[LiquidMercury]

Originally Posted by x328x

"Only reason i had..."...waah waah thats all i hear

He's helpful. Don't you get it?! He treats you like shit with an answer that may be correct, but God dammit, how dare you talk back to his helpful mouth?! You sound so ungrateful x328x.

[GCinFLA]

Originally Posted by perryo91

I'm still waiting for your "help" with a link or name of a vendor....

If the only reason you're here is to "help" our members and provide righteous "knowledge"... Where it is homie?

Go fish

[jmciver]

Originally Posted by GCinFLA

Go fish

Ok so I will bite again, Master Search Jedi, sir.... If you won't reveal the vendor you used, so what are you using to search? Using the part number "bmw 63212450105" or a common description like "BMW F30 Blackline Tail Lights" in two of the biggest and most popular search engines on the internet, Google and Yahoo, yields multiple vendors, mostly non-us vendors (I used these search terms and other similar ones during my search). However, even after 6 pages in, using both search engines, does not yield a vendor with the price you posted - the cheapest I found was 398 Eur (didn't check to see if they shipped to the US though).

My fishing skills could use a bit more help....

[GCinFLA]

Originally Posted by jmciver

Ok so I will bite again, Master Search Jedi, sir.... If you won't reveal the vendor you used, so what are you using to search? Using the part number "bmw 63212450105" or a common description like "BMW F30 Blackline Tail Lights" in two of the biggest and most popular search engines on the internet, Google and Yahoo, yields multiple vendors, mostly non-us vendors (I used these search terms and other similar ones during my search). However, even after 6 pages in, using both search engines, does not yield a vendor with the price you posted - the cheapest I found was 398 Eur (didn't check to see if they shipped to the US though).

My fishing skills could use a bit more help....

That was your first mistake.

Yahoo has no search results of its own. No web crawler.

They signed a new 3 year deal to serve Google results that expires on December 31, 2018.

Your results can be from Google or Microsoft on Yahoo.

You wasted your time fishing the same lake.

[x328x]

Originally Posted by jmciver

Ok so I will bite again, Master Search Jedi, sir.... If you won't reveal the vendor you used, so what are you using to search? Using the part number "bmw 63212450105" or a common description like "BMW F30 Blackline Tail Lights" in two of the biggest and most popular search engines on the internet, Google and Yahoo, yields multiple vendors, mostly non-us vendors (I used these search terms and other similar ones during my search). However, even after 6 pages in, using both search engines, does not yield a vendor with the price you posted - the cheapest I found was 398 Eur (didn't check to see if they shipped to the US though).

My fishing skills could use a bit more help....

You need to be better than that. You need to write your own lines of codeing and create a better search engine than Google like GCinFLA has.

[jmciver]

Originally Posted by GCinFLA

That was your first mistake.

Yahoo has no search results of its own. No web crawler.

They signed a new 3 year deal to serve Google results that expires on December 31, 2018.

Your results can be from Google or Microsoft on Yahoo.

You wasted your time fishing the same lake.

Fair enough, Master Search Jedi, your knowledge of search engines is impressive, most impressive.... I would expect nothing less. But I still did use Google, and you did not answer my question... What search terms did you use? And to further amplify that question, what would be better search terms to use other than the examples I provided?

[GCinFLA]

Originally Posted by jmciver

Fair enough, Master Search Jedi, your knowledge of search engines is impressive, most impressive.... I would expect nothing less. But I still did use Google, and you did not answer my question... What search terms did you use? And to further amplify that question, what would be better search terms to use other than the examples I provided?

Sorry to disapoint but I do not recall every search term I've ever used.

Your second mistake is looking for an EU only part using English words that will provide few hits as English isn't a big language in the EU. Try using Google translate to determine proper words as not all sites list BMW Parts numbers, especially in the same form factor.

You were essentially relying on a part number search and few German sites are in English.

[perryo91]

This is so hilarious, I'm starting to like GC because he makes me laugh

[Icydubloon]

God bless you all

[elgydium]

I'm seeing a lot of you arguing in the comments over who's search skills are better.

Let's just say I bought mine under 500€.

If you look hard enough, you can find anything at a good price.

[Abi]

Originally Posted by elgydium

I'm seeing a lot of you arguing in the comments over who's search skills are better.

Let's just say I bought mine under 500€.

If you look hard enough, you can find anything at a good price.

I bought mine under 200€ new, unboxed

[DThr33]

Originally Posted by elgydium

I'm seeing a lot of you arguing in the comments over who's search skills are better.

Let's just say I bought mine under 500€.

If you look hard enough, you can find anything at a good price.

