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      02-02-2020, 11:59 AM   #2773
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For off the shelf tunes - BM3 makes more power, and the off the Shelf M2 tune is better than any stage 1 offered by either.

BM3 also works with IOS, unlike MHD.

But MHD makes a solid product, and it’s cheaper - also, if you want the most power, a custom tune would be ideal. Most if not all the big tuners can tune on both, so the MHDs cheaper base price helps in that regard.
Interested why you say bm3 m2 tune is better than either stage 1. I agree with you but am interested to hear your opinion as to why it is better.
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No, BM3 uses OBDII to ethernet, so you either plug it into a laptop or into the wifi agent device.
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bootmod3 stage 1 93 octane

I'm running stage 1 93 octane
Went custom and I'm running full boost in all gears.
Car drives amazing!

Thoughts on running full boost in a gears?
Is it safe?

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I'm running stage 1 93 octane
Went custom and I'm running full boost in all gears.
Car drives amazing!

Thoughts on running full boost in a gears?
Is it safe?

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Its fine
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Interested why you say bm3 m2 tune is better than either stage 1. I agree with you but am interested to hear your opinion as to why it is better.
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I'm running stage 1 93 octane
Went custom and I'm running full boost in all gears.
Car drives amazing!

Thoughts on running full boost in a gears?
Is it safe?

2012 328i sportline
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Its fine
Thanks!
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Interested why you say bm3 m2 tune is better than either stage 1. I agree with you but am interested to hear your opinion as to why it is better.
https://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...620&page=2
Wow, this is exactly what i have been looking for for months. I liked the m2 thne because it feels more linear and useable. Thanks for sharing! I am going to flash back to m2 tune!
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Wow, this is exactly what i have been looking for for months. I liked the m2 thne because it feels more linear and useable. Thanks for sharing! I am going to flash back to m2 tune!
Is the v7 M2 tune good to go, or are you running an older version?
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Wow, this is exactly what i have been looking for for months. I liked the m2 thne because it feels more linear and useable. Thanks for sharing! I am going to flash back to m2 tune!
Is the v7 M2 tune good to go, or are you running an older version?
V7 is for the stage 1 tunes. The m2 tune is v1.

For what its worth i was running v7 stage 1 without issues but i just really dont like the power delivery. Its super non linear witha huge amount of torque down low but it really runs out of breath up top. The m2 tune is much more linear.
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Can someone explain what the difference in the Octane is between the tunes? How would I know if I need the 91 octane map or the 93 octane map?
Not sure if your joking but......

If you put 91 octane then use 91 octane map and so forth for 93 octane and 95 octane.
Octane ratings is the tempeture in which the fuel combusts.

Higher octane ratings such as 93 combusts at a higher temperature
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i have a mate doing bm3 on his 15 335i, can he flash v6.4 or only v7? he has never owned bm3 before. (i have saved every map since 6.1)
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I don't have an anti virus. And yes I install stuff on my Mac all the time, much of it third party.


Edit: it wasn't the firewall or antivirus, both of those are shutoff. It was oddly enough the more stringent file checking in the new OS. I was able to get around it.

Now on to fixing the dashboard issues
How were you able to get around this? I'm trying to get up and running with BM3 but just ran into this issue.
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Edit: it wasn't the firewall or antivirus, both of those are shutoff. It was oddly enough the more stringent file checking in the new OS. I was able to get around it.

Now on to fixing the dashboard issues
How were you able to get around this? I'm trying to get up and running with BM3 but just ran into this issue.
Never mind figured it out.
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Hey for us N20 folk, I did see Halim mention in the FB group he would add GTS startup for us
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Got my car out on the highway today for work, first time since the tune. I put my foot in it from a 70mph roll, pretty darn quick. Some of the posts I have read prior to doing the stage1 tune was that you only pickup about 20hp on the peak, but more midrange. There's definitely a lot more midrange punch but it certainly felt like a helluva lot more than 20hp on the high end as well. It pulled pretty hard from 70 mph and I was pretty impressed with the "stage 1" tune.
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Got my car out on the highway today for work, first time since the tune. I put my foot in it from a 70mph roll, pretty darn quick. Some of the posts I have read prior to doing the stage1 tune was that you only pickup about 20hp on the peak, but more midrange. There's definitely a lot more midrange punch but it certainly felt like a helluva lot more than 20hp on the high end as well. It pulled pretty hard from 70 mph and I was pretty impressed with the "stage 1" tune.
Note, the peak is not on the "high end" (of the RPM range). So what you experienced is not contrary to that observation. The stock turbo generally just falls off up top (designed for low RPM spool and torque/responsiveness), and the tunes help a lot with trying to maintain that, to the extent possible with hardware limitations.

