[Jadar]

Originally Posted by FThirtyFive

PTF boys just tuned my buddy's N55 PS1, seriously fucked up fast on meth. I am so speechless right now riding shotgun no words. F&@cked up

What kind of boost is it holding with meth, and have any logs available?

[yoandry]

Originally Posted by Dejan_

What kind of boost is it holding with meth, and have any logs available?

Hey Dejan, I though you wanted it ps2. Isn't ps1 full price for ps2. Whats the hold? Is ps2 to notable for dealer warranty works? thats what holding me a little bit for now.

[Jadar]

Originally Posted by yoandry

Hey Dejan, I though you wanted it ps2. Isn't ps1 full price for ps2. Whats the hold? Is ps2 to notable for dealer warranty works? thats what holding me a little bit for now.

I have ps1 installed but I just wanted to see some of his logs with meth use. Im going to throw on meth this spring. Im holding out for a stage 2 ball bearing. No PS1 ran me $805 bucks + shipping which was like $30 plus my core return. PS2 is $2500 plus supporting mods.

Nah looking at it form the outside PS2 looks just like OEM. I mean if they drop the down pipe they will notice the large impeller and bored out turbo fold.

[FThirtyFive]

What were the gains for you guys going with pure stage 1 or 2 on pump 93 gas?

[shivaswrath]

Originally Posted by Dejan_

I have ps1 installed but I just wanted to see some of his logs with meth use. Im going to throw on meth this spring. Im holding out for a stage 2 ball bearing. No PS1 ran me $805 bucks + shipping which was like $30 plus my core return. PS2 is $2500 plus supporting mods.

Nah looking at it form the outside PS2 looks just like OEM. I mean if they drop the down pipe they will notice the large impeller and bored out turbo fold.

Dejan, I might be doing the Bm3 soon! Will PM you shortly....

What are you#'s on p1?

I'm assuming we'll hit similar numbers...

[Alex@VNV-Speed]

Originally Posted by shivaswrath

Dejan, I might be doing the Bm3 soon! Will PM you shortly....

What are you#'s on p1?

I'm assuming we'll hit similar numbers...

We did Dejan's turbo install and tuning. Just been on hold because it's off season and our pump gas sucks during the winter. Mustang "heartbreaker" numbers were 379whp and 411wtq. So approx 425whp/460wtq on dynojet. We'll improve that as soon as we finish development on our standalone TMAP scalar. Currently in alpha stage.

[Jadar]

Originally Posted by Alex@ACF

We did Dejan's turbo install and tuning. Just been on hold because it's off season and our pump gas sucks during the winter. Mustang "heartbreaker" numbers were 379whp and 411wtq. So approx 425whp/460wtq on dynojet. We'll improve that as soon as we finish development on our standalone TMAP scalar. Currently in alpha stage.

And some meth .

[FSociety]

Originally Posted by Alex@ACF

We did Dejan's turbo install and tuning. Just been on hold because it's off season and our pump gas sucks during the winter. Mustang "heartbreaker" numbers were 379whp and 411wtq. So approx 425whp/460wtq on dynojet. We'll improve that as soon as we finish development on our standalone TMAP scalar. Currently in alpha stage.

Not bad, that powerband must be much better than on stock turbo.

This local AWD Mustang Dyno I went to said his reads 18% lower on RWD & 20-25% for AWD.. which I found weird cuz typically is 10-12%, but then there's some rare ones reading 15% and few yrs ago I went to another one who said 20-25%.

I did 280/280 stock w/ fmic & DP then 320/370 on my current BM3 map. Going back to my original Dynojet where I have a baseline as well + some dyno from when I had jb4 too. Going to dyno my 93 BM3 + a e30 blend map in a few weeks. I don't care about the number for me its all about the delta and powerband

Just to give you guys an idea how some cars Dyno at this Mustang shop
- 15' 435xi 6MT fbo + JB4 Map2 = 285/325
- 15 335xi DP + JB4 map2 = 260whp 290wtq

I hate how crazy the MD can range in reading

Originally Posted by Dejan_

And some meth .

