[Bubblebeard2011]

Hi
I've just bought a NBT EVO that gets it's gps from a ATM (telematics 4g gps module). I'm wondering if anyone can help me with this.
I don't understand what wires go into the atm module and where the atm module should be placed?
I understand the atm plugs into the port under the quadlock on the nbt head unit but I don't know where to place the atm or what to connect into it from there.
Any help would be really appreciated!

[Bubblebeard2011]

Thread bump

[larry_bml]

No one?

[Bubblebeard2011]

Pm and I'll send you details of who I bought it off

[cryptomit]

I have retrfoitted NBT EVO in F15. Currently I use NBT EVO ATM emulator. But soon I would like to retrfoit ATM module to get internet and other services. Anywaone is able to point me in the right direction of who can help me with it?

I have TCB module from this car with active services, but of course it can be hooked up to EVO.

Any help will be much appreciated.

Thanks.

[Andrei_UK]

Originally Posted by Bubblebeard2011

Pm and I'll send you details of who I bought it off

Hi, can you suggest me what I need to made ConnectedDrive working on my retrofi NBT EVO2 ... my nbt evo2 it’s full working but uith ATM emulator with GPS plug..

What ATM 4G I need and where it’s must be placed and connected


Thank you I appreciate!

[Wibbles]

Originally Posted by IK6SPEED

Connected Drive will not work on NBT EVO retrofits.

Incorrect, you just need to have a matched pair of ATM & EVO - not impossible if you know how.

[Mashman]

Originally Posted by Andrei_UK

Hi, can you suggest me what I need to made ConnectedDrive working on my retrofi NBT EVO2 ... my nbt evo2 it’s full working but uith ATM emulator with GPS plug..

What ATM 4G I need and where it’s must be placed and connected


Thank you I appreciate!

You need to find an ATM from your locality, that has been activated with BMW servers. So, you need a unit from a used car, not a new one.

The ATM gets installed in the trunk (get the trunk version, and not the roof version), in the same location as the TCU or Combox, it even uses the same bracket.

Once installed, the ATM and NBT need to use the same VIN, and since you can't change the VIN of the ATM, you need to change the VIN of the NBT, and that requires a new FSC kit for the ATM donor VIN.

Did you previously have a Telematics unit (TCU or Combox)? If so, most of the required connections will be there, you will need to run some wires (1 twisted pair connected to Kcan2, 1 twisted pair for ethernet of OABR, and 3 wires for MIC1 in quadlock. IF you did not previously have telematics, you will need to run 2 additional wires from microphone to ATM) from where ever the ATM is installed to the NBT unit, I run a CAT-5 cable.

These are the wires that will be there if you previously had telematics 3 to microphone, 2 to SOS button/led, crash signal, 2 to emergency speaker, power, and gnd, if they are not there, you need to run them, or disable them in the ATM via coding - SOS can be disabled in ATM, also the crash signal can be disabled, the ATM can also be coded to use actual speakers, and not emergency speaker.

[Andrei_UK]

Originally Posted by Mashman

You need to find an ATM from your locality, that has been activated with BMW servers. So, you need a unit from a used car, not a new one.

The ATM gets installed in the trunk (get the trunk version, and not the roof version), in the same location as the TCU or Combox, it even uses the same bracket.

Once installed, the ATM and NBT need to use the same VIN, and since you can't change the VIN of the ATM, you need to change the VIN of the NBT, and that requires a new FSC kit for the ATM donor VIN.

Did you previously have a Telematics unit (TCU or Combox)? If so, most of the required connections will be there, you will need to run some wires (1 twisted pair connected to Kcan2, 1 twisted pair for ethernet of OABR, and 3 wires for MIC1 in quadlock. IF you did not previously have telematics, you will need to run 2 additional wires from microphone to ATM) from where ever the ATM is installed to the NBT unit, I run a CAT-5 cable.

These are the wires that will be there if you previously had telematics 3 to microphone, 2 to SOS button/led, crash signal, 2 to emergency speaker, power, and gnd, if they are not there, you need to run them, or disable them in the ATM via coding - SOS can be disabled in ATM, also the crash signal can be disabled, the ATM can also be coded to use actual speakers, and not emergency speaker.

Thank you so much, you are the best...I appreciate for your time to suggest the best way to install...

