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Same with me, a poor ride is about the only thing that I'd struggle to tolerate on any car. If it wasn't for both Autogefuhl and What Car mentioning that I'd probably have hit order. Still tempted.
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But them some people buy M Sport BMW's on 20-inch rims and runflats and claim ride is not an issue
Views on ride is always a personal thing, to some, it matters others are prepared to put up with higher levels of bump thump. The same happens on the Macan forum where some are happy with a Macan on 21's wheels and no adaptive/PASM suspension, some say a Macan on 21's needs Air and PASM suspension and at the other extreme some like 18 wheels PASM and air suspension |
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Perhaps I'm looking at it the wrong way but to my mind having lots of destination charging is treating a symptom when really the solution is to fix the problem (i.e. the relatively poor range of most EV's). |
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The most I have seen at any "destination" hotel is 4 chargers |
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Got my nephews coming up to stay for a week just before Xmas - considering a Tesla test drive just to see what it's like with a BEV and something different for the nephews.
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if green cars eventually have 500 plus mile ranges batteries get lighter etc and most people charge from home what's the point in building a vast charging point infrastructure.
Perhaps we promote innovation ie if no superchargers ionity etc manufacturers will innovative to create cars that will drive much longer distances cleaner tech n fuel. Hence waiting and watching to see how this cat n mouse game pans out. |
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Might be wrong but I think we'll see some significant improvements in battery technology and EV ranges over the next 5 to 10 years; if and when cars like (say) Tesla Model 3's are able to match the range as well as the performance of (say) M340d's that will be a game changer for EV's IMO. |
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Battery technology has plateaued, the Model 3/Y have no bigger/lighter batteries than the S that came out in 2011. Infact the latest Plaid S is still using the same cell technology as the 2011 cars. What is becoming quite obvious with EVs is as mass adoption speeds up incentives are rapidly disappearing and fuel costs going up. I've had x3 EV chargers fitted for free at 3 different properties through government incentives, I received to the tune of £15k worth of 'rewards' from Tesla essentially for been an early adopter - Powerwall, 22inch wheels, mini Tesla. Even the actual cost of the cars have gone up, not forgetting my car has 'free for life' Supercharging and connectivity. After 65k miles, trips all over the UK, and to France in EVs, the technology is already more than good enough. Next year we'll be heading to just south of the Arctic circle with 6 people in the EV. The Model Y has more than enough range, performance, utility for most families. The cost is a much bigger issue than the technology. |
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I do take your point about if you wait for the "best" you'll never buy anything but, as has been suggested on a number of other threads, EV technology is as poor as it's ever going to be and personally I'll be surprised if, with more manufacturers entering the fray, competition doesn't result in some improvements. So personally I'm content to stick with my ICE car for now and wait and see how things develop; I might well think differently if I was still a company car driver with BIK costs to consider but I'm not.... |
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I think if it's going to be the main car, then 250+ real world miles (ie, in the winter, crap weather) is a must. I can think of a number of times year before last when we did that journey, either in one hit, or there and back with a stop in the middle.
The stop in the middle is key, though, as mentioned with Alton Towers (one of the places we went to). We often do 100 + miles, spend the day, then back again. If at places that are all day destinations they have a large number of 3kw / 7kw chargers, then range is less of an issue. These places don't all need super chargers, just enough for people to plug in, top up, then get home again. Of course the cost of this sort of thing isn't cheap, but a bit more joined up thinking..... Back to the Y, and yes, from an EV point of view is good enough, if you can get passed the looks and interior, but as has been said, that's a high entry point price wise |
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I remember moving from landline to mobiles and how battery weight and size kept improving a great deal in mobiles and a 10 year period would cause such major improvements. I don't think it's unfair to expect the Same from car batteries. It doesn't mean one should wait 10 years if ones current circumstances financial or otherwise suit ev use equally if it doesn't it won't hurt to wait a wee while. |
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Not knocking it, it's human nature. Just found it very interesting and illuminating. (One reason I am happy with LR is sort of from an incentive perspective. Rejection of my first car meant that 12 months in a £80k list car cost me less than £3k. Or to put it into incentive terms, as the paperwork shows, they injected an extra £17.7k into the deal for the replacement on top of the prevailing discount).
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