[Kri]

Originally Posted by addikt

Anyone else have an imperfect connection like in the attached? That is, is this normal?

I and a friend had the same issue, the chinese Quadlock clamp is just crap.
I ended up removing the clamp and plugging in the Quadlock without it, until now it`s still plugged in well.

Chri

[RedErik]

Guys, I've been following this topic for some time now. I didn't order my unit yet as I'm in the process of finding out who is actually manufacturing these and trying to get in touch with these people direct. It has been difficult so far and I have not much to report. I thought that NaviFly would be able to provide some more light, but when I asked for full android ROM they replied "no support give the the source". Dead end I guess... I'm trying to modify kswplauncher.apk but it would be really handy to have the full ROM and run it in "virtual machine" just to test things. I'm working on some layouts, custom graphics and corrections to translation. So far I have been successful with graphic, found source of some of the texts that are appearing here are there, and now I'm trying take apart these layouts... not the easiest thing for an android studio noob.

Anyway, if any of you would like to have some custom graphics made, I might be able to help with - at least I can do that for community.

I've been also toying with an idea of redesigning the screen itself - the plastic bit I mean. It's all good for you guys with tablet like screen where all is accessible, but for us with E60/E63/E90, these cars were never designed to have touchscreens so it is all recessed and hard to operate will driving. I'm thinking of designing a fully 3d printable face plate that will bring the screen to front. That would require taking off the original screen frame and voiding warranty (if there is any). I can do it for E63 but I'm not sure how this would apply to E60 and E90. Did anyone of you thought about that?

[koutsouk]

Originally Posted by RedErik

Guys, I've been following this topic for some time now. I didn't order my unit yet as I'm in the process of finding out who is actually manufacturing these and trying to get in touch with these people direct. It has been difficult so far and I have not much to report. I thought that NaviFly would be able to provide some more light, but when I asked for full android ROM they replied "no support give the the source". Dead end I guess... I'm trying to modify kswplauncher.apk but it would be really handy to have the full ROM and run it in "virtual machine" just to test things. I'm working on some layouts, custom graphics and corrections to translation. So far I have been successful with graphic, found source of some of the texts that are appearing here are there, and now I'm trying take apart these layouts... not the easiest thing for an android studio noob.

Anyway, if any of you would like to have some custom graphics made, I might be able to help with - at least I can do that for community.

I've been also toying with an idea of redesigning the screen itself - the plastic bit I mean. It's all good for you guys with tablet like screen where all is accessible, but for us with E60/E63/E90, these cars were never designed to have touchscreens so it is all recessed and hard to operate will driving. I'm thinking of designing a fully 3d printable face plate that will bring the screen to front. That would require taking off the original screen frame and voiding warranty (if there is any). I can do it for E63 but I'm not sure how this would apply to E60 and E90. Did anyone of you thought about that?

Well this is a good solution for us.
I own an E60 and is really difficult to use touch screen.
If you need any measurements for E60 i am willing to help.

[Kri]

Originally Posted by RedErik

Guys, I've been following this topic for some time now. I didn't order my unit yet as I'm in the process of finding out who is actually manufacturing these and trying to get in touch with these people direct. It has been difficult so far and I have not much to report. I thought that NaviFly would be able to provide some more light, but when I asked for full android ROM they replied "no support give the the source". Dead end I guess... I'm trying to modify kswplauncher.apk but it would be really handy to have the full ROM and run it in "virtual machine" just to test things. I'm working on some layouts, custom graphics and corrections to translation. So far I have been successful with graphic, found source of some of the texts that are appearing here are there, and now I'm trying take apart these layouts... not the easiest thing for an android studio noob.

Anyway, if any of you would like to have some custom graphics made, I might be able to help with - at least I can do that for community.

