[paimon.soror]

Originally Posted by zvery777

Did you figure out your audio for calls? My caller said I sound far and they hear themselves. Trying to figure out what settings I need to change.

Nope, i ended up reenabling my car Bluetooth for phone calls.

[zvery777]

Originally Posted by paimon.soror

Nope, i ended up reenabling my car Bluetooth for phone calls.

Does it interfere with the MMI at all? Can the phone be connected to both? (MMI and car Bluetooth)

[WhiteRedSport]

Ok everyone! After months of lurking this gigantic post, I finally got around to doing this myself!

I have a 2018 440i xDrive with ID6 EVO and I got the RoadTop unit.

The problem I have is that I cannot get the HK hack working for the life of me.

I connected my phone to the iDrive BT and have it as "audio" and "calls". I have my phone connected to the MMI box and only have it set to "calls". I enabled the "Use Car BT" option in the MMI box.

I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong...

I enabled AUX using Bimmercode, so I have a way of getting audio through, but I can't get the HK hack working where the audio is through the car BT.

Please, any help or suggestions?

[Paul0417]

Originally Posted by eunzaro

Hello, I have an andream MMI installed, working very well, I just changed the screen for one of 8.8. The letters in Android auto look small, is there a way to encode the size??

You can change the dip switch to change the size of the screen.

[paimon.soror]

Originally Posted by zvery777

Does it interfere with the MMI at all? Can the phone be connected to both? (MMI and car Bluetooth)

No interference that I have seen. I also disabled phone permission from Android Auto.

The only thing that happens is when i answer a phone call from the idrive, Android auto will pop a warning saying that "i need to enable phone permissions"

[WhiteRedSport]

Originally Posted by suremang

Yeah I've tried playing around with my phone and in the MMI settings and I don't think I can play music or any other multimedia source through the OEM BT while Android Auto is running. I don't have an iphone so I cant utilize carplay... Not sure if there's a workaround for this.

Have you been able to figure this one out? If I keep my iDrive on my phone BT mode, then I get no sound. If I keep my iDrive on AUX, then I do get audio through. Is there a way to use Android Auto while keeping the iDrive setting on my phone bluetooth?

[WhiteRedSport]

After quite a lot of reading, I am now figuring out that the HK hack that let's you connect your phone to iDrive BT for music and calls while also connecting to MMI for calls + having the "Use Car's Phone BT" option turned on does NOT work for ID6/NBT EVO.

Super disappointing...

Using the AUX method means I can't use my steering scroll wheel to change tracks. There's a huge message that appears on my HUD that the function is not available because I'm in AUX mode.

[FoxCrane]

I'm considering buying the Andream MMI (NBT version) for my F48 2017 X1; I see it's on sale for $235 on their website.

Someone (several pages back) mentioned there may be a new version coming out with BT connection for audio (vs the aux now), which may be worth the wait if the audio is better (I also have HK).

Does anyone have any information or heard any similar rumors?

[zvery777]

Originally Posted by WhiteRedSport

After quite a lot of reading, I am now figuring out that the HK hack that let's you connect your phone to iDrive BT for music and calls while also connecting to MMI for calls + having the "Use Car's Phone BT" option turned on does NOT work for ID6/NBT EVO.

Super disappointing...

Using the AUX method means I can't use my steering scroll wheel to change tracks. There's a huge message that appears on my HUD that the function is not available because I'm in AUX mode.

Does it work on NBT? Mind sharing what this hack is and how to set it up? Thank you

[Jenly Tang]

Originally Posted by FoxCrane

I'm considering buying the Andream MMI (NBT version) for my F48 2017 X1; I see it's on sale for $235 on their website.

Someone (several pages back) mentioned there may be a new version coming out with BT connection for audio (vs the aux now), which may be worth the wait if the audio is better (I also have HK).

Does anyone have any information or heard any similar rumors?

Hello my friend,

As for the Bluetooth audio output module, it is currently only used for EVO and Mercedes-Benz NTG5.X, and according to our previous test results, its effect is not very good, and there are still some compatibility issues.
If your car is an NBT system, then you can choose to buy the "with HDMI" version, the effect is very good, and the function is relatively stable, if you think the price is still too expensive, you can contact their customer service to get a discount code.
BMW NBT still outputs sound through the AUX of the original car.

