[JustChris]

Originally Posted by DougMcL

May I suggest that before anyone buys a Tesla of any description, they should take out a trial subscription to the consumer association's magazine, Which? Reliability ratings etc are based on member feedback and most models are "Don't Buys". Until build and reliability issues are sorted out, I would never buy one. I am sure though that they are great to drive.

Yes that's a challenge at times, but largely if you know some detail it gets better.

Most of the feedback will be based on US made M3s which seemed to be a bit naff at times.

Ironically the made in China ones are unanimously praised.

A fair few unhappy 911 992 owners on Rennlist so nothing is perfect but I do agree that personally I would not entertain a new model or first year build Tesla.


As for looks form a few other posters comments. I'm not sure BMW come out of this well sadly

[KRS_SN]

@JustChris
if it is a contest to be ugly bmw won hands down.

[sahajesh]

BMW wins that one - the Tesla looks like a grandad with his false teeth taken out.

[HighlandPete]

The Tesla M3 in the picture above, reminds me of the cheap plastic model cars we got in the 1960s, "made in Hong Kong".

[Sennen]

Originally Posted by sahajesh

BMW wins that one - the Tesla looks like a grandad with his false teeth taken out.

I think you have hit the nail firmly on the head there Sahajesh

Bloody awful looking things especially in white which most of them seem to be.

[isleaiw1]

I hated the Model 3 when it first came out, but now I am surrounded by them all the time I like the looks. There is a grey Performance model near me that I think looks way better than most BMWs

If we only bought on looks though, everyone would be driving S5 or RS5 sportbacks (in my opinion).....

And beauty is in the eye of the beholder!

[sahajesh]

Originally Posted by isleaiw1

I hated the Model 3 when it first came out, but now I am surrounded by them all the time I like the looks. There is a grey Performance model near me that I think looks way better than most BMWs

If we only bought on looks though, everyone would be driving S5 or RS5 sportbacks (in my opinion).....

And beauty is in the eye of the beholder!

What if the beholder is Stevie Wonder?

[sahajesh]

Originally Posted by Sennen

I think you have hit the nail firmly on the head there Sahajesh

Bloody awful looking things especially in white which most of them seem to be.

Especially in white, agree.

People get them for tax reasons, saving a ton of cash and will somehow accept it in Zanussi white :

[ArthurKing]

Originally Posted by JustChris

Yes that's a challenge at times, but largely if you know some detail it gets better.

Most of the feedback will be based on US made M3s which seemed to be a bit naff at times.

Ironically the made in China ones are unanimously praised.

A fair few unhappy 911 992 owners on Rennlist so nothing is perfect but I do agree that personally I would not entertain a new model or first year build Tesla.


As for looks form a few other posters comments. I'm not sure BMW come out of this well sadly

Looks are subjective as I would take the BMW over the Tesla in the looks department every day of the week and twice on Sundays.

Fuel still an issue where we are in Kent, just popped to the Tip and passed 4 petrol garages, all closed with no fuel. The extra deliveries have clearly not filtered through yet.

Currently have 1/2 a tank but I use half a tank most weeks so I will be trying to fill out before I hit the 1/4 mark to make sure I am not scrambling round on fumes. Assumed it would all be over by now but it seems not

[isleaiw1]

Originally Posted by sahajesh

Especially in white, agree.

People get them for tax reasons, saving a ton of cash and will somehow accept it in Zanussi white :

Nothing wrong with white cars......

Buy what you like, and accept the right of others to pick what they like.

(and lets be honest, some people dont really like cars but do like money, madness I know...)

[isleaiw1]

Originally Posted by ArthurKing

Looks are subjective as I would take the BMW over the Tesla in the looks department every day of the week and twice on Sundays.

Fuel still an issue where we are in Kent, just popped to the Tip and passed 4 petrol garages, all closed with no fuel. The extra deliveries have clearly not filtered through yet.

Currently have 1/2 a tank but I use half a tank most weeks so I will be trying to fill out before I hit the 1/4 mark to make sure I am not scrambling round on fumes. Assumed it would all be over by now but it seems not

Seems a bit better in Hemel today (which is nice) - so now I have some fuel in one car at least and ok for another week!

[dazzapb]

West London seems ok no queues for Tesco twicks and others now but don't tell the media as it might kill their story

[TodmordenLad]

Everything appears to be back to normal in West Cornwall from what I can see - all.pumps open and in use, with no queues. A stark contract with the situation at home in SE London where things are showing little sign of stabilizing, according to friends and neighbours.

[ArthurKing]

Originally Posted by TodmordenLad

Everything appears to be back to normal in West Cornwall from what I can see - all.pumps open and in use, with no queues. A stark contract with the situation at home in SE London where things are showing little sign of stabilizing, according to friends and neighbours.

First time since this kicked off that I have seen the services on the M2 near Medway/Gravesend not have a 30 car queue at 05:30 in the morning.

£35 limit but got me back to 3/4 of a tank and saved me having to hunt round and sit in a queue for 30 minutes on the weekend.

[DaveA]

I drove down to London yesterday from the NE and everywhere on the way looked open and… no queues… even the couple of stations I passed when I got here…

Prices seem to have bumped a little and the cost of vPower at the shell stations (compared to regular) is shocking all over…. Will be sticking to my Tesco 99 as far as possible…

Eco-Pro and ACC combined helped bump the economy nicely…

[mikeoz]

Big Tesco near me seems normal now. One or two pumps had things over them but rest ok and no queuing.

[Nibbles]

Went out for the first time in 10 days after my isolation was finished. Still no fuel at the two closest petrol stations. Might just hibernate for the winter and see what 2022 brings.

[KRS_SN]

local esso out of diesel. ok for petrol. went to costco fuelled up full no queues either and £1.32 premium diesel. Ok for another 550 miles.

[sahajesh]

No problems here in Sheffield at multiple stations nor in Edinburgh when was there recently.

[Abzynthe]

Seems to be calming down in Peterborough.
Big Tesco and a local Esso both had Diesel, so the Mrs could fill up again.

[RobUK]

Could someone tell the residents of Sussex that the panic is over please! That was an hour ago.

[MY340i]

still haven't fueled up since shortages started.