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And seeing as the BoE is effectively the governments bank, it cannot owe money to itself. I'm not surprised you don't understand this, as i say, most people don't have a clue how it works. There's a whole host of resources i could give but there wouldn't be any point really. It requires a complete changing of your frame of reference. You first have to understand what banks do, how they create money through issuing loans, and understand how the government is not a household, and whenever it runs a deficit, it actually creates a private sector surplus - it's part of the national accounting identity. You'd also then have to understand how GDP is calculated. Taxes do not pay for anything. Taxes destroy money - that is the purpose of a tax. Their primary use is to control inflation, and to generate incentives/distribute the money supply; They serve as a drain on the money supply. but in terms of government requiring 'our taxes' in order to spend on public services, this is entirely wrong. The good thing is, slowly but surely, people are begining to realise this, as they wonder how covid was paid for and how government could 'magic up' a ton of money. You ought to check out what QE is, and then go and do some research around how government actually used BoE to 'pay for covid'. Check out the BoE website - useful resource. Last edited by gippy; 03-03-2021 at 03:25 PM.. |
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excellent response though. i knew my post would trigger this sort of response, i did it anyway just to see how deluded people still are about how the monetary system works. And lo and behold, you lot definitely are. You're all stuck on the gold-standard way of thinking, in essence. |
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Even I didn't have to pay for mine. Not that it's worth the paper it's written on!
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But you just carry on spouting rubbish and patronising, if that's what floats your boat. One day you'll reach adulthood, maybe.
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My employers paid for my second one. And my professional qualification..... and then I taught economics to trainee accountants! Those two were worth doing
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Imagine if he's actually like this in real life
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On a different budget related note, I just discovered today that your higher tax threshold down south is £50k, not £40k as it is up here. I'd love to know where this extra money they're taking from me is going because it sure as hell ain't in education, healthcare, council services or roads! Well I do, it's a slush fund for independence campaigning, but still it does rather annoy me that we get surplus from Westminster over and above what we pay in and the country still manages to crumble. |
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Worrying. But yeh, if it makes you feel superior by using an argument from authority fallacy, and saying i'm "spouting rubbish", feel free. It's a poor position though. |
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So what’s your experience that makes you right when everyone else is wrong? Make a case for your views..
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Just that fact alone blows peoples minds, but in 2014 the BoE were kind enough to write a paper on it, which you can find here: https://www.bankofengland.co.uk/-/me...205CE476E01654 Once you get the double entry bookkeeping, it's a short journey to understand how the government finances work. The great thing about covid is, through all the new money creation done by the BoE last year, it has made people more aware. So rather than disguard my posts as 'nonsense', it'll be worth your time to look into these things a little more before being so dismissive. |
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However to transfer out the multiple is far higher 30+. I assumed it would just tax the bit above the 1.1M at 55%, bit like the move from basic to higher rate tax. So for every £100K above the benefit would only be £45K into pot. How would the annual pension be taxed if it were above LFA.
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Each generation pays for the previous one generally and I have no issue with that, but unless you're paying 20k+ a year in tax you're often not paying anything off as you cost more than you give.
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They pay out the money (so credit to their reserves to reduce the asset) and create an asset of the amount due to them. Now explain how that works for the govt borrowing money to give to business as furlough payments etc becomes an unrepayable liability.... Even WW2 had to be paid for, or did you miss that.... |
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