How just wait until you get a DP and go stage 2
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i have a mate doing bm3 on his 15 335i, can he flash v6.4 or only v7? he has never owned bm3 before. (i have saved every map since 6.1)
Can use either version 6.4 or newest version 7.0. Guys have been flashing back and forth as they keep adding bug fixes to v7.0
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i have a mate doing bm3 on his 15 335i, can he flash v6.4 or only v7? he has never owned bm3 before. (i have saved every map since 6.1)
Can use either version 6.4 or newest version 7.0. Guys have been flashing back and forth as they keep adding bug fixes to v7.0
Are you sure as I believe the previous version falls away if you don't save it? I have just checked under the ots maps sub menu and only version 7 is available that means any new comers to bm3 will be forced to run these maps and probably have quite a bad experience
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i have a mate doing bm3 on his 15 335i, can he flash v6.4 or only v7? he has never owned bm3 before. (i have saved every map since 6.1)
Can use either version 6.4 or newest version 7.0. Guys have been flashing back and forth as they keep adding bug fixes to v7.0
Are you sure as I believe the previous version falls away if you don't save it? I have just checked under the ots maps sub menu and only version 7 is available that means any new comers to bm3 will be forced to run these maps and probably have quite a bad experience
I am not sure. I was just repeating what others had said. As you indicated, maybe they could go back to version 6.4 because they had it previously installed.

However, I don't think issues are showing up in v7.0 unless you are installing Stage2 and/or other than 91/93 pump gas. The overboost/throttle cut symptoms would only show up at higher boost pressures.
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i have a mate doing bm3 on his 15 335i, can he flash v6.4 or only v7? he has never owned bm3 before. (i have saved every map since 6.1)
Can use either version 6.4 or newest version 7.0. Guys have been flashing back and forth as they keep adding bug fixes to v7.0
Are you sure as I believe the previous version falls away if you don't save it? I have just checked under the ots maps sub menu and only version 7 is available that means any new comers to bm3 will be forced to run these maps and probably have quite a bad experience
I am not sure. I was just repeating what others had said. As you indicated, maybe they could go back to version 6.4 because they had it previously installed.

However, I don't think issues are showing up in v7.0 unless you are installing Stage2 and/or other than 91/93 pump gas. The overboost/throttle cut symptoms would only show up at higher boost pressures.
No what I mean is new comers to bm3 won't have had bm3 before example someone new to bm3 loading stage 2 91 map today would be forced to use the v7 map and they all got issues making their experience quite poor, if you understand what I'm trying to say
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i have a mate doing bm3 on his 15 335i, can he flash v6.4 or only v7? he has never owned bm3 before. (i have saved every map since 6.1)
Can use either version 6.4 or newest version 7.0. Guys have been flashing back and forth as they keep adding bug fixes to v7.0
Are you sure as I believe the previous version falls away if you don't save it? I have just checked under the ots maps sub menu and only version 7 is available that means any new comers to bm3 will be forced to run these maps and probably have quite a bad experience
I am not sure. I was just repeating what others had said. As you indicated, maybe they could go back to version 6.4 because they had it previously installed.

However, I don't think issues are showing up in v7.0 unless you are installing Stage2 and/or other than 91/93 pump gas. The overboost/throttle cut symptoms would only show up at higher boost pressures.
No what I mean is new comers to bm3 won't have had bm3 before example someone new to bm3 loading stage 2 91 map today would be forced to use the v7 map and they all got issues making their experience quite poor, if you understand what I'm trying to say
Yes, I understand. I'm saying that new comers are unlikely to experience an issue with version 7.0 unless they are pushing it with high boost. N55 EWG 91 octane may not get high enough to have a problem.

I have a friend running BM3 N55 EWG 93 octane version 7.0 for weeks and said that he hasn't experienced issues. He's looking to find time and a stretch of roadway to see what his logs will say.
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i have a mate doing bm3 on his 15 335i, can he flash v6.4 or only v7? he has never owned bm3 before. (i have saved every map since 6.1)
Can use either version 6.4 or newest version 7.0. Guys have been flashing back and forth as they keep adding bug fixes to v7.0
Are you sure as I believe the previous version falls away if you don't save it? I have just checked under the ots maps sub menu and only version 7 is available that means any new comers to bm3 will be forced to run these maps and probably have quite a bad experience
I am not sure. I was just repeating what others had said. As you indicated, maybe they could go back to version 6.4 because they had it previously installed.

However, I don't think issues are showing up in v7.0 unless you are installing Stage2 and/or other than 91/93 pump gas. The overboost/throttle cut symptoms would only show up at higher boost pressures.
No what I mean is new comers to bm3 won't have had bm3 before example someone new to bm3 loading stage 2 91 map today would be forced to use the v7 map and they all got issues making their experience quite poor, if you understand what I'm trying to say
Yes, I understand. I'm saying that new comers are unlikely to experience an issue with version 7.0 unless they are pushing it with high boost. N55 EWG 91 octane may not get high enough to have a problem.

I have a friend running BM3 N55 EWG 93 octane version 7.0 for weeks and said that he hasn't experienced issues. He's looking to find time and a stretch of roadway to see what his logs will say.
Logs will tell the truth, I'm sure we'll find overboost , HPFP drop and throttle cut. It's the main issue of V7.0 . Lots of people have had this same issue , I'm sure his logs will show it.
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