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      04-06-2018, 03:41 AM   #89
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Check out the last post by weytie
I would say he did it better than I did.

F31 LCI rear lights https://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1309231
Hey thanks man. Can I ask what cabling you used as I feel mine might come up short?
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My retrofit cable did end up coming short. I had to run to a local hardware store to match the gauge and extend it.

The trim I removed was the back inside rear tailgate trim, and the side inside tailgate trim and d pillar trims to route the wires.
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great tutorial, who makes good aftermarket lci tail lights?
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Hi David,

Could I pick your brains about coding for inner indicators to fire?

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Here is a complete TUTO to mount new full LED taillights for BMW F30 /M3F80

For BMW F31 is the same, there is just the exterior lights that are different

Left outer side taillights (63217372209)
Outer side right taillights (63217372210)
bmw see if gutters are 2 to change

[BUY]
Here are the reference pictures and pieces to buy


Outside left side taillights (63217369117)
Right side outside rear lights (63217369118)
Left inner taillights (63217369119)
Inside right rear lights (63217369120)





Cache left gutter (51497410819)
Cache right channel (51497410820)


Case 2x socket interior lights (61136984758)




2x connector for indoor lights (61138364834)




And cables to power the internal fires right and left towards the box next to the battery


[REMOVAL]
Removing hinge filling:





Removing side trim battery:





Removing Tailgate trim and fires:












[CHANGE] Before making the changes you must unplug the battery +

Here the change to External lights on right and left

there is just a move son as indicated with the homing

Left light:

Black / white to No. 1
Black / yellow to No. 2
Brown to No. 3
Gray / purple to No. 4



Right light:

Black / Gray to No. 1
Black / blue to No. 2
Brown to No. 3
Gray / yellow to No. 4



this photo shows the original location plug as above






Now he'll have to take that leave 2 son of internal fires left and right side to the rear case REM located next to the battery

This manipulation was used to transplant on foreign flashing


Right socket box:

Son connect purple / gray location 1 to REM(A174)prise(A174*14B)black / gray location No. 12


Left socket box:

son connect the blue / red location 1 to REM (A174)prise(A174*12B) black / white location No. 17









Photo of the socket located on the rear casing















Here the change to the interior lights left and right with the new outlet box (61136984758)

2 connectors that will connect to the rear module, the other 8 are the original ones that must be removed from the old black jack (4-pin) to the new green connector (6 pin with 1 not used)

Left light:
connector and cable add
son blue / red slot No. 1 to the REM box (A174) taken (A174 * 12B) black / white location No. 17


connector has moved from the original black jack (4-pin) to the new green jack (6-pin)
black / purple to No. 6
Brown to No. 3
Yellow / black to No. 4
Green / yellow to No. 5



Right light:
connector and cable add
son purple / gray location # 1 to the REM box (A174) taken (A174 * 14B) black / gray location No. 12


connector has moved from the original black jack (4-pin) to the new green jack (6-pin)
Green / red to No. 5
Brown to No. 3
Yellow / purple to No. 4
Black / blue to No. 6







[CODING]

The coding of new fires is not required, since there is no error on the idrive but against there will flicker flashing at each startup

If like me you do not want flickering lights here is the mod has to do with the E-sys software

Flashing Rear:

REM 3061 FRA_H_L_KALTUEBERWACHUNG /nicht_aktiv
REM 3061 FRA_H_L_WARMUEBERWACHUNG /nicht_aktiv
REM 3061 FRA_H_L_IS_LED /aktiv
REM 3061 FRA_H_R_KALTUEBERWACHUNG /nicht_aktiv
REM 3061 FRA_H_R_WARMUEBERWACHUNG /nicht_aktiv
REM 3061 FRA_H_R_IS_LED /aktiv

Reverse lights:

