[TheVoiceOfReason]

Originally Posted by Mako

of course unless they change the NAV screen I refuse to buy the new 3 series Hoping the X4 (X4M) has a similar NAV setup to the X3, then I will get that instead of a M3 (hate the added weight but that screen would drive me nuts).

This logic appals me.

You are buying a car based on it's NAV screen?


BestBuy is down the street, bud.

[BLKBullet]

Very impressive. The gap between a 28 and 35 has certainly been made smaller. let's see what BMW does next.

[Michael Schott]

Originally Posted by TheVoiceOfReason

This logic appals me.

You are buying a car based on it's NAV screen?


BestBuy is down the street, bud.

I've learned that people can be very picky when making decisions on expensive purchases. I personally think it's strange to be this picky but it's a personal decision.

[e92miami]

Originally Posted by 3PedalMINI

thats impressive, especially out of an I4. I cannot wait to see the coupe, the front end of the car is so aggressive looking. Ill have to drive one but i see no reason to pay the 7k for the 335. Im sure there is a ton more power the I4 could produce and the tuners will have a hayday playing around with it. anyguess? 300whp with a tune?

The only thing that is going to suck is the engine note, especially if an exhaust is added. I would actually rally against an exhaust system for a 4 banger bimmer

as far as audi goes, the new refresh of the a4/a5's and s lines are hidious and have chick written all over them. What a waste of a gorgeous design. IMO audi is going to take all the e90 chicks and BMW will get the men back with the f30/f32. i know a few people that wont buy a e90 bmw because all you see driving them are chicks.

IMO it shouldnt matter, you should buy the car for what it is and how it handles not for the stereotype. Audi IMO isnt running scared, i think its the other way around. 528 cannot run against the new A6.

Its only about 3k for the 6cyl, if you do the same setup with the features like lights and sunroof.

[e92miami]

They need this test done with the faster auto transmission

[BMWinGE]

Originally Posted by kardboard

A more likely situation would be the introduction of a newer model, which I believe we would most likely see this in the 4 series only (640i being my only reason to believe so).

I've been thinking all along that the 335i would get a power bump when the 4er comes out but your point might actually make more sense. Seems like I remember reading that with the E90, BMW wanted another performance model between the 335i and M3, hence the 335is. So instead of 3 gas models, there would be 4 (328, 335i, 3XXi, M3). I could see that.

[DoD74]

Originally Posted by thatsagoodpoint

Infiniti, Audi, and Mercedes are scared...
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They never really stood a chance IMHO.

Agreed!

[rkr335i]

Can anyone see an added bonus of getting the 335i over the 328i? I6 growl vs good performance and great MPG!!! I don't know which to get. I test drove both and still no idea.

[Mako]

Originally Posted by TheVoiceOfReason

This logic appals me.

You are buying a car based on it's NAV screen?


BestBuy is down the street, bud.

yes, if I am spending $70K-$75K on a car, it better not have anything that I can't live with and I wouldn't spend that much money on a car and not get navigation, plus I think you get that screen even if you don't get navigation because other features like idrive audio and settings are displayed on it. Obviously my decision to buy a car isn't based on the NAV screen but that is one aspect that can sway me away from a car. I don't understand what best buy would have to do with it, so I can get an even uglier windshield mounted NAV screen? My point is that NAV is pretty standard on any upper end cars now, almost any car priced at $60K or more has it standard, and this is a brand new 3 series design, how could they not incorporate it better into the dash? the 5 series, 7 series, SUVs all do a nice job of it, why not the 3 series?

[WWM3]

Originally Posted by e92miami

They need this test done with the faster auto transmission

I believe I read the manual is supposed to be quicker per BMW, but I could be reversing that.

[Jason]

Originally Posted by e92miami

They need this test done with the faster auto transmission

Originally Posted by WW330

I believe I read the manual is supposed to be quicker per BMW, but I could be reversing that.

That's correct.

See official specs @ http://www.f30post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=592598

The 328i is quoted by BMW as: 0-60mph in 5.9s [auto] / 5.7 [manual]

[jbres79]

Why is there no 335 reviews like this or any dyno's yet for 335? Everything i see is 328.

[respectBMW]

Originally Posted by numba1guju

they are always scared hence the ads they produce cappin on bmw lol

[7or8]

Nice performance numbers

Originally Posted by Mako

..how could they not incorporate it better into the dash? the 5 series, 7 series, SUVs all do a nice job of it, why not the 3 series?

I can understand the Nav screen sitting up there isn't your cup of tea. Your not going to like then, that bmw is moving toward this design for other cars in their lineup. The new m6 has a similar design. The spy shots of the new x5..same thing..even bigger..lol. I'm sure as new models come out they'll incorporate the same design. Seems like this is the styling direction for this generation of bmw. Personally, I find it attractive and modern..just my personal preference.

Spy pic of new x5:

[iwannabimmer]

Originally Posted by e92miami

Its only about 3k for the 6cyl, if you do the same setup with the features like lights and sunroof.

To be precise the difference between similarly equipped 328i and 335i is $3,355 (MSRP prices) or $3,125 (invoice prices) - includes heated front seats and sport auto. This results in around $60 difference in monthly payments. Add another $10-$15 per month for gas. The interesting part would be if there is difference in insurance rates and how much.

[3PedalMINI]

Originally Posted by iwannabimmer

To be precise the difference between similarly equipped 328i and 335i is $3,355 (MSRP prices) or $3,125 (invoice prices) - includes heated front seats and sport auto. This results in around $60 difference in monthly payments. Add another $10-$15 per month for gas. The interesting part would be if there is difference in insurance rates and how much.

you guys are right, NOT 7k

IDK, im watching closely, i cannot wait to see what the tuners can do with this. for only 60 bucks a month i might just have to go with the 335 for the engine note

[7or8]

Funny when watching the slalom test of the F30 in that video and then noticing the Porsche (at the end of the video) going through the slalom. F30 had a lot of body roll, Porsche had almost none (to be expected, of course). Hoping the stiffer roll bars that'll be on the m-sport package help us out here..

[Memphis1]

isn't the 335i with the M package supposed to have a power bump??

[Jason]

Originally Posted by Memphis1

isn't the 335i with the M package supposed to have a power bump??

Nope.

M Sport package info @ http://www.f30post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=628998

[justinnum1]

Originally Posted by fusion01

Huh? My 135i according to Car & Driver clocks 4.7 secs vs 5.9 (poss ~5.6 in tests?) - WORTH THE FUEL BURN

PLease tell me your not comapring a N54 1 series to N55 F30...huge difference there besides 200 lbs and probably 25 horses(not to mention the N55 F30 has been clocked at 5.3 by one mag)

[Thud]

Originally Posted by jbres79

Why is there no 335 reviews like this or any dyno's yet for 335? Everything i see is 328.

I think because the n55 is already pretty well reviewed at this point- but the N20 has all the buzz.

[Fzara2000]

Originally Posted by Mako

Mercedes has always had a different market, not really performance driven (accept their AMG buyers) but they have always been way behind with performance on normal models, their engines just flat out suck!

Uhhhh the C63 AMG is a 6.2L supercharged BEAST
I don't know what engine you're talking about