Yup, got mine for £400 delivered, including retrofit cable

[perryo91]

Originally Posted by Abi

I bought mine under 200€ new, unboxed

I bought mine under 100€, got the harnesses for free from a junkyard. Anything's possible when you believe in yourself.

[KingpinRCR]

I don't know if somebody here already mentioned this but it seems that these lights aren't streetlegal in the us or canada.(source: genuine bmw-dealership)
Anybody had any problems yet?
I don't want to meddle but I thought I should mention this...

[jmciver]

Originally Posted by KingpinRCR

I don't know if somebody here already mentioned this but it seems that these lights aren't streetlegal in the us or canada.(source: genuine bmw-dealership)
Anybody had any problems yet?
I don't want to meddle but I thought I should mention this...

No problems here and I don't expect I will have any as they "look" just like a BMW factory part (because they are) as opposed to some cheap aftermarket tail lights you can buy at Autozone, or something similar. These lights are made by the same vendor as the red LCI lights, and presumably to the same quality standards as they have the BMW stamp on them. From a performance perspective, they still meet DOT requirements. Specifically: 1) the brake lights when applied are still red, 2) the parking lights (the LED strips) when turned on are still red (they are the exact same as the regular LCI lights) and 3) the turn signals are amber or red.

Other than the basic black color of the lights (i.e. the black parts) the only functional difference are the yellow turn signals vs the red ones on the original LCI lights. Rear yellow turn signals are still authorized on US roads and there are several cars, including late model cars, that have them. I can speculate that the only reason these lights are not technically DOT approved is because BMW never officially submitted them to DOT for approval - a process that takes time and money for any manufacturer to do.

Now that I have these lights, I have actually noticed other car manufacturers going with a "black line style" tail light - I have seen them on quite a few Acuras and Lexus lately (and these cars were not what I would consider "enthusiasts" cars so I am pretty sure they came from the factory that way). So unless you seriously piss off your local DMV or vehicle inspection station, and they are actually smart enough to know what is legal and what is not when it comes to lights, I think you will be fine .

[LiquidMercury]

Originally Posted by KingpinRCR

I don't know if somebody here already mentioned this but it seems that these lights aren't streetlegal in the us or canada.(source: genuine bmw-dealership)
Anybody had any problems yet?
I don't want to meddle but I thought I should mention this...

They're not illegal to the best of my knowledge. Had them installed for a few months now and not a single issue with the law. What makes you think that they're not legal in NA?

[jmciver]

Originally Posted by LiquidMercury

They're not illegal to the best of my knowledge. Had them installed for a few months now and not a single issue with the law. What makes you think that they're not legal in NA?

I see that you are from Canada so I can't speak about the rules there - although they typically mirror the US. In this case it may be just a US thing, specifically, the lights have not been approved by the Department of Transportation (DOT). Admittedly, I have not actually seen the "words" that spell this out, but I have seen this thing before. In the case of these lights, there is no "DOT XXXXXX" mark on them, which is on all lights for vehicles approved to be sold in the US (at least I did not see one when I installed them). That DOT mark signifies they have been evaluated and approved for use on US roads by the DOT.

That said, unless your car really stands out with several custom, non-factory looking parts, like a show car for example, the chances of you getting a citation for these lights is slim to none.

[KingpinRCR]

@jmciver: i fully agree with you, the only reason I could think of was paperwork.

@LiquidMercury: because someone at the salesdepartement of bmw told me that. And since you can't buy them officially in NA I tend to believe him.

[LiquidMercury]

I'll have to find out provincially, but truth be told, I'm not concerned. Like provinces, states are the same with regulations differing state to state or province to province. It's the same with reflectors. I've replaced my front and rears with painted ones and haven't had any issues.

[Edit] Found a MVA section that specifically discusses head and tail lamps here for our province here: http://www.bclaws.ca/EPLibraries/bcl...01#section4.15

It's pretty grey in description when it comes to reflectors and could be counter argued either way, but I have my high doubts any police officer would even bother ticketing me for any potential infractions.

[LiquidMercury]

Originally Posted by KingpinRCR

@jmciver: i fully agree with you, the only reason I could think of was paperwork.

@LiquidMercury: because someone at the salesdepartement of bmw told me that. And since you can't buy them officially in NA I tend to believe him.

Well there you have it, lol.

[///MFlight81]

Are these coming out for F82?

[ikonmotorsports]

Originally Posted by kirill_1361

Does anyone know where to order them? I know that it is possible to order it from Russia but I had no luck to find any info about those tail lights online (no pictures of them)

Hi..our company carry that taillight in black and red color. Please send an email to david@ikonmotorsports.com for more information...