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      07-13-2013, 05:35 PM   #23
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Looks better than expected. But if I was in the market for something like this I would just get a wagon.

And realistically, with all these mini SUV type vehicles out nowadays, weird hatchbacks are pretty unnecessary.
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      07-13-2013, 06:06 PM   #24
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Lol this was available when they released the 4 series configurator
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      07-13-2013, 06:19 PM   #25
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Can't wait to see one of these on the road
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      07-13-2013, 08:10 PM   #26
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The 5GT was not a big enough flop for BMW?
The 5GT in the USA sold/sells far more units than the touring ever did per year...do you call that a flop? Until you've taken one on a long trip with 3 other adults, don't knock it! Looks very much like a BMW from the inside, when you'll spend 98% of your time with it in visual range.
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I assumed headroom because I figured the sedan was big enough to fit a car seat. Does it not fit bigger seats or something?
Plop a rear facing child seat behind you in an F30, then see how far you can move the driver's seat back, or recline if you're tall. Then, try it in an F07...the F07 is built on the 7-series short wheelbase chassis, so you get LOTS of 7-series refinements and size for 5-series price.

Until you've driven one on a long trip with a full load of adults, you don't know why it is in the market. My longest day was about 15-hours and over 1,000-miles. Got up, walked straight, felt fine, no buzz as did my passengers. The thing is big for a reason. The rear shape is there for a reason. Form follows function. You don't need the function, fine, buy something else. Like comparing skinny jeans to carpenter's overalls...same company, same quality, different clientele. Does it make you stop buying Levis because they cater to a market other than yours? Same with Porsche, purists hate they make anything other than the 911. Doesn't make the other vehicles they sell less, or the 911 less. Why should it on BMW?
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Plop a rear facing child seat behind you in an F30, then see how far you can move the driver's seat back, or recline if you're tall. Then, try it in an F07...the F07 is built on the 7-series short wheelbase chassis, so you get LOTS of 7-series refinements and size for 5-series price.
I wish BMW made something the same size/form as the F34, but with the quality of the F07 interior. Sure, it would cost $70K, but I would go for it!
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Looks nicer than I expected!
You must have very low expectations
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this just might eat up the 5GT sales
All 4 of them?
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      07-13-2013, 08:33 PM   #31
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Looks nicer than I expected!
I agree... same with my GT as well.

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I just do not like the GT's or wagons.

GT's remind me way too much of mini vans.
LOL even though I own one, I caan understand how some hate it. However, I highly suggest you check out my modded minivan link in my bio

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The 5GT was not a big enough flop for BMW?
Instead of flop, let's call it "exclusive." It's very controversial, but I love my GT.

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Why bother with the GT? Not pretty like a car or coupe and not functional like a van. If they are going to build this sh!t might as well build a BMW van atleast it will serve a functional purpose.
This thing is just an eyesore without real purpose unlike a van.
Actually, the GT's are very functional. The legroom in my F07 is unbeatable, wife loves it... it's like a 520-hp living room that hits 60 in 3.9s and handles like a proper BMW.

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this just might eat up the 5GT sales
How Dare You

Or actually, if I think about it, good. More exclusivity for me

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I used to hate the 5 GT, but this actually looks appealing. I definitely wouldn't mind owning one of these!
HOnestly, the GT looks better in person, especially in darker colors. I didn't like it before when I saw it in beige or white, but in DGM or black, it looks quite good. BMW needs to hire someone to choose their press release's car color better LOL
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      07-13-2013, 08:45 PM   #32
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My thoughts exactly. I think I've seen one on the road, ever, and it was a man that was getting driven around by his bossy wife.
I have seen two different cars. And actually I saw the second one today.

As I have said before, its the softer set up that kills it for me. Automatic deal breaker.
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      07-13-2013, 09:29 PM   #33
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The 5GT in the USA sold/sells far more units than the touring ever did per year
This is simply not true. Monthly sales volumes are comparable. You should also consider that E61 was only sold as a single model (530xi and then 535xi), while F07 is sold with two different engines and both RWD and AWD.
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You must have very low expectations
True I'm not a big fan of GTs
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      07-14-2013, 06:11 AM   #35
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As the topic says, the 3 Series GT [official thread] both the 328 and 335 configurator are up online!

http://www.bmwusa.com/standard/conte...modelcode=14TH

How is this car truly anything different than the x4?
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      07-14-2013, 08:27 AM   #36
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X3 is significantly bigger than the GT, X4 will be too.

Disappointed there's no manual option for the 335 xDrive
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we just got the '13 328 M sport last Feb and we have 2 kids. damn i should waited...
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      07-14-2013, 09:56 AM   #38
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X3 is significantly bigger than the GT, X4 will be too.
Negative. The GT wheelbase is 100mm (4") longer than the X3, rear luggage compartment is the same with seats folded down (1600 liters) and within 30 liters volume, with seats up.
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Burn them all!

I hope it flops hard, they would have been better off giving us a 335i powered f31!
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BMW has just built a batch of press vehicles for F34 US intro. All but one have ZMM.
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Why bother with the GT? Not pretty like a car or coupe and not functional like a van. If they are going to build this sh!t might as well build a BMW van atleast it will serve a functional purpose.
This thing is just an eyesore without real purpose unlike a van.
I'm obviously in the minority, but I actually love the look of this as well as the functionality.

I don't like SUVs; too big for me, but I still want to be able to haul stuff. I am often unable to load items that are too big to fit into the trunk opening of my F30, so I have to lower the rear seat backs and load it through one of the rear doors. Plus I don't like the look of wagons.

Regardless of the function, I still prefer this body style over my F30. I like the size and proportions. I won't be on the market for a new BMW until 2015, but I'll definitely keep this in mind.
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This is simply not true. Monthly sales volumes are comparable. You should also consider that E61 was only sold as a single model (530xi and then 535xi), while F07 is sold with two different engines and both RWD and AWD.
These are international, whole company sales numbers. In 2009, the Tourer was still being sold in the USA (I think)...total sales: 36,987. In the first full year when the GT was for sale, 2010, they sold 26,486 GTs and 32,488 Tourers. It may or may not be safe to assume that the 4,500 or so fewer Tourers sold were because they were no longer available in the USA, but the GTs more than took up for that, and on the more expensive vehicle, with a larger profit margin, which decision was right? You figure it out. It may have not meet the full expectations, but it did and has done well enough to continue - the bottom line, is that they sold more cars and made more money which is the reason they are in business, not to cater to a specific individual's preferences. Buy enough stock, you can help make the decisions. BMW is profitable, catering to a bigger audience is what has helped them achieve that. No whining is going to really make a difference.
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These are international, whole company sales numbers. In 2009, the Tourer was still being sold in the USA (I think)...total sales: 36,987. In the first full year when the GT was for sale, 2010, they sold 26,486 GTs and 32,488 Tourers.
First you talk about F07 doing well specifically in the US, but then you argue using worldwide numbers? This doesn't make any sense at all. It is a well known fact that GT is a success in Europe, and those numbers reflect that, but in the US it's not selling any better than Touring (not "Tourer") did. BMW managers acknowledged as much: rejecting F11 for US and using F07 to fill the void didn't work as well as they hoped.

I have the exact production numbers, specifically for USA - you can have them too, I can send you the 36MB dump of VIN range database from ETK, it breaks down production of all BMWs ever made, by month and by model (which are different for US and EU).

So, just to reiterate what I said before: four different versions of F07 are selling in the US at the exact same rate as a single version of E61 did. This was _not_ a smart business decision, no matter how you look at it.
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