[FoxCrane]

Originally Posted by Jenly Tang

Hello my friend,

As for the Bluetooth audio output module, it is currently only used for EVO and Mercedes-Benz NTG5.X, and according to our previous test results, its effect is not very good, and there are still some compatibility issues.
If your car is an NBT system, then you can choose to buy the "with HDMI" version, the effect is very good, and the function is relatively stable, if you think the price is still too expensive, you can contact their customer service to get a discount code.
BMW NBT still outputs sound through the AUX of the original car.

Does the hdmi version produce better audio from CarPlay? Wouldn’t the Audi still come through the aux connection?

[pRoxxxDD]

Does anyone know how to connect or dump the system(uart/telnet/ssh)? Does anyone know what is conn7 (4pins) on PCB?

[WhiteRedSport]

Originally Posted by zvery777

Does it work on NBT? Mind sharing what this hack is and how to set it up? Thank you

So the hack is simply connecting your phone to your iDrive BT and having it set to play calls and audio/music. In the meanwhile, keep your phone also connected to the MMI box as calls only. Then, in the MMI box, turn on the option "Using Car Phone's BT", which allows the MMI to route calls through the OEM/iDrive BT. Lastly, set your iDrive to AUX mode.

Now, the benefit of this is that even while in AUX mode, you still retain Harman Kardon Logic 7 and all that, which produces higher quality output. This all works across NBT and EVO.

Here's where things get interesting:

Some people report that they can simply switch over their iDrive to BT mode and still get music out of their car. This is possible ONLY on Carplay and NOT Android Auto and this allows you to use your steering scroll wheel to change tracks, which you cannot do on AUX mode. Some people claim they can do it even on AUX, and I believe that's an NBT only thing and not EVO, but your results may vary. It never worked on my EVO.

The reason for some of this weird stuff is because of the difference between Android Auto and Apple Carplay. In Android Auto, every bit of audio transmitted from your phone is completely routed through and ONLY through Android Auto WiFi connection. So even if you connect to a BT device (like your car's iDrive), you'll get no audio out of that BT device since all the audio is still being pushed through AA WiFi.

On Carplay, however, you can split those audio sources. So for that reason, some people here can happily use Carplay but use their iDrive BT to listen to music and all that. The HK hack that people confuse this functionality for is simply getting Harman Kardon through AUX. Switching their phone to transmit their audio over the iDrive BT isn't the HK hack.

Ok, so for AA users on NBT or NBT Evo, there is one solution to allow for using your iDrive BT for music, retaining steering scroll wheel track selection controls and playing music in a completely OEM BT way. This has no relation to any HK hack because we're not even bothering with AUX here. Anyway, the one and ONLY solution is the AAWireless dongle that you plug into the MMI box USB port to mimick wired AA. And then you connect your phone to the AAWireless dongle and you'll have wireless AA through that dongle. Why does this work? Because the AAWireless app has a function called "disable Audio sink", which is what finally splits audio away from WiFi only on Android Auto, letting you connect it directly to iDrive BT. The catch is that this dongle is $80. Another added benefit though is a much smoother Android Auto experience akin to a wired connection.

I spent the money and set it all up. Now I have pure OEM BT music, smooth Android Auto, track selection still visible on my HUD and controllable through my scroll wheel all on my NBT EVO ID6. My MMI box is RoadTop BTW.

Whew, what an insane rabbit hole to solve this issue.

[VladNata]

Originally Posted by pRoxxxDD

Does anyone know how to connect or dump the system(uart/telnet/ssh)? Does anyone know what is conn7 (4pins) on PCB?

Which one is UART?

[zvery777]

Originally Posted by WhiteRedSport

So the hack is simply connecting your phone to your iDrive BT and having it set to play calls and audio/music. In the meanwhile, keep your phone also connected to the MMI box as calls only. Then, in the MMI box, turn on the option "Using Car Phone's BT", which allows the MMI to route calls through the OEM/iDrive BT. Lastly, set your iDrive to AUX mode.

Now, the benefit of this is that even while in AUX mode, you still retain Harman Kardon Logic 7 and all that, which produces higher quality output. This all works across NBT and EVO.