My car comes without TCB or Combox ( it’s no wiring there) i got F20 2013 with HU_Entry) I manage to retrofit my car with NBT EVO 2 + ATM Emulator ( for gps signal) The HU it’s with my VIN ( all things working exempt Online ConnectedDrive)

Thank you again , I will look to buy any ATM and see how it’s work !

[Wibbles]

so easiest way to get this to work, get the SIM card from your current TCB removed and installed into the ATM, then it will work.

PM me and I can put you in touch with someone that can do this, I have no involvement in that sort of thing as it needs very specialist tools.

[Immyuae]

Originally Posted by wibbles

so easiest way to get this to work, get the SIM card from your current TCB removed and installed into the ATM, then it will work.

PM me and I can put you in touch with someone that can do this, I have no involvement in that sort of thing as it needs very specialist tools.

Hi I’m new to this game just joined this group I’m not able to pm you as yet, so if we had a evo id5 installed to a car that has a tcb and the evo has now the vin for the car that it’s going into now (currently has tcb)if the atm was fitted and vin changed would the sim chip be able to be changed over? I know you mentioned to pm you but would this case work like I’ve mentioned

Thanks

[Wibbles]

Originally Posted by Immyuae

Hi I’m new to this game just joined this group I’m not able to pm you as yet, so if we had a evo id5 installed to a car that has a tcb and the evo has now the vin for the car that it’s going into now (currently has tcb)if the atm was fitted and vin changed would the sim chip be able to be changed over? I know you mentioned to pm you but would this case work like I’ve mentioned

Thanks

the wiring for ATM and TCB are different

[Rizlar B]

Originally Posted by wibbles

so easiest way to get this to work, get the SIM card from your current TCB removed and installed into the ATM, then it will work.

PM me and I can put you in touch with someone that can do this, I have no involvement in that sort of thing as it needs very specialist tools.

Please give me more information.

[Rizlar B]

wibbles has exceeded their stored private messages quota and cannot accept further messages until they clear some space.

[Andrei_UK]

Originally Posted by Mashman

You need to find an ATM from your locality, that has been activated with BMW servers. So, you need a unit from a used car, not a new one.

The ATM gets installed in the trunk (get the trunk version, and not the roof version), in the same location as the TCU or Combox, it even uses the same bracket.

Once installed, the ATM and NBT need to use the same VIN, and since you can't change the VIN of the ATM, you need to change the VIN of the NBT, and that requires a new FSC kit for the ATM donor VIN.

Did you previously have a Telematics unit (TCU or Combox)? If so, most of the required connections will be there, you will need to run some wires (1 twisted pair connected to Kcan2, 1 twisted pair for ethernet of OABR, and 3 wires for MIC1 in quadlock. IF you did not previously have telematics, you will need to run 2 additional wires from microphone to ATM) from where ever the ATM is installed to the NBT unit, I run a CAT-5 cable.

These are the wires that will be there if you previously had telematics 3 to microphone, 2 to SOS button/led, crash signal, 2 to emergency speaker, power, and gnd, if they are not there, you need to run them, or disable them in the ATM via coding - SOS can be disabled in ATM, also the crash signal can be disabled, the ATM can also be coded to use actual speakers, and not emergency speaker.

Hi again

I do need your help again with some suggestions
I still looking to buy the ATM 4G to connect to NBT
It’s there any diagram where the connector where the cable go to from MIC
And also it’s there some connectors to the ATM 4G telmatic
ATM
1. A331*1B
2. A331*2B
3. A331*3B

I do not have wiring, any TBC to connect

So how do I connect the ATM 4G to the NBT
What connectors and wiring needed?

Thank you!

[tonirai]

Originally Posted by wibbles

so easiest way to get this to work, get the SIM card from your current TCB removed and installed into the ATM, then it will work.

PM me and I can put you in touch with someone that can do this, I have no involvement in that sort of thing as it needs very specialist tools.

I'm doing some brainstorming about whether to, in the future, retrofit a NBT ID5/6, or get one of those android screens (basically works as a screen switch, which maintain your idrive, sideloaded with android and a skin that mimics the ID5/6 interface).
Mine is a NBTEvo ID4 (with TCB), and the objective is having some more apps, and/or screen mirroring my android phone.

