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      01-10-2018, 02:26 PM   #1
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Talking OBD Flash Tune From Active Autowerke **No ECU REMOVAL REQUIRED**



Can be done from home with the use of the Simon Cable.

You still have the option to send your ECU to Active direct if you do not wish to purchase the Simon Cable.

Active Autowerke offers unparalleled performance software. Through careful remapping of the factory BMW DME tables, various elements such as ignition timing, fuel delivery, and part throttles are reworked to create performance gains.
The Active Autowerke upgraded software is designed to operate with gasoline that has an average octane rating with full emissions to create a clean burning combustion with good AFR’s all within factory specifications.

Available Options:
  • Cold start delete
  • Stage 1 or Stage 2 maps for 91-93 octane
  • Off Road Only Downpipe Map
  • Burble Option
  • Tuner flag removal
  • OBD Flashing Option

Performance Specs:
  • Up to 80hp gains : Rear wheel HP measured on the dyno

This is an OBD flash tune, no need to remove the ECU

Attention Florida Customers: If you are local to Active Autowerke (9940 SW 168th Terrace, Miami, FL 33157), there is no need to purchase the Simon Cable. All you need to do is purchase the map from Extreme Power House and drive down to AA for a free install.



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Dyno from a customer.


Car mods: Catless Downpipe

Note: Car is using stock intercooler. Temps were going over 180 degrees on high RPM which caused the ECU to cut power.
A car with a quality aftermarket intercooler will make even more power on high RPM.

Flash Tune vs stock



Same customer, same day same car with Active A piggy.
Im posting this A8 dyno to showcase the power delivery difference between the Active flash and their piggy.

Active 8 Vs Stock


F30 335 Stock (With Downpipe) vs Active Autowerke OBD Flash Stage 2 +65whp / +109wtq
(notice how important a quality FMIC is to this car. it loses a lot of power after 5500 RPM)

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what is the simon cable ? is it possible to use it without active autowerke tunes just to flash F series car via obd custom tune?

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Can be done from home with the use of the Simon Cable.

You still have the option to send your ECU to Active direct if you do not wish to purchase the Simon Cable.

Active Autowerke offers unparalleled performance software. Through careful remapping of the factory BMW DME tables, various elements such as ignition timing, fuel delivery, and part throttles are reworked to create performance gains.
The Active Autowerke upgraded software is designed to operate with gasoline that has an average octane rating with full emissions to create a clean burning combustion with good AFR’s all within factory specifications.

Available Options:
  • Cold start delete
  • Stage 1 or Stage 2 maps for 91-93 octane
  • Off Road Only Downpipe Map
  • Burble Option
  • Tuner flag removal
  • OBD Flashing Option

Performance Specs:
  • Up to 80hp gains : Rear wheel HP measured on the dyno

This is an OBD flash tune, no need to remove the ECU
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what is the simon cable ? is it possible to use it without active autowerke tunes just to flash F series car via obd custom tune?
You need the Simon cable to flash the car without removing the ECU.

If you do not wish to use it, you will need to remove your ECU for unlock.
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yes I understand, just I'm repeating my question : can I flash any tune using simons cable or only active autowerke one (which one I'm not interested in)? I'm interested just in ECU flashing via OBD nothing more.

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You need the Simon cable to flash the car without removing the ECU.

If you do not wish to use it, you will need to remove your ECU for unlock.
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yes I understand, just I'm repeating my question : can I flash any tune using simons cable or only active autowerke one (which one I'm not interested in)? I'm interested just in ECU flashing via OBD nothing more.
Its specific to AA tunes
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Its specific to AA tunes
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Can this option be use along with bmw ppk?
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Can this option be use along with bmw ppk?
No you cannot use 2 flash tunes together
You can do flash + piggy
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pricing for tune? pricing for maps? pricing for cable?
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pricing for tune? pricing for maps? pricing for cable?
Done
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This is great! More options... I'm also interested in all the info you could send me please...
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Dyno from a customer.


Car mods: Catless Downpipe

Note: Car is using stock intercooler. Temps were going over 180 degrees on high RPM which caused the ECU to cut power.
A car with a quality aftermarket intercooler will make even more power on high RPM.




Same customer, same day same car with Active A piggy.
Im posting this A8 dyno to showcase the power delivery difference between the Active flash and their piggy.

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No you cannot use 2 flash tunes together
You can do flash + piggy
Does this mean I could use this flash in addition to my current Active8 piggyback tune & stack the results?

I already have the Simon3 cable from my 2009 E92 - will it work fine with my F32?
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Does this mean I could use this flash in addition to my current Active8 piggyback tune & stack the results?

I already have the Simon3 cable from my 2009 E92 - will it work fine with my F32?
you will need another simon cable.
You could use the piggy as a boost controller and the flash tune will control everything else
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Dyno from a customer.


Car mods: Catless Downpipe

Note: Car is using stock intercooler. Temps were going over 180 degrees on high RPM which caused the ECU to cut power.
A car with a quality aftermarket intercooler will make even more power on high RPM.




Same customer, same day same car with Active A piggy.
Im posting this A8 dyno to showcase the power delivery difference between the Active flash and their piggy.

Hi Mike its Carl NYC spoke to you yesterday by phone. So I am going to assume that the top graph is the AA tune and the bottom graph is the AA piggy? The flash tune looks impressive if thats the case.
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Hi Mike its Carl NYC spoke to you yesterday by phone. So I am going to assume that the top graph is the AA tune and the bottom graph is the AA piggy? The flash tune looks impressive if thats the case.
You are correct
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You are correct
Well as discussed,Wagner EVO2 FMIC,AA charge pipe, AA flash,Simon Cable. Stock cat and turbo for now. Like what I see.

Now does the initial SW still have to be first downloaded by a vendor/shop? Then you are able to download to your laptop with the Simon cable? Not too clear on the process.
I'm not gonna even attempt to remove the ecu from the mani at least I am hoping I will not have to.
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Sorry been a long week. Where do I see pricing ? Could you please explain in detail. How much for Simon. How much for the maps. What maps do I get. Etc.

Please explain tuner flash removal.

Can you give us background in Aa. They are German right ? How long been in biz. How long making maps.

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Well as discussed,Wagner EVO2 FMIC,AA charge pipe, AA flash,Simon Cable. Stock cat and turbo for now. Like what I see.

Now does the initial SW still have to be first downloaded by a vendor/shop? Then you are able to download to your laptop with the Simon cable? Not too clear on the process.
I'm not gonna even attempt to remove the ecu from the mani at least I am hoping I will not have to.
Process is very simple:
We send you the Simon Cable
You connect it to your OBD and upload the map
Thats it!

No ECU removal needed, not messing with any hardware
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