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I hear what you are saying, but that does not match my experience with fwd or rwd with Blizzaks vs 4wd with top shelf A/S. I have not compared with cars from the same platform, but across various different platforms over the last 25 years, I would take 2wd with Blizzaks over 4wd with A/S for all around safe vehicle control in a wide range of slick winter conditions.
The front two tires are responsible for between 60% and 90% of braking on a typical car. And at least that much of the steering.
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Braking in the snow is almost completely dependent on the tires. Even the brakes don't matter all that much as pretty much any halfway modern car can lock up its tires on dry pavement much less snow/ice. The stability control or ABS are probably more important and those are more for stability while you brake. So regardless of what you think your personal experiences are, if I had a choice between a BMW 340i with snow tires and a BMW 340xi with all-seasons to transport my family in the winter, I'd take the RWD car without hesitation. The biggest safety element of snow tires is braking hands down. The next is cornering. I'll repeat, braking completely relies on tires. It doesn't matter what the drive wheels are. NOTE: I've driven many AWD, 4x4, RWD, and FWD cars in Chicago winters with a combination of winter, summer and all-season tires. |
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The only thing im going to say to this is, My previous car was a s-60 volvo with FWD, 1st winter i ran only AS, car ran ok in certain conditions, but ice, slush car was all over the road, The following winter i installed blizzaks on the front only and it was like nite and day. The tire store i purchased from was begging me to buy 4 telling me ill be all over the road, well i could only afford 2 that's it ...If you have ever seen the wiz of oz as they say it was like going from black and white too color, yes the car would have benifitted from all 4 wheels but at the time it was all i could afford. I guess different conditions in winter will very.I live 250 mi north of NYC so we get big storms in the Adirondacks, and snow tires are a way of life up here.
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What I did was to work in the ski industry for 25 years. My daily commute was up, and at the end of the day down, a mountain road. Others might have the luxury of staying home when it snows, but when you work at a ski area you don't get to do that. I also took regular long trips throughout New England for business, no matter what the road conditions. I don't have to theorize whether or not my xDrive with AS works better in snow than any of the various FWD cars with with winter tires I've driven. I know. That doesn't mean that xDrive wouldn't be even better in snow with winter tires. But that's a different topic.
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I'd take my FWD accord with snow tires over my X-Drive BMW with AS all day. Just got a set of snows for the BMW because, as mentioned, stopping distance is extremely important.
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Hit the easy button: go to Tirerack.com and get a set of inexpensive wheels and have performance winter tires mounted. Been driving in NJ for 30 years with RWD, FWD, AWD, and 4X4. For the snow, ice, slush, nothing beats winter tires. But most days will be cold asphalt so "performance winter" is the way to go. During last year's snow the Sotozero Serie II RFT were fine. If the snow is deep and roads not plowed yet - stay at home.
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this winter since i live right next to NJT and get into NYC on a five minute train ride im deciding to keep the car in the garage for the winter. |
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Snows make a HUGE difference over all seasons.
AWD does not help you stop or turn. Winter tires do! You can get by with all seasons but its that white knuckle feel. With winter tires you have confidence. |
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While taking the risk of stating the obvious, there is no substitute for show tires. The debate of AWD + all season tires did not alter the laws of physics despite consuming a fairly significant percentage of global Internet traffic.
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I drove last year on summers not realizing (yep my fault) - I do work from home on snow days if I can. I totally go stuck on a hill outside my in laws place.... had to back around in their driveway in order to get out. I have x drive.... horrible experience. I had an Outback with all seasons before, much better, but not great.
Have a message in to Tire Rack on a set of winters.... I live NW of Philadelphia.
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