I've been also toying with an idea of redesigning the screen itself - the plastic bit I mean. It's all good for you guys with tablet like screen where all is accessible, but for us with E60/E63/E90, these cars were never designed to have touchscreens so it is all recessed and hard to operate will driving. I'm thinking of designing a fully 3d printable face plate that will bring the screen to front. That would require taking off the original screen frame and voiding warranty (if there is any). I can do it for E63 but I'm not sure how this would apply to E60 and E90. Did anyone of you thought about that?

I have the suspicion that MEKEDE may be (one of) the main manufacturer.

Is it not possible to run the OTA Update ? as it also has a boot.img within ?
for me it seem`s its a full image, but i`m not that android specialist.

to the 3D printed, i`m just doing the same at my E87, i`m using a E90 display for that
It`s alot of work , but may be less on your E63 as you have a surrounding and maybe a 10.25" will fit there.

Chri

[RedErik]

Originally Posted by koutsouk

Well this is a good solution for us.
I own an E60 and is really difficult to use touch screen.
If you need any measurements for E60 i am willing to help.

I will do a quick cardboard mock-up, take some pictures and measurements, make a pdf or something so you can print that out, cut and see if that fits for E60 as well. Should have this ready later on this afternoon. From there I can start modeling a new frame.

[RedErik]

Originally Posted by Kri

I have the suspicion that MEKEDE may be (one of) the main manufacturer.

Is it not possible to run the OTA Update ? as it also has a boot.img within ?
for me it seem`s its a full image, but i`m not that android specialist.

to the 3D printed, i`m just doing the same at my E87, i`m using a E90 dipslay for that
It`s alot of work , but may be less on your E63 as you have a surrounding and maybe a 10.25" will fit there.

Chri

Nice work I never thought of installing 10.25" instead of 8.8" but it might just work, will check. Do you have exact dimensions of 10.25" screen? That would help.

As for OTA file... as I said - NOOB!!! I will try to run the full file through Android Studio, maybe this will work

[koutsouk]

Originally Posted by RedErik

Nice work I never thought of installing 10.25" instead of 8.8" but it might just work, will check. Do you have exact dimensions of 10.25" screen? That would help.

As for OTA file... as I said - NOOB!!! I will try to run the full file through Android Studio, maybe this will work

If you make a frame to bring the screen in front then 10,25 is possible since the space goes wider as you come outside.
The problem that you have to solve is how you will bolt the new frame to th dashboard since again as you come outside the dash becomes thinner.

[RedErik]

Originally Posted by koutsouk

If you make a frame to bring the screen in front then 10,25 is possible since the space goes wider as you come outside.
The problem that you have to solve is how you will bolt the new frame to th dashboard since again as you come outside the dash becomes thinner.

I was thinking of reusing original screws positions so it won't be completely flush with the dashboard, still a little bit recessed, but way closer than the original design. Personally I would rather avoid making new holes in the dashboard, I like to keep it reversible as much as possible.

[Kri]

Originally Posted by koutsouk

If you make a frame to bring the screen in front then 10,25 is possible since the space goes wider as you come outside.
The problem that you have to solve is how you will bolt the new frame to th dashboard since again as you come outside the dash becomes thinner.

@ Rederick, sorry have no Dimensions of the 10.25" display :/

@ Koutsouk, that would be no problem, as the original display has to be removed anyways an adapter can be made to mount on the original position and goes forward to the new position.

but that is going now a little bit far off-topic

Chri

[RedErik]

Very quick and rough mock-up. The idea is to reuse top part (probably easier to redesign than to chop off), but that leaves top vents and mounting points. Screen is moved forward by about 65-70mm, doesn't look like a lot, but I can reach every corner of it sitting comfortably. I will start modeling face of it, but can't really move any further with proper dimensions of both 8.8" and 10.25" screens. Then I have to design all fixing points for the screen and PCBs.

There are some good pictures of CIC E90 unit on Github but no use without dimensions.

[floc]

is there a way to root the OTA firmware update? I read some tricks about magisk but can someone point me to the right direction to have root?