Should be nice! Cant wait, AEM ?

[Alex@VNV-Speed]

Originally Posted by FSociety

Not bad, that powerband must be much better than on stock turbo.

This local AWD Mustang Dyno I went to said his reads 18% lower on RWD & 20-25% for AWD.. which I found weird cuz typically is 10-12%, but then there's some rare ones reading 15% and few yrs ago I went to another one who said 20-25%.

I did 280/280 stock w/ fmic & DP then 320/370 on my current BM3 map. Going back to my original Dynojet where I have a baseline as well + some dyno from when I had jb4 too. Going to dyno my 93 BM3 + a e30 blend map in a few weeks. I don't care about the number for me its all about the delta and powerband

Just to give you guys an idea how some cars Dyno at this Mustang shop
- 15' 435xi 6MT fbo + JB4 Map2 = 285/325
- 15 335xi DP + JB4 map2 = 260whp 290wtq

I hate how crazy the MD can range in reading

Should be nice! Cant wait, AEM ?

Yeah that's a very old mustang dyno who hasn't upgraded his software I spent hours talking with the Mustsng CEO and any of the newer models including the older ones with their new software and hardware packages are spot on across the board. I use 2 mustangs regularly never deviates more than 5% and it's all due to fueling and weather/ cooling capability. Also to dyno properly you need fresh spark plugs or everything will get skewed immensely. My dynojet results even on the ssme unit st the same shop vary 20-30% between days.

[Jadar]

Originally Posted by FSociety

Not bad, that powerband must be much better than on stock turbo.

This local AWD Mustang Dyno I went to said his reads 18% lower on RWD & 20-25% for AWD.. which I found weird cuz typically is 10-12%, but then there's some rare ones reading 15% and few yrs ago I went to another one who said 20-25%.

I did 280/280 stock w/ fmic & DP then 320/370 on my current BM3 map. Going back to my original Dynojet where I have a baseline as well + some dyno from when I had jb4 too. Going to dyno my 93 BM3 + a e30 blend map in a few weeks. I don't care about the number for me its all about the delta and powerband

Just to give you guys an idea how some cars Dyno at this Mustang shop
- 15' 435xi 6MT fbo + JB4 Map2 = 285/325
- 15 335xi DP + JB4 map2 = 260whp 290wtq

I hate how crazy the MD can range in reading



Should be nice! Cant wait, AEM ?

Yes, I need a standalone system since I did away with jb4, but I'd love to utilize their stealth tank.

[harkes]

Originally Posted by shivaswrath

Dejan, I might be doing the Bm3 soon! Will PM you shortly....

What are you#'s on p1?

I'm assuming we'll hit similar numbers...

PS1 for me with stock flash and JB4:

Stock dynoed @ 286WHP/420WNM

Modified @ 355WHP - flat 16psi to redline with CM10 80/20 meth. 100% PWM above 6000rpm (turbo maxed out). Very hot and humid day (30°C). Timing not great...

[Jadar]

Originally Posted by harkes

PS1 for me with stock flash and JB4:

Stock dynoed @ 286WHP/420WNM

Modified @ 355WHP - flat 16psi to redline with CM10 80/20 meth. 100% PWM above 6000rpm (turbo maxed out). Very hot and humid day (30°C). Timing not great...

I made 379whp and 411whtq on a mustang dyno and a jb4/flash combo. My pwm maxed out as well up top.

[mr_kay]

Originally Posted by Dejan_

I made 379whp and 411whtq on a mustang dyno and a jb4/flash combo. My pwm maxed out as well up top.