REM 3061 RFS_L_KALTUEBERWACHUNG /nicht_aktiv
REM 3061 RFS_L_WARMUEBERWACHUNG /nicht_aktiv
REM 3061 RFS_L_IS_LED /aktiv
REM 3061 RFS_R_KALTUEBERWACHUNG /nicht_aktiv
REM 3061 RFS_R_WARMUEBERWACHUNG /nicht_aktiv
REM 3061 RFS_R_IS_LED /aktiv

Brake lights outside:

REM / 3061 / BL_L_KALTUEBERWACHUNG /nicht_aktiv
REM / 3061 / BL_L_WARMUEBERWACHUNG /nicht_aktiv
REM / 3061 / BL_L_IS_LED /aktiv
REM / 3061 / BL_R_KALTUEBERWACHUNG /nicht_aktiv
REM / 3061 / BL_R_WARMUEBERWACHUNG /nicht_aktiv
REM / 3061 / BL_R_IS_LED /aktiv


Interior Brake lights:

REM / 3061 / BFD_L_KALTUEBERWACHUNG /nicht_aktiv
REM / 3061 / BFD_L_WARMUEBERWACHUNG /nicht_aktiv
REM / 3061 / BFD_L_IS_LED /aktiv
REM / 3061 / BFD_R_KALTUEBERWACHUNG /nicht_aktiv
REM / 3061 / BFD_R_WARMUEBERWACHUNG /nicht_aktiv
REM / 3061 / BFD_R_IS_LED /aktiv


Rear fog lights

REM / 3061 / NSL_L_KALTUEBERWACHUNG /nicht_aktiv
REM / 3061 / NSL_L_WARMUEBERWACHUNG /nicht_aktiv
REM / 3061 / NSL_L_IS_LED /aktiv
REM / 3061 / NSL_R_KALTUEBERWACHUNG /nicht_aktiv
REM / 3061 / NSL_R_WARMUEBERWACHUNG /nicht_aktiv
REM / 3061 / NSL_R_IS_LED /aktiv




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Hi David,

Could I pick your brains about coding for inner indicators to fire?

yes
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      05-21-2018, 02:08 PM   #93
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Does anyone know if a F34 (GT) rear light LCI retrofit is as easy replacement as this? Or does something more change?

Last edited by tlorenz2014; 05-22-2018 at 12:22 AM.. Reason: Clarified about the retrofit
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Does anyone know if a F34 (GT) rear light LCI retrofit is as easy replacement as this? Or does something more change?

it must not be too difficult
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Hello. Please help me everyone. Please. I wore a black tail of M Performance the other day. However, the coding of the VO coding did not go well and the inside blinker does not light up. I asked you to refer to your comments. There is a manual coding method described in the question and answer, but can this be handled by this method? Please give me guidance.
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Hello. Please help me everyone. Please. I wore a black tail of M Performance the other day. However, the coding of the VO coding did not go well and the inside blinker does not light up. I asked you to refer to your comments. There is a manual coding method described in the question and answer, but can this be handled by this method? Please give me guidance.
Or try to wire-tap your inner blinker to your outer blinker?
Best and easiest way..

Look it up on youtube.
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Hello. Please help me everyone. Please. I wore a black tail of M Performance the other day. However, the coding of the VO coding did not go well and the inside blinker does not light up. I asked you to refer to your comments. There is a manual coding method described in the question and answer, but can this be handled by this method? Please give me guidance.

How did you plug in your wires?
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      08-14-2018, 11:07 PM   #98
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is it possible to modify the pre LCI gutter trim to fit the retrofit?
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is it possible to modify the pre LCI gutter trim to fit the retrofit?

No
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No power on pins 5 and 13

Hi,

I have done the retrofit and did the coding as explained here, but I don't get power in the modules which are located on the trunk lid. The side modules work well.

I reckon that pins 5 and 13 don't get power, so my question is "how do I code it so that REM gives power to these pins"? I would like to stay away from splicing and stuff.

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Hi,

I have done the retrofit and did the coding as explained here, but I don't get power in the modules which are located on the trunk lid. The side modules work well.

