[simon.]

Had a Jura F6 for a few years, now got a Sage Oracle Touch. Love it and it makes superb coffee and being duel boiler you get the milk & coffee all going simultaneously. Need to perfect latte art still but the drinks taste really good.

[KRS_SN]

Overall just get any half decent bean to cup machine. Quality of the beans is important too. Coffee beans hot water nothing else in your coffee all natural.
I had Honduras single batch. Then combian supremo then malabar beans then Ethiopian beans etc.
Its amazing to be able to enjoy different earthy tastes all black coffee of course. Bit like whisky/wine tasting. Much cheaper per cup of course.

[M33DLO]

Originally Posted by isleaiw1

Kettle and douwe Egbert....its just a cup of coffee....

Ohh my...



I run a Gaggia Brera.. It's done give or take 2 cups everyday for a year without fault, yet.
Beans from HasBean.co.uk...

[moonshine]

^ I get 250g of beans every 2 weeks from HasBean on subscription. Very good

[isleaiw1]

Originally Posted by M33DLO

Ohh my...



I run a Gaggia Brera.. It's done give or take 2 cups everyday for a year without fault, yet.
Beans from HasBean.co.uk...

To be fair I bet I dont drink two cups of coffee in the house a month - maybe even a year. Given the choice, tea..... twinings breakfast, semi skimmed milk, on the weak side, in a great big mug....Bliss.

[Tengocity]

Originally Posted by isleaiw1

To be fair I bet I dont drink two cups of coffee in the house a month - maybe even a year. Given the choice, tea..... twinings breakfast, semi skimmed milk, on the weak side, in a great big mug....Bliss.

No wonder if you're still drinking douwe egberts

[isleaiw1]

Originally Posted by Tengocity

No wonder if you're still drinking douwe egberts

My last employer had a fancy bean to cup solution in the office. Did nothing for me. I dont think I really like coffee. I love tea. And pepsi max. And malbec

My son in law loves fancy coffee. But then he is a brand snob. Is it the taste or the image? You need to do a blind test to see what you really like...

[C320]

Originally Posted by moonshine

Sage Barista Express.

Wow, I quite like the look of those, never came across these before!

What's it like to live with, cleaning etc?

[moonshine]

Originally Posted by C320

Wow, I quite like the look of those, never came across these before!

What's it like to live with, cleaning etc?

I've had mine 5yrs plus now with daily use. It never missed a beat until recently, when the solenoid began to play up and be noisy.
I sent it away for an (expensive £150 parts / labour and courier) service and repair (I had the solenoid replaced and I replaced the pump as a precautionary measure since the machine was in bits for the solenoid replacement) and it is back and I'm hoping for another 5yrs of trouble free use. To be honest, 5 yrs without a problem is good going and I was happy it could be repaired / serviced, as I like it

I mainly use it for espresso and take ua double every morning. 250g will give 15x18g double shots. The wand makes good hot milk, but I keep that for special occasions rather than routine. Just due to time it takes to clean ( maybe a minute)


Boiler is operational in about 30 sec from cold, cleaning it is as simple as wash out the drip tray when you top up the water - maybe once a week - descaling and tablet cleaning less frequent & machine tells you when required. cleaning is easy, descaling tablet cycle maybe every 3-4 months. ( But we are in soft water Scotland, so limescale is not an issue here anyway)

I like it

Think where you might put it in the kitchen & check it will fit under your high cupboards. The bean hopper might get in the road. I've got a spot

[DougMcL]

Originally Posted by C320

Wow, I quite like the look of those, never came across these before!

What's it like to live with, cleaning etc?

Sage machines are easy to live with. They perform like a proper commercial machine. If you like milk based coffee then go for the Oracle or Oracle touch as the double boiler allows you to steam milk while brewing coffee at the same time.

The way it grinds and tamps means it makes much less mess than doing it yourself. The oracle tells you when to descale and clean, though I rarely bother as our water is so soft.

[GOF_430d]

I have a Saeco Intuita machine which delivers espressos at the touch of a button and has a steam wand for frothing milk. I've had the machine for over 5 years with no issues. The machine has a lamp indicating when a descale is required and cleans its own tubes when it starts and when it is turned off.

[sensible]

I have a Krups automatic coffee maker. It does the job well and is fully automated to make the coffee shot. You then simply have to steam the milk.
It also tells you when to descale and clean, which is about every 3 months.

[Wills2]

Originally Posted by isleaiw1

Kettle and douwe Egbert....its just a cup of coffee....

I get that sentiment however I say no to instant coffee, I grind my beans but use a simple cafetiere to brew, I'm amazed at the money people will spend on a coffee machine and more so that so many of them have it to spend.

