05-25-2019, 11:06 AM | #3 |
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That depends on what system you have, base, hi-fi or H-K. The main deficiency with all the OEM systems isn't the speakers, it's the amps. If you're looking for higher output without changing amps the Focal does have higher sensitivity than the OEM Hi-Fi midrange, so it will be louder. The Morel has lower sensitivity, so it won't be as loud as the OEM Hi-Fi midrange. This chart compares their outputs, all with the same input voltage:
By and large, though, you'll get the best results by upgrading the amp, not the speakers. |
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05-25-2019, 11:52 AM | #4 | |
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If all you're doing is swapping the stock speakers, and running (either Focal or Morel) off the factory amp, then probably the Morels will sound a bit better. Simply because of their higher sensitivity. If you do it properly, and install an aftermarket amp, then they are both good sounding midranges. |
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05-25-2019, 12:41 PM | #5 |
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I’ve got the base stereo coded to hifi eq.
Running aftermarket amplifiers, a JL HD600/4 for my fronts and underseat woofers (already upgraded). 150w x 4 so i have plenty of power. I’ve had a few sets of focals before and found the tweeters too bright. But these have tweeter level adjustments which my previous sets didn’t. Thanks for the chart. Last edited by tonksie93; 05-25-2019 at 12:56 PM.. |
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05-25-2019, 02:30 PM | #6 |
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They have lower sensitivity. They claim 89dB, but at 2.83v, which in their case is 2.5 watts. As seen in the chart I posted with equal voltage input the Morel has the lowest output.
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05-25-2019, 03:11 PM | #7 | |
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I’m not looking for the loudest set, just the set that sounds best. Tempted to pay extra for the morels. I know focals sound bright and have been told morels sound warm, is this true? Last edited by tonksie93; 05-25-2019 at 03:22 PM.. |
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05-25-2019, 04:03 PM | #8 | |
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What happens below 120Hz is moot, that's where the under seat woofers are doing all the work. As for how they compare in the mids and highs you'd find that out by looking at the driver data sheet frequency response charts. You're out of luck there, Morel doesn't have any.
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05-25-2019, 04:09 PM | #9 |
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I don't think you can go wrong with either set.
The Focal tweeters that are typically harsh / bright sounding, are the aluminum dome ones. The ones in this set are an Aramid fibre. Totally different sound than the aluminum domes. Now, with that said... if it were my money (and I could only pick one or the other), I would go with the Morel set. The Morels will sound smoother, but the tweeter is pretty big (over 1"). Just make sure you can fit it. If I might make another suggestion (which I would pick over both of these sets), it would be an Audiofrog setup: GB10 Tweeter GB40 Woofer GB410 crossover This is what I am using in my rear doors, and although they aren't cheap... they are (in my opinion) the absolute best bang for the buck available. |
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05-25-2019, 04:26 PM | #10 |
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The tweeters may sound different, but it has nothing to do with the diaphragm material. It's not what you make it out of that matters, it's how you make them. Here again the proof would be in the charts if there were any, but for Morel there aren't.
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05-25-2019, 06:00 PM | #11 |
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Those audiofrog GBs look nice but are out of my price range. How would the GS series compare?
Out of curiosity what are you using in your fronts? |
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05-26-2019, 07:19 AM | #12 | |
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My front is an active 3-way setup, consisting of: * Sinfoni Tempo 10 tweeter (crossed from 3,650 Hz to 20K Hz. * Dynaudio Esotar 430 midrange (crossed from 200 Hz to 3,650 Hz) * Jehnert XE-200 underseat midbass (crossed from 80 Hz to 200 Hz) Reference the build here: https://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1506949 Last edited by JimmyDee; 05-26-2019 at 07:34 AM.. |
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05-26-2019, 12:19 PM | #14 |
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This isn't something you have to guess about, the answer lies in the data. I known that for the average person it might as well be the Iliad in the original archaic Greek, but if I was contemplating spending that kind of money on speakers I'd learn what the data means.
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