[anom3]

Welp having just sucessfully retrofitted surround view looks like this is next on the menu.

Will probably be a month or so since I have some travels this month, but will post my results when I get to doing it.

[montuno]

Is it possible to install the PMA with front and rear PDCs but without rear camera in a BMW F20?

Regards

[roxxor]

Originally Posted by montuno

Is it possible to install the PMA with front and rear PDCs but without rear camera in a BMW F20?

Regards

Yes, I believe so. Camera was not a requirement of ordering the Parking Assistant on either the F30 or F20.

[mhhforyou]

Originally Posted by jalami

someone installed rear pma??
assistant perpendicular.

Hi

I have retrofitted Park Assist with also the rear pdc sensors. The System called PMA generation2 with additional Auto PDC Funktion like F10/F15 and flank protection.
Was a loot of research because you didnt find any Infos. Also ETK dont know the Gen2 System.

Cool write-up Roxxor

[ramez75]

Hi,
I just stumbled on this thread as I am researching on retrofitting the park assist on my 2015 640iX GC. I do have rear camera, front/rear PDC, driving assistant (S5AS), all surround view and other options. I do not have though the Active with stop and go.
So I have a couple of questions and hope someone can shed some light
- First u mentioned in your first post that u needed the DSC pulse generator or replaced if the car doesn't have Active with Stop & Go. I looked at the www.realoem.com under the brakes section for my VIN number and there is two part numbers for the Hydro unit DSC depending if you have S5AT (Driving Assistant Plus) or not, but I have S5AS (Driving Assistant). Any thoughts anyone?
Also when I looked at www.realoem.com for JBE part numbers I noticed there are different JBE part numbers depending on the car options. I think I have (I didn't verify the JBE part number as I am assuming it is the one based on the options I have) the below

Sun-blind, rear S415A=Yes
and
Park Distance Control (PDC) S508A=Yes
and
Park Assistant S5DPA=No

Junction box for electronics 3 - 61359393666

but I think I will need the below

Sun-blind, rear S415A=Yes
and
Park Distance Control (PDC) S508A=Yes
and
Park Assistant S5DPA=Yes

Junction box for electronics 3 - 61359393665

Any thoughts on that

I was also wondering where did you buy the parts from, as the sensors alone NEW ofcourse are around $600

The wiring harness you listed part numbers please can you guide me if I can use the same components or where can I look to find what wiring harness components I need

I am still reading the rest of the thread but very well written.....

Thank you

[montuno]

Hello,
Do I need to have servotronic in the car so the steering wheel could turn automatically while parking?

I don't know If it's a needed equipment to make the retrofit works.

[ramez75]

Originally Posted by montuno

Hello,
Do I need to have servotronic in the car so the steering wheel could turn automatically while parking?

I don't know If it's a needed equipment to make the retrofit works.

Are you referring to the Hydro unit DSC because I have the same concern. Can I make the retrofit without it.....
Also what PMA do you have PMA-01 or PMA-02.....do you know what is the differnce. Most what's on ebay is pma-01

[ramez75]

Originally Posted by mhhforyou

Hi

I have retrofitted Park Assist with also the rear pdc sensors. The System called PMA generation2 with additional Auto PDC Funktion like F10/F15 and flank protection.
Was a loot of research because you didnt find any Infos. Also ETK dont know the Gen2 System.

Cool write-up Roxxor

What is additonal auto PDC function that PMA-02 will provide compared to PMA-01. Also is PMA-02 compatible with other modules.....or some other modules need to be replaced or added
I can find a lot of information. All what I find is PMA-01......

Thank you

[mhhforyou]

Auto PDC means if you drive slowly towards a wall or other barrier the PDC automatically turns on.

PMA Gen2 ECU looks and works the same as the Gen1. Only differenz is the possibility to hook 2 more sensor to it.
You only need to change this ECU. No other ECUs are involved.

[ramez75]

Originally Posted by mhhforyou

Auto PDC means if you drive slowly towards a wall or other barrier the PDC automatically turns on.

PMA Gen2 ECU looks and works the same as the Gen1. Only differenz is the possibility to hook 2 more sensor to it.
You only need to change this ECU. No other ECUs are involved.

Thank you mhhforyou for the clarification but I was told that park assist cannot be retrofitied in my 2015 640iX GC because it's an xdrive. The xdrive doesn't have the electronic power steering which is required for park assist to work.....so I gave up on it as EPS is not retrofittable. I will hold on to have this feature in my future car.....which is not anytime soon.

[mhhforyou]

Without EPS it dont work thats correct and nothing is not retrofittable.

The early F30/F31 xdrive models also dont have EPS.

[ramez75]

Originally Posted by mhhforyou

Without EPS it dont work thats correct and nothing is not retrofittable.

The early F30/F31 xdrive models also dont have EPS.

Yea agree with you everything is retrofitable but the cost to retrofit EPS is not worth it. I never seen anyone doing it
I will make sure on my next car to have this option

[mhhforyou]

These are the part numbers for the PMA Gen2 Ecus that have the 2 inputs for the Sensors in the rear.

6870336
6871241
6871242
6871243
6875464
6875702
6875821
6877733
6877593
6875822
6880013
6880444
6880741
6882187
6880742
6881204
6884836
6886210
6886211

[jkwhar]

Originally Posted by mhhforyou

Without EPS it dont work thats correct and nothing is not retrofittable.

