[Blubaron79]

Originally Posted by Vegetable

You mean car and advertisement?

I get Autoweek.

[Bmw doubles]

Originally Posted by chaungo

Nah bro.


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With Hamburgers.

Gnarly

[FilipMPower]

Originally Posted by wdeerfield

good to see at least one v8 on there.

Yeah, however that choice is a bit weird to me. The Ford V8 is good, its not outstanding though, it is comparable to engines at least 5 years old imho.

But I cant think of any other V8 engine released this year...

[Powerslide]

Originally Posted by Haywood

Why no Porsche engines?

According to EffEighty - Porsche is too cool and above that competition - the Porsche engines would score so high that the computers keeping track of scores would be so overwhelmed they would just start short-circuiting and spontaneously burst into flames...

[Goody4]

Originally Posted by Powerslide

According to EffEighty - Porsche is too cool and above that competition - the Porsche engines would score so high that the computers keeping track of scores would be so overwhelmed they would just start short-circuiting and spontaneously burst into flames...

I heard about this, too. Last year, when Porsche won, it crashed Ward's entire computer network. Took 'em months to reboot. Ward's vowed "never again".

[wdeerfield]

Originally Posted by Goody4

I heard about this, too. Last year, when Porsche won, it crashed Ward's entire computer network. Took 'em months to reboot. Ward's vowed "never again".

Oooor. It's just who spent money on advertising the most.

[///Mikey F80]

Originally Posted by antzcrashing

Thats from MT. Do they seem a bit bitter? Maybe mad bc the caddies arent selling so well?

It's so true though... I refer to them as "General Motors Trend" because it's blatantly obvious to any bias-free, objective individual who looks at their testing and awarding tendencies in the past couple years how in bed they are with GM. Truck of The Year? A Chevy Colorado, instead of the insanely revolutionary (for a truck) aluminum F150. 2016 Car of The Year? Chevy Camaro. For the "Driver's Car of The Year" they stacked the deck of ten cars with a CTS-V, an ATS-V, and a Corvette Z06... While also including a Lexus RCF land yacht, but no BMW of any kind. I think they were surprised that one of their babies didn't win. It's pathetic. So much so that I canceled my subscription.

///Mike

[MrSmileyDC]

Originally Posted by chaungo

Unfortunately, you CANNOT change out the intercooler in the 340i, as it is integrated into the intake manifold. So this may affect tuning the 340i a bit more difficult.

Possibly. I'm curious as to how the air temps compare to the n54/55. My guess would be to increase water flow rates or methanol injection to lower temps.

[auf Deutsch]

Originally Posted by Powerslide

According to EffEighty - Porsche is too cool and above that competition - the Porsche engines would score so high that the computers keeping track of scores would be so overwhelmed they would just start short-circuiting and spontaneously burst into flames...

LMAO...the frustration that stems from PcarfanboyPhD aka EfeightyM3 spreads itself beyond the realms of the F8x M3 forum to the front page of a Bimmerpost F3x topic.

[lens]

Originally Posted by BimmerGuyDC

Possibly. I'm curious as to how the air temps compare to the n54/55. My guess would be to increase water flow rates or methanol injection to lower temps.

Yeah, normally you would just change out the intercooler and problem solved, no heatsoak, more HP. But since this one is air to liquid, it may affect future tuning as you have to make sure the system won't heat soak. I really want to see what they'll come up with in the future.

[MrSmileyDC]

Originally Posted by chaungo

Yeah, normally you would just change out the intercooler and problem solved, no heatsoak, more HP. But since this one is air to liquid, it may affect future tuning as you have to make sure the system won't heat soak. I really want to see what they'll come up with in the future.

I did a fmic upgrade on my e92. My f82 uses a water cooled intercooler as well. Honestly, I think it's a better technology. If temps are about where they were by upgrading the fmic on the old n54/55 then I don't think you can really gain much. It will be interesting to see what kind of power can be made on this platform.

[Mauricio Palacios. MD]

I think that the N55 engine has proved its performance AND RELIABILITY. Only time will tell if the new B58 is better. The only fact that we can certainly know, is that it is cheaper to build. Modular technology shared with L3 & L4. It's more about money than real technological development. We can feel satisfied if it's as good as the old N55. Greetings.

[antzcrashing]

Originally Posted by Mauricio Palacios. MD

I think that the N55 engine has proved its performance AND RELIABILITY. Only time will tell if the new B58 is better. The only fact that we can certainly know, is that it is cheaper to build. Modular technology shared with L3 & L4. It's more about money than real technological development. We can feel satisfied if it's as good as the old N55. Greetings.

Is the n55 really that great in the reliability department? How many are at 100k+ miles. I think the jury is still out, I am nervous about high miles turbocharged engines

[roastbeef]

Each company bought their way onto that list. I don't buy it.

[raysspl]

The watermelon sized engine from Tesla didn't make it?

[ORIGIN M.]

Originally Posted by roastbeef

Each company bought their way onto that list. I don't buy it.

You're buying into it way to much, they've bought nothing !

[ORIGIN M.]

Originally Posted by raysspl

The watermelon sized engine from Tesla didn't make it?

No Engine... Electric Motor, so go figure !

[Boss330]

Originally Posted by FilipMPower

Yeah, however that choice is a bit weird to me. The Ford V8 is good, its not outstanding though, it is comparable to engines at least 5 years old imho.

But I cant think of any other V8 engine released this year...

Other new V8 engines this year, includes at least the Ferrari 488. Not sure when the 4l AMG engine was released.

But the GT350 engine is certainly a unique engine in that it has a flat plane crank layout, a first for any US production car.

A layout the S65 in the E9x gen M3 should have had instead of that heavy and odd firing cross plane crank layout it shared with any V8. Apart from the Ferrari V8's and other supercars which also has the flat plane crank design.

The GT350 engine is a very bold engineering decision and something I wish BMW would have had the courage to have done before they dropped the NA engines... That engine is by far the most exotic engine in the award!

[TroyMcClure]

Nice to hear that the B58 is receiving so much positive feedback. Its got some pretty cool new features.

There is also some mixed opinions on the new modular concepts, where Diesel and Petrol engines share the same block, which means the weight went up considerably for the Petrol engines.

[Jamesons Viggen]

Originally Posted by Boss330

Other new V8 engines this year, includes at least the Ferrari 488. Not sure when the 4l AMG engine was released.

$60,000 PRICE cap for the Wards Engine List.

[ORIGIN M.]

Originally Posted by pileofstack

Not sure, I guess Subaru is making the better boxer. :

If you say so.

[IS3andME]

Originally Posted by ///Mikey F80

It's so true though... I refer to them as "General Motors Trend" because it's blatantly obvious to any bias-free, objective individual who looks at their testing and awarding tendencies in the past couple years how in bed they are with GM. Truck of The Year? A Chevy Colorado, instead of the insanely revolutionary (for a truck) aluminum F150. 2016 Car of The Year? Chevy Camaro. For the "Driver's Car of The Year" they stacked the deck of ten cars with a CTS-V, an ATS-V, and a Corvette Z06... While also including a Lexus RCF land yacht, but no BMW of any kind. I think they were surprised that one of their babies didn't win. It's pathetic. So much so that I canceled my subscription.

///Mike

Whoa, hold on, the BMW 3 series, especially the M3, is the darling of the American mags, and has been for a long time...that is until the ATS beat the 3 series in handling by making a car that the 3 series used to be.

Now as far as MT is concerned, maybe there might be some home team push, just like with the German rags/reviews. But, you cannot deny that the CTS-V, ATS-V, and Corvette Z06 are beasts.

Also, who has mag subscriptions these days?