I'm currently on 2.3.5 and planning to update to 2.8.3 and thinking about use my mobile to patch che boot.img in the OTA zip, then replace in the zip and upgrade the headunit. Should this work or am I missing something?

thank you

[Firefly1337]

Theoretically it should be possible to extract the boot.img from the OTA zip, patch that using Magisk Manager and repack the patched boot.img to the OTA zip and apply the update.
But no one ever tested this and without fastboot access there might be no coming back in case of errors.

Regarding the update functionality (file on USB in OEM folder): Is this done by the MCU or by the Android board itself?

[floc]

Originally Posted by Firefly1337

Theoretically it should be possible to extract the boot.img from the OTA zip, patch that using Magisk Manager and repack the patched boot.img to the OTA zip and apply the update.
But no one ever tested this and without fastboot access there might be no coming back in case of errors.

understood. But we had a procedure to force a wipe:

Originally Posted by floc

[...]

Change the software name to: Ksw-P-Userdebug_OS_v-ota-reset-data_factory.zip.
1. Change the name of the USB flash drive to: _kswota_
2. Copy the software to a USB flash drive.
3. Connect this USB flash drive to the Android unit.
4. Restart the unit, it will automatically force the upgrade.
After the forced upgrade is completed, then upgrade the OEM, copy it into the USB flash drive and upgrade.

don't you think this will be a possible solution?

[Firefly1337]

But, coming back to my question: Will this method still work with a (potentially) broken boot.img?
If yes, then the update is done by the MCU, right?

[floc]

unfortunately I don't know. I used to get out from a stucked android security lockscreen pin.

EDIT: and I don't think to try... Original boot.img is 64mb (65536) Patched one is 15mb... Maybe has some kind of slack space

[Firefly1337]

Correct, I just checked and unpacked the original boot.img. The file itself is 64MB while the unpacked files are only ~15MB of size.
In theory it should be safe to flash, but ROM building and co is outside of my expertise.

[smahel]

Originally Posted by floc

is there a way to root the OTA firmware update? I read some tricks about magisk but can someone point me to the right direction to have root?

I'm currently on 2.3.5 and planning to update to 2.8.3 and thinking about use my mobile to patch che boot.img in the OTA zip, then replace in the zip and upgrade the headunit. Should this work or am I missing something?

thank you

https://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...&postcount=409

[curlpost]

Hi!

Head unit with Snapdragon 4gb RAM + 64gb have build-in DSP?

This device: https://ru.aliexpress.com/item/4000144842180.html
have app "Ampliefer" and perfect equeliser.

Maybe someone knows how I can install custom equeliser like: Viper4Android or "Ampliefer"?

Default equeliser has only three band.

[floc]

Originally Posted by smahel

https://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...&postcount=409

thank you! May ask you why didn't you use the patch image method? Seems to be a lot straightforward (and afaik wireless adb is already running on my rom by default)

[RedErik]

Could someone check the dimensions of 10.25" and 8.8" screens for me please?

[Kri]

Originally Posted by curlpost

Hi!

Head unit with Snapdragon 4gb RAM + 64gb have build-in DSP?

This device: https://ru.aliexpress.com/item/4000144842180.html
have app "Ampliefer" and perfect equeliser.

Maybe someone knows how I can install custom equeliser like: Viper4Android or "Ampliefer"?

Default equeliser has only three band.

This HU is with Intel CPU, i don`t think someone will buy this, as Intel does not support them in the near future anymore.
i don`t recommend it.

Have you tried DSP App`s at Playstore , they don`t work ?

Chri

[curlpost]

Originally Posted by Kri

This HU is with Intel CPU, i don`t think someone will buy this, as Intel does not support them in the near future anymore.
i don`t recommend it.

Have you tried DSP App`s at Playstore , they don`t work ?

Chri

Google Play Store apps are very primitive and change sound is poor'ly.
We need "system" apps like ViPER4Android.

Other cheap and old headunits(from Aliexpress on other cars) have DSP.
I think, that China developers don't use other technology in the BMW Android Head Unit.