000 on four new tires.
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If you are AWD this can be true. Your tires need to have the same rolling diameter so as to not place excessive wear n the drivetrain. You can have the new tire shaved to match the rolling diameter.
We need to know how many miles on the tires. I had a tire replaced on my AWD SUV. 17,000 miles. 1 tire replaced. No problems. The dealer never tried to sell me an extra tire. Let alone 3. Replacing all 3 others is over kill.
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I drove 50mph on this for miles on a highway. When I got home to put air in it and plug it, I knew it wasn't going to work.

It was a perfectly competent ride, though I kept to 50. Could not believe what I was able to drive on.

That was the Conti runflat--saved me a lot of headache when I didn't need it...got a Pirelli runflat for cheap on tirerack.

I'm not racing anyone; I'm faster than most, don't need to be faster than everyone. I'm old, live in NJ--the pothole and garden state...nice to know I'm secure within a 50 mile radius...and I'd bet it's more on a blown runflat.
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We need to know how many miles on the tires. I had a tire replaced on my AWD SUV. 17,000 miles. 1 tire replaced. No problems. The dealer never tried to sell me an extra tire. Let alone 3. Replacing all 3 others is over kill.
Yup, all depends on the wear. That's why I said it can be true.
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I drove 50mph on this for miles on a highway. When I got home to put air in it and plug it, I knew it wasn't going to work.

It was a perfectly competent ride, though I kept to 50. Could not believe what I was able to drive on.

That was the Conti runflat--saved me a lot of headache when I didn't need it...got a Pirelli runflat for cheap on tirerack.

I'm not racing anyone; I'm faster than most, don't need to be faster than everyone. I'm old, live in NJ--the pothole and garden state...nice to know I'm secure within a 50 mile radius...and I'd bet it's more on a blown runflat.
Give me some duct tape ill patch that right up.

Kidding, but yeah, runflats definitely work. I drove flat on my old ones around city streets to get to the tire shop and it felt completely normal. And the piece of mind is more important to some than maximum performance/comfort of non RFT. Nothing against runflats, its more a personal decision.
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Give me some duct tape ill patch that right up.

Kidding, but yeah, runflats definitely work. I drove flat on my old ones around city streets to get to the tire shop and it felt completely normal. And the piece of mind is more important to some than maximum performance/comfort of non RFT. Nothing against runflats, its more a personal decision.
...if I ever go on a long, long trip, I'd still want a spare...but bmw wanted its epa mpg rating. And, I wish I had non-runflats, but I'm on the Turnpike regularly...in NYC...don't want to deal with it.

I honestly wouldn't notice a difference--I am not close to the limits of this thing and won't ever be but on a dragstrip...and we have lots of those in NJ...all free-ish--rolling out of the many tollbooths, I can often get up to the speed limit-ish quickly and legally...and then 2 secs. later the thrill is gone.
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He just said - "due to the location of the puncture". I do see a huge nail which isnt too close to the edge and I am surprised they couldnt fix it.
Depends. I had a nail go through one of my tires that bounced off the rim and out near the bead. If it's something like that, then it's non-fixable.

If it isn't, then they are trying to give you the shaft.
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