The early F30/F31 xdrive models also dont have EPS.

I just checked on etk and for xdrive it shows "contains EPS control unit" from 11.2012 to current. Is this incorrect info or something different.

[mhhforyou]

Originally Posted by jkwhar

I just checked on etk and for xdrive it shows "contains EPS control unit" from 11.2012 to current. Is this incorrect info or something different.

It´s correct. Anyway you couldnt get Park Assist from factory for the F30 before LCI. There have to be another difference between xdrive and non xdrive cars that is a no go for Park Assist.

[mhhforyou]

For those who wants to retrofit PMA Gen2 u need:

- PMA Ecu (Partnumber see some posts above)
- 2x rear PDC Sensor in matching car colour
- brackets for the Sensors

F30/F35 with M Bumper 8 069 815
F30 with Normal Bumper 7 445 146
F31 with M Bumper 8 069 816
F31 with Normal Bumper 7 445 160
F32/F33/F36 with M Bumper 8 073 079
F32/F33/F36 with Normal Bumper 7 496 135

- Glue Set K6 2 317 925
- Rear Bumper site guides(no differnce between M and Normal Bumper)

For F30 7 384 465 & 7 384 466
For F32/F33/F36 7 428 731 & 7 428 732

- for the connectors you have to use a PDC rep cable because you dont get the OEM Connectors with PN 6 925 595 or 7 615 490 on its own.

You have to code HU_NBT:

MACRO_PMA_EINPARKEN > gen2_ohne_konf
PDC_FLANKENSCHUTZ > aktiv
AUTO_PDC > aktiv
COMMUNICATION_PARKMASTER > gen2

[jkwhar]

Originally Posted by mhhforyou

It´s correct. Anyway you couldnt get Park Assist from factory for the F30 before LCI. There have to be another difference between xdrive and non xdrive cars that is a no go for Park Assist.

Ah, thanks for the clarification. Good thing I didn't start parts hunting! Would've been a nice feature to have.

[Tim@codemybimmer]

Originally Posted by mhhforyou

For those who wants to retrofit PMA Gen2 u need:

- PMA Ecu (Partnumber see some posts above)
- 2x rear PDC Sensor in matching car colour
- brackets for the Sensors

F30/F35 with M Bumper 8 069 815
F30 with Normal Bumper 7 445 146
F31 with M Bumper 8 069 816
F31 with Normal Bumper 7 445 160
F32/F33/F36 with M Bumper 8 073 079
F32/F33/F36 with Normal Bumper 7 496 135

- Glue Set K6 2 317 925
- Rear Bumper site guides(no differnce between M and Normal Bumper)

For F30 7 384 465 & 7 384 466
For F32/F33/F36 7 428 731 & 7 428 732

- for the connectors you have to use a PDC rep cable because you dont get the OEM Connectors with PN 6 925 595 or 7 615 490 on its own.

You have to code HU_NBT:

MACRO_PMA_EINPARKEN > gen2_ohne_konf
PDC_FLANKENSCHUTZ > aktiv
AUTO_PDC > aktiv
COMMUNICATION_PARKMASTER > gen2

I have PMA Gen 1. Is it possible to just swap the ECU to PMA Gen 2 to gain Auto_PDC without hooking up the 2 rear sensors?

[mhhforyou]

Originally Posted by Timbits93

I have PMA Gen 1. Is it possible to just swap the ECU to PMA Gen 2 to gain Auto_PDC without hooking up the 2 rear sensors?

No it doesnt work. If you have a Gen2 Ecu but dont have the 2 Sensors, the system knows that and the complete PMA go to error mode and dont work any longer. I tried this at the start of my retrofit.

[hkgans]

Originally Posted by mhhforyou

No it doesnt work. If you have a Gen2 Ecu but dont have the 2 Sensors, the system knows that and the complete PMA go to error mode and dont work any longer. I tried this at the start of my retrofit.

Hi mhhforyou,

I have retrofitted Gen2 PMA on my 2012 F20. Auto-PDC and perpendicular parking are both working ok. However, I couldn't see any flank protection in the PDC screen. I have already set PDC_FLANKENSCHUTZ to ON in NBTEVO.

Is there any other FDL codes I need to set for the flank protection to work?

[mhhforyou]

Originally Posted by hkgans

Hi mhhforyou,

I have retrofitted Gen2 PMA on my 2012 F20. Auto-PDC and perpendicular parking are both working ok. However, I couldn't see any flank protection in the PDC screen. I have already set PDC_FLANKENSCHUTZ to ON in NBTEVO.

Is there any other FDL codes I need to set for the flank protection to work?

2012 and NBT Evo?

That did you fdl code? Your I Step current is and all ecus have the same i Step?

[jhm5]

So this retrofit is all cameras, wires, sensors and software? The power to actually turn the steering wheel comes from the existing servotronic power assist unit? There are no additional motors to turn the steering wheel?

I actually ask for a different reason. I don't want this system, but it is required on a 2018 4 Series as part of a package that is required to get adaptive headlights, which I do want. I'm trying to figure out how much complexity and weight Parking Assist adds.