Here's where things get interesting:

Some people report that they can simply switch over their iDrive to BT mode and still get music out of their car. This is possible ONLY on Carplay and NOT Android Auto and this allows you to use your steering scroll wheel to change tracks, which you cannot do on AUX mode. Some people claim they can do it even on AUX, and I believe that's an NBT only thing and not EVO, but your results may vary. It never worked on my EVO.

The reason for some of this weird stuff is because of the difference between Android Auto and Apple Carplay. In Android Auto, every bit of audio transmitted from your phone is completely routed through and ONLY through Android Auto WiFi connection. So even if you connect to a BT device (like your car's iDrive), you'll get no audio out of that BT device since all the audio is still being pushed through AA WiFi.

On Carplay, however, you can split those audio sources. So for that reason, some people here can happily use Carplay but use their iDrive BT to listen to music and [...]

Holy crap, what a mess. Appreciate all the explaining tho! My MMI box (Andream) does not have the option to let me select Use Car BT; however, my music sound is very close to the HK. My issue is that on a call I only hear from the front speaker and the caller has issues hearing me sometimes, that is something I would like to improve for sure. I use AA btw. Would that dongle just solve the music audio or call issues do you know?

[AdrianE2]

Originally Posted by zvery777

...My MMI box (Andream) does not have the option to let me select Use Car BT;...

Strange, do you have the latest software? Using the car BT for calls solved my call quality issues which sound similar to yours.

[zvery777]

Originally Posted by AdrianE2

Strange, do you have the latest software? Using the car BT for calls solved my call quality issues which sound similar to yours.

I just purchased the item a few weeks ago and would think it has the latest software. Is there a specific sequence to pair to Bluetooth? Meaning MMI box first and then the car or the other way around. I initially had it only connected to the MMI Bluetooth but paired to the car yesterday after reading some info here.

[WhiteRedSport]

Originally Posted by zvery777

Holy crap, what a mess. Appreciate all the explaining tho! My MMI box (Andream) does not have the option to let me select Use Car BT; however, my music sound is very close to the HK. My issue is that on a call I only hear from the front speaker and the caller has issues hearing me sometimes, that is something I would like to improve for sure. I use AA btw. Would that dongle just solve the music audio or call issues do you know?

I'm not sure about calls, sorry. I think it's all about what Mic your phone calls are using for how the caller hears you, but about the speaker stuff I think the AAWireless dongle might fix that. One reason for weird speaker issues could be that the AUX connection you have (internal or external) has issues and using the AAWireless dongle, you can skip AUX altogether and use your car BT.

I would say it's worth a shot? You can always return the dongle if you buy it off Amazon and you don't like it or it doesn't solve your problem. Remember that the dongle needs to plug into the MMI box USB port for it to work!

[WhiteRedSport]

Realizing that I'm sounding like a bit of a shill for AAWireless lol. It by no means is cost effective and is only something to pursue to get from 95% functionality to 99%. Our MMI boxes all have wireless built-in, so the main purpose of this dongle is completely useless too. I just use for "Audio Sink".

Anyway, yeah. Hopefully this thing won't crap out on me because I paid a total of $400 between the MMI box and the dongle.

[zvery777]

Originally Posted by WhiteRedSport

I'm not sure about calls, sorry. I think it's all about what Mic your phone calls are using for how the caller hears you, but about the speaker stuff I think the AAWireless dongle might fix that. One reason for weird speaker issues could be that the AUX connection you have (internal or external) has issues and using the AAWireless dongle, you can skip AUX altogether and use your car BT.

I would say it's worth a shot? You can always return the dongle if you buy it off Amazon and you don't like it or it doesn't solve your problem. Remember that the dongle needs to plug into the MMI box USB port for it to work!

That's true, I might give it a shot. Do you have a link or name for the dongle?

[WhiteRedSport]

Originally Posted by zvery777

That's true, I might give it a shot. Do you have a link or name for the dongle?

"AAWireless"

Should be easy to find on Amazon!

[moghm]

Guys anyone got the new waze update? Its impossible for user to exit waze menu options. Focus remains within waze and i can't get back to the menu and icons of android auto via scroll wheel. This was not an issue prior to recent update. Right pain.