I reckon that pins 5 and 13 don't get power, so my question is "how do I code it so that REM gives power to these pins"? I would like to stay away from splicing and stuff.

Thanks
Flashing REM to the latest pszdata.
Been there done that
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Flashing REM to the latest pszdata.
Been there done that
Downloading a staggering 47GB of the full pszdata file, then I'll update the module.

Thanks for the tip, never did on update of an entire module before. Just hope it doesn't explode and veer off into space when I start it
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I just installed the Euro LED LCI tail lights on my US spec F30. Install went great until I tried to install the 2 inner blinker wires into the 13B connector. I couldn't get the pins to slide in and seat fully. After fiddling with them for a while I just gave up and tested everything. All works as expected, just missing the inner blinkers. I also noticed the pins are taken on the alternate connection options (12B and 14B connectors). I'm guessing you have to splice/tap those wires rather than code the REM if you go that route?

I have a laptop configured to do coding and would rather not splice wires if I don't have to. Any tips on how to seat those pins into the 13B connector? They go about half way in, but won't click in place.
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The pins should be free though? Are you sure you are looking for the right pins.

Reminder: each connector has 2 sides. In front and in the back.
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I just installed the Euro LED LCI tail lights on my US spec F30. Install went great until I tried to install the 2 inner blinker wires into the 13B connector. I couldn't get the pins to slide in and seat fully. After fiddling with them for a while I just gave up and tested everything. All works as expected, just missing the inner blinkers. I also noticed the pins are taken on the alternate connection options (12B and 14B connectors). I'm guessing you have to splice/tap those wires rather than code the REM if you go that route?

I have a laptop configured to do coding and would rather not splice wires if I don't have to. Any tips on how to seat those pins into the 13B connector? They go about half way in, but won't click in place.


If you follow the procedure of the BMW document

Here is the coding to do


Just add to the HO-wort (HELD) and code REM





If after adding HELC and REM code does not work
It is necessary to modify as indicated