[moonshine]

Originally Posted by Wills2

I'm amazed at the money people will spend on a coffee machine and more so that so many of them have it to spend.

Says a person who has spent many £100,000’s on cars.......

“ Golf GTI/Z4C, Gone X3MC/G11 740d xdrive/F80 M3/F10 M5/F31 335d/e92 M3 x 2/F10 520d x 2/997 C2S/e46 M3/e46 320d/SL320/Touareg 3.2V6/Audi allroad 2.7TDi”



Lets say a coffee machine costs £600, and is used every day for 1 coffee for 5 yrs, that is 1,825 coffees poured over 5 yrs, or £0.32p per coffee, plus your beans.. its a bargain in my view.

[gangzoom]

Originally Posted by Wills2

I'm amazed at the money people will spend on a coffee machine and more so that so many of them have it to spend.

Been the internet and how we all love to judge others, this statement should read...

"I'm amazed at the money people will spend on a XXXX.....but its fine for me to spend XXX on XXX"

Its easy to judge, but if you can afford it who cares how you spend money, its pretty useless when you are 6ft under - which is the 100% guarantee in life at some point for everyone regardless of how much money you have in the bank account when you are about exit the world!

[gangzoom]

Originally Posted by Ennoch

My dad had a Delonghi one for a while which he cleaned properly. He started noticing a funny flavour to the coffee so gave it a clean again and noticed some black bits come out from an unserviceable bit. Removing some covers and doing some digging revealed some pipes that were absolutely covered in black mould. Utterly disgusting, and unfortunately in a bit that simply couldn't be dismantled for cleaning...

I bet you didn't expect so many Delonghi owners to go and start unscrewing their machines after that comment .

I couldn't be bothered with unscrewing the back panels, but what metal work hidden I can see looks fine. I do admit not been that regimental about cleaning all the coffee residue though, but I do carry out the descalling every month.

Our one is 2 years old now, used 2-3 times a day every day, hardly ever buy coffee when out and about now as we rather just come home to have it.

[Wills2]

Originally Posted by gangzoom

Been the internet and how we all love to judge others, this statement should read...

"I'm amazed at the money people will spend on a XXXX.....but its fine for me to spend XXX on XXX"

Its easy to judge, but if you can afford it who cares how you spend money, its pretty useless when you are 6ft under - which is the 100% guarantee in life at some point for everyone regardless of how much money you have in the bank account when you are about exit the world!

More a comment on my empty pockets and that I must try harder than anything else...but I guess people come to the internet with a pre judged attitude to posts, hence they choose to read them a certain way.

[Wills2]

Originally Posted by moonshine

Says a person who has spent many £100,000’s on cars.......

“ Golf GTI/Z4C, Gone X3MC/G11 740d xdrive/F80 M3/F10 M5/F31 335d/e92 M3 x 2/F10 520d x 2/997 C2S/e46 M3/e46 320d/SL320/Touareg 3.2V6/Audi allroad 2.7TDi”



Lets say a coffee machine costs £600, and is used every day for 1 coffee for 5 yrs, that is 1,825 coffees poured over 5 yrs, or £0.32p per coffee, plus your beans.. its a bargain in my view.

Triggered! I'm just wallowing in my new found parsimonious attitude to money or I've realised I'm poor, either way calm down dear.

[Slacky]

ended up buying a Delonghi esam 2800.sb on offer at amazon. Now can anyone recommend any coffee beans to try?

[Nibbles]

Originally Posted by Slacky

ended up buying a Delonghi esam 2800.sb on offer at amazon. Now can anyone recommend any coffee beans to try?

See if there's a local coffee roasters/shop near you as then you can try out the various beans to see which one you like before buying a batch. I use our local one and it's lovely (although expensive if you buy online, in the cafe you get a couple of free coffees with a 1kg bag) https://bionicbull.co.uk/

When they were closed during the lockdown last year I tried a few online ones and the best I found were https://www.liminicoffee.co.uk/. Their Kata blend was nice and smooth.

[stefan4]

I had a milleta bean to cup machine, it was expensive and at first it was great. But bean to cup machines are mechanically quite complicated and often have associated complications down the line.

I ditched that 12 months ago in favour of a sage barista pro, which is Semi automated. It makes a cracking cup of coffee and just as easy as the bean to cup, and far far more reliable.

For coffee, I use grind house, I think they are very reasonably priced and have a good range.

[EvilDrPorkChop]

I like these from M&S - The Peruvian being my favourite.

https://www.ocado.com/products/m-s-f...B&gclsrc=aw.ds

https://www.ocado.com/products/m-s-f...eans-510202011