Which lowering springs?

K.R._82192 · 06-04-2020, 05:47 PM

What lowering springs are best for a 453i?

7iM3less · 06-04-2020, 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by K.R._82192

What lowering springs are best for a 453i?

Damn is 453 an individual model? Don't think I've seen that on the website.

sspade · 06-04-2020, 10:59 PM

AC Schnitzer for a classy, stock looking drop that will never scrape.

Gen13 F36 · 06-04-2020, 11:14 PM

Eibach pro kit .... the cheaper AC Schnitzer that will drop it the same classy, stock looking drop that will never scrape 😏

Skyhigh · 06-05-2020, 07:17 AM

Keep in mind that AC Schnitzer may give you a reverse rake. This can be cured with additional spacers under the rear springs.

Some users report none, in my case I got a reverse rake through the ACS. Haven't decided yet how much it bothers me, but it is visible.

According to ACS - "within tollerance".

Apart from that - ACS are recommendable is you care about warranty and customer support. If you want cheap - you can get cheap (e.g. Eibach).

P.s. Why not read through or post in the correct subforum? https://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/fo...460&order=desc

alohasurftoad · 06-05-2020, 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Skyhigh

Keep in mind that AC Schnitzer may give you a reverse rake. This can be cured with additional spacers under the rear springs.

IMO, This is not recommendable

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Apart from that - ACS are recommendable is you care about warranty and customer support. If you want cheap - you can get cheap (e.g. Eibach).

FYI, Eibach makes ACS. Pro-Kit lowers more in front than rear so the drop is even. Not sure why their ACS product may have reverse rake.

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P.s. Why not read through or post in the correct subforum? https://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/fo...460&order=desc

+1, definitely this

Skyhigh · 06-05-2020, 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by alohasurftoad

IMO, This is not recommendable

What is not recommendable (the reverse rake or the extra spacers?) and from what perspective?

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FYI, Eibach makes ACS. Pro-Kit lowers more in front than rear so the drop is even. Not sure why their ACS product may have reverse rake.

This speculation has been circulating the internet for quite a few years. It may or may not be true (I personally have not seen a proof of that), but it does not really metter. The extra customer care and warranty support is what is worth the extra euros/dollars to many, considering that springs are anyway not ultra-expensive components...

sspade · 06-05-2020, 09:41 AM

Interesting comments about the reverse rake with ACS. Ive only heard of that with the DINAN kit when talking about the F30 specifically.

I do not believe I had experienced reverse rake with Bilstein B8 dampers (and ACS spring kit).

Skyhigh · 06-05-2020, 09:53 AM

Seems to depend on the kit and model of the vehicle. Many have reported no reverse rake,
plenty have reverse rake.

I have 15-17mm difference in height front and back when measured to the wheel arch.
This said, the clearance under the vehicle is not that different front and back.

Skyhigh · 06-05-2020, 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by sspade

Interesting comments about the reverse rake with ACS. Ive only heard of that with the DINAN kit when talking about the F30 specifically.

I do not believe I had experienced reverse rake with Bilstein B8 dampers (and ACS spring kit).

If you ask me, based on your photo, you definitely have a reverse rake too! Look at the rear tires and compare to the front! Could be just the photo...

Why don't you measure the distance from the centre of the wheel (the centre of the centre cap) vertically up to the wheel arch? Front and back, on all 4 wheels.

kpgray · 06-06-2020, 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by K.R._82192

What lowering springs are best for a 453i?

Waaaaay too vague of a question!

What is the result you want to accomplish? What is YOUR specific goal?
Are you tracking the car?
Do you want a stiffer ride?
Do you have adaptive suspension?
Do you want the lowering look but similar ride?

I installed Eibach Pro-Kit on my xDrive, I wanted the stock height of the Sport RWD (704 springs) from my AWD and to have the excessive xDrive wheel gap closed. I did not want to change the stiffness of the ride as I have Adaptive suspension which provides the stiffness in Sport mode.

johnung · 06-06-2020, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Skyhigh

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Originally Posted by alohasurftoad

IMO, This is not recommendable

What is not recommendable (the reverse rake or the extra spacers?) and from what perspective?

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FYI, Eibach makes ACS. Pro-Kit lowers more in front than rear so the drop is even. Not sure why their ACS product may have reverse rake.

This speculation has been circulating the internet for quite a few years. It may or may not be true (I personally have not seen a proof of that), but it does not really metter. The extra customer care and warranty support is what is worth the extra euros/dollars to many, considering that springs are anyway not ultra-expensive components...

If you are talking about whether Eibach makes ACS springs Farkle! has published the detailed specs comparing both and it's obvious.

Skyhigh · 06-06-2020, 05:42 PM

Could you provide a link to the comparison you are referring to?

Makavelif32 · 06-07-2020, 10:40 AM

H&R Super Sports

2000Z3M · 06-07-2020, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by KC328_F30

Damn is 453 an individual model? Don't think I've seen that on the website.

It is a F32 with a 5.3L V8

Makavelif32 · 06-07-2020, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by 2000Z3M

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Originally Posted by KC328_F30

Damn is 453 an individual model? Don't think I've seen that on the website.

It is a F32 with a 5.3L V8

Wait what??? Can we see pics? You got an IG?

Skyhigh · 06-07-2020, 03:09 PM

Dude.... he is joking

2000Z3M · 06-07-2020, 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Makavelif32

Wait what??? Can we see pics? You got an IG?

Back in the day the last 2 numbers was the liter output. So a 453 would be a F32 with a 5.3L V8

ETA: How low is the front lip with the H&R SS? I am at 65K miles and looking at coilovers or new shocks and the H&Rs soon.

K.R._82192 · 06-09-2020, 03:21 PM

Hey my bad guys on the 453 😂😂 it's 435 obviously. But I posted in this group before looking and seeing the sub group. Noob mistake lol. But anyway thanks for all of the recommendations. My goal is really just for looks and better handling. Would the eibach pro be good for that, or what's all your top picks for appearance and handling?

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Skyhigh Brigadier General 1882 Rep 3,869 Posts Drives: BMW F36 Join Date: Apr 2018 Location: Europe iTrader: (0)	Keep in mind that AC Schnitzer may give you a reverse rake. This can be cured with additional spacers under the rear springs. Some users report none, in my case I got a reverse rake through the ACS. Haven't decided yet how much it bothers me, but it is visible. According to ACS - "within tollerance". Apart from that - ACS are recommendable is you care about warranty and customer support. If you want cheap - you can get cheap (e.g. Eibach). P.s. Why not read through or post in the correct subforum? https://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/fo...460&order=desc __________________ "Large increases in cost with questionable increases in performance can be tolerated only in cars and women."
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