REM_01 > LceLampMapping1 3062 > MAPPING_BLINKER_H_L_FIXED_PWM = fixed
REM_01 > LceLampMapping1 3062 > MAPPING_BLINKER_H_L_PWM_LEVEL_1 = 13.7V [Default]
REM_01 > LceLampMapping1 3062 > MAPPING_BLINKER_H_R_FIXED_PWM = fixed
REM_01 > LceLampMapping1 3062 > MAPPING_BLINKER_H_R_PWM_LEVEL_1 = 13.7V [Default]
REM_01 > LceLampMapping1 3062 > MAPPING_BRAKEFORCED_L_FIXED_PWM = fixed
REM_01 > LceLampMapping1 3062 > MAPPING_BRAKEFORCED_L_PWM_LEVEL_1 = 100% [Default]
REM_01 > LceLampMapping1 3062 > MAPPING_BRAKEFORCED_R_FIXED_PWM = fixed
REM_01 > LceLampMapping1 3062 > MAPPING_BRAKEFORCED_R_PWM_LEVEL_1 = 100% [Default]
REM_01 > LceLampMapping1 3062 > MAPPING_BREMSL_L_FIXED_PWM = fixed
REM_01 > LceLampMapping1 3062 > MAPPING_BREMSL_L_PWM_LEVEL_1 = 13.5V [Default]
REM_01 > LceLampMapping1 3062 > MAPPING_BREMSL_R_FIXED_PWM = fixed
REM_01 > LceLampMapping1 3062 > MAPPING_BREMSL_R_PWM_LEVEL_1 = 13.5V [Default]
REM_01 > LceLampMapping2 3063 > MAPPING_NEBELSCHLUSSL_L_FIXED_PWM = fixed
REM_01 > LceLampMapping2 3063 > MAPPING_NEBELSCHLUSSL_L_PWM_LEVEL_1 = 13.5V [Default]
REM_01 > LceLampMapping2 3063 > MAPPING_NEBELSCHLUSSL_R_FIXED_PWM = fixed
REM_01 > LceLampMapping2 3063 > MAPPING_NEBELSCHLUSSL_R_PWM_LEVEL_1 = 13.5V [Default]
REM_01 > LceLampMapping2 3063 > MAPPING_RUECKFAHRL_L_PWM_LEVEL_1 = 13.7V [Default]
REM_01 > LceLampMapping2 3063 > MAPPING_RUECKFAHRL_R_PWM_LEVEL_1 = 13.7V [Default]
REM_01 > LceLampMapping2 3063 > MAPPING_UNIVERSAL_6_OUTPUT = sl_2_l
REM_01 > LceLampMapping2 3063 > MAPPING_UNIVERSAL_7_OUTPUT = sl_2_r
REM_01 > LceLampMapping2 3063 > MAPPING_UNIVERSAL_8_OUTPUT = bfd_l
REM_01 > LceLampMapping2 3063 > MAPPING_UNIVERSAL_9_OUTPUT = bfd_r
REM_01 > LceOutputChannels 3061 > BFD_L_CCM = ccm_blinker_l
REM_01 > LceOutputChannels 3061 > BFD_L_IS_LED = aktiv
REM_01 > LceOutputChannels 3061 > BFD_L_UE_SPG_SCHUTZ = dimmed
REM_01 > LceOutputChannels 3061 > BFD_R_CCM = ccm_blinker_r
REM_01 > LceOutputChannels 3061 > BFD_R_IS_LED = aktiv
REM_01 > LceOutputChannels 3061 > BFD_R_UE_SPG_SCHUTZ = dimmed
REM_01 > LceOutputChannels 3061 > BL_L_IS_LED = aktiv
REM_01 > LceOutputChannels 3061 > BL_L_KALTUEBERWACHUNG = nicht_aktiv
REM_01 > LceOutputChannels 3061 > BL_L_UE_SPG_SCHUTZ = nicht_aktiv
REM_01 > LceOutputChannels 3061 > BL_R_IS_LED = aktiv
REM_01 > LceOutputChannels 3061 > BL_R_KALTUEBERWACHUNG = nicht_aktiv
REM_01 > LceOutputChannels 3061 > BL_R_UE_SPG_SCHUTZ = nicht_aktiv
REM_01 > LceOutputChannels 3061 > FRA_H_L_IS_LED = aktiv
REM_01 > LceOutputChannels 3061 > FRA_H_L_KALTUEBERWACHUNG = nicht_aktiv
REM_01 > LceOutputChannels 3061 > FRA_H_L_WARMUEBERWACHUNG = aktiv [Default]
REM_01 > LceOutputChannels 3061 > FRA_H_R_IS_LED = aktiv
REM_01 > LceOutputChannels 3061 > FRA_H_R_KALTUEBERWACHUNG = nicht_aktiv
REM_01 > LceOutputChannels 3061 > FRA_H_R_WARMUEBERWACHUNG = aktiv [Default]
REM_01 > LceOutputChannels 3061 > NSL_L_IS_LED = aktiv
REM_01 > LceOutputChannels 3061 > NSL_L_KALTUEBERWACHUNG = nicht_aktiv
REM_01 > LceOutputChannels 3061 > NSL_L_UE_SPG_SCHUTZ = aktiv [Default]
REM_01 > LceOutputChannels 3061 > NSL_L_WARMUEBERWACHUNG = nicht_aktiv
REM_01 > LceOutputChannels 3061 > NSL_R_CCM = NEW_ccm_nsl_r
REM_01 > LceOutputChannels 3061 > NSL_R_IS_LED = aktiv
REM_01 > LceOutputChannels 3061 > NSL_R_KALTUEBERWACHUNG = nicht_aktiv
REM_01 > LceOutputChannels 3061 > NSL_R_UE_SPG_SCHUTZ = aktiv [Default]
REM_01 > LceOutputChannels 3061 > NSL_R_WARMUEBERWACHUNG = nicht_aktiv
REM_01 > LceOutputChannels 3061 > RFS_L_CCM = NEW_ccm_rfs_l
REM_01 > LceOutputChannels 3061 > SL_2_L_CCM = Fxx_ccm_sl_2_l
REM_01 > LceOutputChannels 3061 > SL_2_L_IS_LED = aktiv
REM_01 > LceOutputChannels 3061 > SL_2_R_CCM = Fxx_ccm_sl_2_r
REM_01 > LceOutputChannels 3061 > SL_2_R_IS_LED = aktiv
REM_01 > LceOutputChannels 3061 > SL_L_IS_LED = aktiv
REM_01 > LceOutputChannels 3061 > SL_R_IS_LED = aktiv
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The pins should be free though? Are you sure you are looking for the right pins.