Any benefits to the stacked jb4/BM3 with the PS1? I only see it being usable if you're running meth and/or e85

[FSociety]

EDIT:

Originally Posted by mr_kay

Any benefits to the stacked jb4/BM3 with the PS1? I only see it being usable if you're running meth and/or e85

Dont need to run jb4 for only meth/e85, the jb4 has their BMS Meth kit and the Fuel-It controller for integration to those using jb4. The Standalone Controller for Meth & Port Injection has been out long first than the bms integrated one that are restricted to only jb4. The way it has been jb4 is for n20 tmap (21psi+, on the N55). JB4 is no longer needed on the S55/S63Tu engines as they can achieve above 24psi (their hard-coded limit) on Flash only. This makes the N55 a little more complicated instead. For PS1, you can max it out with Flash only.

Originally Posted by Dejan_

Yes, I need a standalone system since I did away with jb4, but I'd love to utilize their stealth tank.

Yes I would get the tank and use the popular AEM 30-3300 Kit comes with AEM Electronics Boost Safe output--this allows you to retard timing or reduce boost if the systems run out of fluid or detect an error. Once installed, the AEM water/methanol injection kits use a boost-dependent, variable-flow progressive controller to determine the amount of water/methanol mixture to feed into the inlet stream from the reservoir. Also looks like the Snow Performance has a good controller with info.

[mr_kay]

Originally Posted by FSociety

Dont need to run jb4 for only meth/e85, the jb4 has their BMS Meth kit and the Fuel-It controller for integration to those using jb4. The way it has been jb4 is for n20 tmap (21psi+, on the N55). JB4 is no longer needed on the S55/S63Tu engines as they can achieve above 24psi (their hard-coded limit) on Flash only. This makes the N55 a little more complicated instead. For PS1, you can max it out with Flash only.


Yes I would get the tank and use the popular AEM 30-3300 Kit comes with AEM Electronics Boost Safe output--this allows you to retard timing or reduce boost if the systems run out of fluid or detect an error. Once installed, the AEM water/methanol injection kits use a boost-dependent, variable-flow progressive controller to determine the amount of water/methanol mixture to feed into the inlet stream from the reservoir.

Ahh.. I completely forgot about the TMAP limit on the stock sensor.

I'm still waiting to hear about any news or possibility on BM3 being able to have antilag or no lift shift.

[shivaswrath]

ok phew I was wondering why everyone is running a JB4. My 2012 Did NOT like it.
I'm looking forward to getting my situation sorted, I'm waiting for my license from Enzo/BM3!

[Jadar]

Originally Posted by shivaswrath

ok phew I was wondering why everyone is running a JB4. My 2012 Did NOT like it.
I'm looking forward to getting my situation sorted, I'm waiting for my license from Enzo/BM3!

My car ran ok for a while with jb4 but then one day it all turned into the grim reaper

[FSociety]

Originally Posted by shivaswrath

ok phew I was wondering why everyone is running a JB4. My 2012 Did NOT like it.
I'm looking forward to getting my situation sorted, I'm waiting for my license from Enzo/BM3!

So many variables on why it didn't work, its not that easy to get it going on your current setup so yes it definitely needed tweaking, a lot of other ppl spend months tweaking since each car is a bit different.
Most of us get excited of what it can do, but not realize there's a learning curve that some of us do not have time for.

Originally Posted by Dejan_

My car ran ok for a while with jb4 but then one day it all turned into the grim reaper

Same here lol

[yoandry]

Originally Posted by FSociety

So many variables on why it didn't work, its not that easy to get it going on your current setup so yes it definitely needed tweaking, a lot of other ppl spend months and spends tweaking since each car is a bit different.
Most of us get excited of what it can do, but not realize there's a learning curve that some of us do not have l

Yeap, you need to spend some time and a lot of logs to get it work as it should be. Also adding e85 and FBO part that will cause boost leak, upon bad connections.

[sicmadek]

Is there boost by gear?

[FThirtyFive]

Yeah BM3 has boost by gear.

[sicmadek]

Originally Posted by FThirtyFive

Yeah BM3 has boost by gear.

Is it easy to set up on the user end?