[RobUK]

Originally Posted by sahajesh

The XS and XS Max weren't on sale in Q1 and the problem only affects those phones.

They were launched a couple of weeks ago.

Fair point, I didn't realise the supposed 18% phone returns figure only applied to the latest XS/XS Max phones. I'll freely admit that with every new iPhone there seems to be something that affects a few users, although I didn't see 18% that was being quoted anywhere in that Phonedog article.

By way of a contrast, the Oppo Find X phone was released not long ago and has been sighted as having major flaws especially as it's a $1,000 phone, but it's not big news because it's not Apple.

I guess haters will hate, and fanboys will... well whatever it is fanboys do. Main thing is everyone has a choice

[JustChris]

Originally Posted by RobUK

I guess haters will hate, and fanboys will... well whatever it is fanboys do. Main thing is everyone has a choice

This is far too sensible. Surely the main objective is to beat down what you don't have

[teaston]

Originally Posted by JustChris

This is far too sensible. Surely the main objective is to beat down what you don't have

Definitely, as Harry Hill said there's only one way to settle this, fiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight!

[sahajesh]

Originally Posted by teaston

Definitely, as Harry Hill said there's only one way to settle this, fiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight!

Handbags at dawn or conkers?

[Watsey]

Originally Posted by sahajesh

Handbags at dawn or conkers?

Handbags. No-one wants to see your conkers.

[teaston]

iOS 12.0.1 has been released, apparently fixes “chargegate”

[ciscopete822]

Originally Posted by teaston

iOS 12.0.1 has been released, apparently fixes “chargegate”

WiFi LTE issues too.

[sahajesh]

So it's a "be wary of a gen 1 variant" - applies to lot of complex items, not just iPhones.

Imagine the outrage if iPhones were made in Mexico

[A15X]

Well I got sucked into a new iPhone! I say sucked my iphone 7’s 2 years old and we had moved house since then and EE’s phone coverage was rubbish in our house so a network provider move was on the cards anyway.

Went for an iPhone Xs max and must say I’m happy with it love the big screen which is great for emails web browsing etc

I tried my brother’s Samsung S9 for a few days before I pushed the button on another iPhone but couldn’t get on with it...

[teaston]

Originally Posted by A15X

Well I got sucked into a new iPhone! I say sucked my iphone 7’s 2 years old and we had moved house since then and EE’s phone coverage was rubbish in our house so a network provider move was on the cards anyway.

Went for an iPhone Xs max and must say I’m happy with it love the big screen which is great for emails web browsing etc

I tried my brother’s Samsung S9 for a few days before I pushed the button on another iPhone but couldn’t get on with it...

Wow that’s a beast of a phone mate, even the Xs screen is too big to reach the opposite corner one handed, needed to turn on the Reachability option!

[JustChris]

Originally Posted by teaston

Wow that's a beast of a phone mate, even the Xs screen is too big to reach the opposite corner one handed, needed to turn on the Reachability option!

Enough of your 'one handed browsing' teaston

[teaston]

Originally Posted by JustChris

Enough of your 'one handed surfing' teaston

Damn, busted!

[A15X]

Originally Posted by teaston

Wow that’s a beast of a phone mate, even the Xs screen is too big to reach the opposite corner one handed, needed to turn on the Reachability option!

It’s certainly taking a little to get use to!

[NormanConquest]

iPhone hasn't been worth getting since the 3GS

[MashinBenzin]

Originally Posted by NormanConquest

iPhone hasn't been worth getting since the 3GS

[sahajesh]

Originally Posted by NormanConquest

iPhone hasn't been worth getting since the 3GS

Hahahahahahahaha

[teaston]

Originally Posted by NormanConquest

iPhone hasn't been worth getting since the 3GS

iPhone has only been worth getting since the 3GS!

[zofinger]

So having an iPhone 6 (c. 2014) and now held in my hand the iPhone XS and IPhone XR I’m probably staying put. The new phones, while unquestionably faster and more capable, are just too damn bulky! They’re bricks for Christ sake. When are Apple going to slim these things down - they need to go on a proper diet - too fat (thick) and too heavy in comparison. I don’t mind a bigger phone in terms of a flat surface so the screen can be bigger, but they’re damn heavy compared to the 6 or iPhone 7. In principle I don’t even mind the price - but ive decided not to pay more (compared to £649 I paid for the 6) for something I think they’re capable of fitting into a lighter/thinner shell! Here’s to 2019!

[teaston]

Originally Posted by zofinger

So having an iPhone 6 (c. 2014) and now held in my hand the iPhone XS and IPhone XR I’m probably staying put. The new phones, while unquestionably faster and more capable, are just too damn bulky! They’re bricks for Christ sake. When are Apple going to slim these things down - they need to go on a proper diet - too fat (thick) and too heavy in comparison. I don’t mind a bigger phone in terms of a flat surface so the screen can be bigger, but they’re damn heavy compared to the 6 or iPhone 7. In principle I don’t even mind the price - but ive decided not to pay more (compared to £649 I paid for the 6) for something I think they’re capable of fitting into a lighter/thinner shell! Here’s to 2019!

The larger screen and much longer lasting battery is well worthe the minimal extra bulk over the 7 imo!

[sahajesh]

Originally Posted by zofinger

So having an iPhone 6 (c. 2014) and now held in my hand the iPhone XS and IPhone XR I'm probably staying put. The new phones, while unquestionably faster and more capable, are just too damn bulky! They're bricks for Christ sake. When are Apple going to slim these things down - they need to go on a proper diet - too fat (thick) and too heavy in comparison. I don't mind a bigger phone in terms of a flat surface so the screen can be bigger, but they're damn heavy compared to the 6 or iPhone 7. In principle I don't even mind the price - but ive decided not to pay more (compared to £649 I paid for the 6) for something I think they're capable of fitting into a lighter/thinner shell! Here's to 2019!

Time to switch brands and OS then - they won't get slimmer.

Don't be fooled by claims of better battery life either - the higher-res screens are more power hungry so they are really at best keeping up with the battery life of older models, which in some ways is still an achievement.

Do be prepared to accept in some ways a worse UI due to the loss of the home button with a consequent reliance on gestures instead. Face ID will get an upgrade in 2019 so if you don't swing to Android, wait till the 2019 models.

[A15X]

Originally Posted by sahajesh

Time to switch brands and OS then - they won't get slimmer.

Don't be fooled by claims of better battery life either - the higher-res screens are more power hungry so they are really at best keeping up with the battery life of older models, which in some ways is still an achievement.

Do be prepared to accept in some ways a worse UI due to the loss of the home button with a consequent reliance on gestures instead. Face ID will get an upgrade in 2019 so if you don't swing to Android, wait till the 2019 models.

I don’t know if I agree with the battery life comment, my Xs max can easy last 1.5 days!

I have a 7 for work and Xs max personal phone and I thought I wouldn’t get on with the size or new controls but it’s second nature now and find it works really well.

[sahajesh]

Originally Posted by A15X

I don’t know if I agree with the battery life comment, my Xs max can easy last 1.5 days!

I have a 7 for work and Xs max personal phone and I thought I wouldn’t get on with the size or new controls but it’s second nature now and find it works really well.

You're an Apple shill as your username is the iPad Pro processor name in 3 years time

A lot will depend on usage etc of course and the comparison between 7 and XS Max isn't valid.

They're great phones though, but I'll stick with my 8+ for at least a year longer.