Reminder: each connector has 2 sides. In front and in the back.
I have the 2 extra wires from the inner blinkers that have the tiny little pins connected. When I unplug the 13B connector, slide out the black holder and pop it apart I can see where all the pins go (should have seen me scratching my head how one side it had like 1-10, then on the other side 20-30 or something before I realized it popped down the middle and had more pin slots inside). I tried inserting the pins to where the arrow on the pin faces down and out towards the front. The same way the other pins on the actual tail light connectors were. With those you could just push the arrow on the pin and it slid out easily then slid back in and clicked in place after re-ordering them correctly per the BMW docs.

I am not sure why these 2 new wires with pins I'm adding from the inner blinkers won't fully slide into the 13B connector and click. Very frustrating. They physically seem to fit and will slide about 50% into place then they won't budge. Just for good measure I even tried flipping them to what seems backwards to me, but still no go. It's literally below 0 degrees F today so I am not going to look at it until it warms up in a few days now. I want to check and make sure the pins are crimped on alright and not slightly warped/bent maybe.
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Just wanted to follow up. My euro LCI LED retrofit is complete. No splicing was required.

I managed to resolve my wire/pin install issues. I did some testing by removing and reinserting some factory pins in the 13B connector and those worked fine. It was just the new pins for the inner blinkers that wouldn't set in properly. Turns out it was the wires outer coating being a bit too thick to allow the pin to fully seat. I just pinched the crimp a bit more with pliers and finally they would seat correctly. So even though I had bought the OEM connectors, the crimp job was not 100% ready to be plugged into the 13B connector.

Thanks david51 for the coding help. I was able to add HELC and code it to the REM, but it still didn't activate the inner blinkers. I manually followed all those codes and FDL coded it and they work as expected. Also coded out the bulb checks mentioned in the first post. I left the reverse bulb checks in though because those appear to not be LED on my tails.
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Just wanted to follow up. My euro LCI LED retrofit is complete. No splicing was required.

I managed to resolve my wire/pin install issues. I did some testing by removing and reinserting some factory pins in the 13B connector and those worked fine. It was just the new pins for the inner blinkers that wouldn't set in properly. Turns out it was the wires outer coating being a bit too thick to allow the pin to fully seat. I just pinched the crimp a bit more with pliers and finally they would seat correctly. So even though I had bought the OEM connectors, the crimp job was not 100% ready to be plugged into the 13B connector.

Thanks david51 for the coding help. I was able to add HELC and code it to the REM, but it still didn't activate the inner blinkers. I manually followed all those codes and FDL coded it and they work as expected. Also coded out the bulb checks mentioned in the first post. I left the reverse bulb checks in though because those appear to not be LED on my tails.

everything is working now
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Hi can somebody help me i tried fdl coding however how do you do 100% in MAPPING_BRAKEFORCE_L_PWM_LEVEL_1 / 100%? Same as the right [IMG][/IMG]

Also the BFD_L_CCm / ccm_blinker_l (same as the right) my only option is this ccm_bfd_l when i tried to edit it. My inner tail light is still not working

I dont get any errors in my cluster but when i scan it i get an error code encode rem

I saw my ista+ has a conversion but im not sure how to go about it because it seems it will code a lot of things and not just the rem
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