To sum it up (correct me if I'm wrong):
1 - NBT can change VINs, ATM cannot;
2 - NBT and ATM must have the same VIN.

To have all available services, the only way is then to:
A) Buy both together (same donor car) and keep the donor's VIN in the NBT (and then subscribe the services on that donor's VIN);
B) Buy separately, but code the NBT to the ATM's VIN (and then subscribe the services on that donor's VIN);
In these A and B cases, should we also move the SIM from our previous TCB to the new ATM (or do we stay with the donor's SIM)?

OR
C) Swap the SIM from the previous TCB to the new ATM, because it is the SIM where the VIN is somehow embedded, and that would do the trick (and the new NBT should then be coded to our own VIN)?

[Wibbles]

Originally Posted by tonirai

I'm doing some brainstorming about whether to, in the future, retrofit a NBT ID5/6, or get one of those android screens (basically works as a screen switch, which maintain your idrive, sideloaded with android and a skin that mimics the ID5/6 interface).
Mine is a NBTEvo ID4 (with TCB), and the objective is having some more apps, and/or screen mirroring my android phone.

To sum it up (correct me if I'm wrong):
1 - NBT can change VINs, ATM cannot;
2 - NBT and ATM must have the same VIN.

To have all available services, the only way is then to:
A) Buy both together (same donor car) and keep the donor's VIN in the NBT (and then subscribe the services on that donor's VIN);
B) Buy separately, but code the NBT to the ATM's VIN (and then subscribe the services on that donor's VIN);
In these A and B cases, should we also move the SIM from our previous TCB to the new ATM (or do we stay with the donor's SIM)?

OR
C) Swap the SIM from the previous TCB to the new ATM, because it is the SIM where the VIN is somehow embedded, and that would do the trick (and the new NBT should then be coded to our own VIN)?

If your car has EVO ID4 then you don't need to change the ATM in the trunk, just swap the headunit but make sure it's coded to your car's VIN and has the appropriate FSC codes.

If you do have a TCB then that means you have NBT ID3 - if that is the case then you can get a TCB > ATM adaptor - they can be bought on ebay.

[tonirai]

Originally Posted by wibbles

If your car has EVO ID4 then you don't need to change the ATM in the trunk, just swap the headunit but make sure it's coded to your car's VIN and has the appropriate FSC codes.

OK, so in that case all it takes is swapping + coding to VIN + the right FSC codes.

Originally Posted by wibbles

If you do have a TCB then that means you have NBT ID3 - if that is the case then you can get a TCB > ATM adaptor - they can be bought on ebay.

I was assuming I had a TCB because I thought I had read that here, or somewhere else... and because in realoem it seems that some cars with my build date have it, and some don't.

But if you say that ATM are installed in all cars with NBTEvo ID4, than that's what I must have, because I have the Navigation Pro as defined here (F20 1 series 05/2015 build):

[Wibbles]

There is a an easy way to tell which headunit is fitted:

Go to the map screen, press the Options button on the idrive controller, select Navigation Settings > Position & Version > Version Information

If it says "NEXT" then it's ID3, if it says NBTevo - then it's ID4.

[tonirai]

Originally Posted by wibbles

There is a an easy way to tell which headunit is fitted:

Go to the map screen, press the Options button on the idrive controller, select Navigation Settings > Position & Version > Version Information

If it says "NEXT" then it's ID3, if it says NBTevo - then it's ID4.

That's what made me think I had an ID4 in the first place - my maps are NBTevo.

Anyway, I finally had the time to pop the lid cover in the boot, and took a picture of it - I have an ATM-01 (3G version).

One more question - I see a lot of retrofits that require the swap of the screen and knob controller... In my particular case, if I understood correctly, the knob doesn't need to be changed, and the screen depends on the version (because of its power rate)? Is this correct?
Thanks a lot.

[Gremlin82]

Originally Posted by wibbles

so easiest way to get this to work, get the SIM card from your current TCB removed and installed into the ATM, then it will work.

PM me and I can put you in touch with someone that can do this, I have no involvement in that sort of thing as it needs very specialist tools.

How can I check if my sim is active on the atm module?

[tonirai]

Originally Posted by Gremlin82

How can I check if my sim is active on the atm module?

I suppose that if you have SOS button and it works, or if you can send destinations from the web or the bmw connected app to the car, then it means your Sim is active.