[OC40]

Originally Posted by drob23

Only pic I could find of a tranny in a BMW was E36 I think

[135iMsportCoupe]

Originally Posted by 435iaffair

Thanks for the detailed review, it's always nice to hear what others think of the F32.

This is actually my first automatic transmission car in over a decade. I love the zf 8speed in the F3x cars. Don't feel like it's too many gears at all, and the shifts are pretty darn quick for a non-DCT.

That's odd; my friends who are taller than 5'9" never had any headroom issues; did you lower the seat all the way?

And there's nothing wrong with that as it is a very fun car to drive.

You're absolutely right...the ZF 8 spd is brilliant, mechanically...and my ZF 6 shifts just as quickly.

About headroom: it seems ppl thought I meant front seat headroom. I was talking about REAR SEAT HEADROOM and legroom. I climbed back there and said to myself "no reason to ever buy this car. I already have a better driver with no back seat and it's PAID FOR!"

[135iMsportCoupe]

Originally Posted by 335BOY

+1..yet "the nav is the best around" and every enthusiast knows that Nav is a must have.......

Look, friend, I've owned 2 3's, a 5, a Porsche Cayman S, and 3 Garmins, and in my opinion, the 428 GPS is my favorite.

[335BBS]

Originally Posted by begge

The only difference between the standard 428 and 135 interiors is that the 135 has a shit armrest that interferes with the cupholders. They both have the same crap plastic box between the rear passengers and no center armrest.

Isnt dash and console totally different?

[135iMsportCoupe]

Originally Posted by 335BBS

Isnt dash and console totally different?

Not significantly. I felt right at home with the controls.

[Blubaron79]

I own an auto 6 speed in my 335. 8 speed ZF > 6 ZF all day. My track helmet had trouble fitting in the 428 and 435, but I'm 6 foot and without the helmet I was fine. Lower your seat.

N20 is a great engine too. It's not N54 in your 135, but it kills most 3.0 or 3.5 sixes on the market.

[335BBS]

Originally Posted by begge

Look, friend, I've owned 2 3's, a 5, a Porsche Cayman S, and 3 Garmins, and in my opinion, the 428 GPS is my favorite.

Congratulations. i bet the 135 was as much fun (or more) as any of them. I think it looks goofy but I gather it is rocket and a ball to drive.

[135iMsportCoupe]

Originally Posted by 335BBS

Is being and enthusiast all about HP? Lots of enthusiasts drive Miatas, BRZ, MGB etc. Whats your definition?

My definition of "enthusiast" has 2 elements: you've owned other BMWs or you've owned other luxo sport coupes by which to compare. Being both, I am saying that, having had 320hp, I can't go back to 220 (or whatever).

[335BBS]

So if you track a Miata/Mustang/Golf etc and love to work on them you arent an enthusiast?

[OC40]

Originally Posted by begge

My definition of "enthusiast" has 2 elements: you've owned other BMWs or you've owned other luxo sport coupes by which to compare. Being both, I am saying that, having had 320hp, I can't go back to 220 (or whatever).

I'm definitely not an enthusiast, but your definition of enthusiast is completely incorrect. First, one does not have to own or have owned a coupe to be an enthusiast. Second, one does not have to have owned multiple BMWs to be an enthusiast.

[135iMsportCoupe]

Originally Posted by 335BBS

Congratulations. i bet the 135 was as much fun (or more) as any of them. I think it looks goofy but I gather it is rocket and a ball to drive.

You are right again. I don't miss my Cayman S at all. Btw, since you seem like a friendly, reasonable person, I would share that I've personalized my 135 substantially, with all the OEM carbon fiber pieces, both exterior and interior; a CF roof wrap, a 2x2 exhaust with CF diffuser, and the M Performance Power Kit. It's my baby 1M, and as BMW used to say in the 60's, it " Runs like schnell"!

[135iMsportCoupe]

Originally Posted by OC40

I'm definitely not an enthusiast, but your definition of enthusiast is completely incorrect. First, one does not have to own or have owned a coupe to be an enthusiast. Second, one does not have to have owned multiple BMWs to be an enthusiast.

I'll add a third: an enthusiast spends money to make his ride cool in a unique way. What's your definition? Apparently you feel like I left you out....

[Rasengan]

Originally Posted by begge

I'll add a third: an enthusiast spends money to make his ride cool in a unique way. What's your definition? Apparently you feel like I left you out....

that is also incorrect as many real hard core enthusiasts would buy a real old classic and restore it to their original OEM factory condition...it is apparent you really don't have a clue what being an enthusiast is all about

[135iMsportCoupe]

Originally Posted by 335BBS

So if you track a Miata/Mustang/Golf etc and love to work on them you arent an enthusiast?

Of course such an owner is an enthusiast. Try and understand...this is BIMMERPOST. I was limiting my definition to BMW enthusiasts. IMHO, I don't think many people who meet my definition of "BMW enthusiast" would choose a 4 banger over a six if money was no object.

[OC40]

Originally Posted by begge

I'll add a third: an enthusiast spends money to make his ride cool in a unique way. What's your definition? Apparently you feel like I left you out....

I truly do not. How does your statement make me feel left out? I stated in my initial sentence that I am not an enthusiast. Please read before arguing.

[drob23]

LOL...this reminds me of people trying to prove they're a "real" fan of a sports team. Especially in college sports where "if you didn't go there, you're not a true fan".

[135iMsportCoupe]

Originally Posted by OC40

I truly do not. How does your statement make me feel left out? I stated in my initial sentence that I am not an enthusiast. Please read before arguing.

Well, for a non-enthusiast, you sure have a lot to say, except how YOU define "enthusiast" . As I was just saying in another reply, this is BIMMERPOST , my friend...not ENTHUSIASTPOST. When I declared the 428i to not be enthusiast material, I meant to true BMW enthusiasts, which you say you are not one of (as I read you). Do you know what an M3 is? Chances are very few M3 owners could get excited about a 428i. On the other hand, a Mazda 6 owner could. *end of story*

[135iMsportCoupe]

Originally Posted by drob23

LOL...this reminds me of people trying to prove they're a "real" fan of a sports team. Especially in college sports where "if you didn't go there, you're not a true fan".

Good analogy

[135iMsportCoupe]

Originally Posted by Rasengan

that is also incorrect as many real hard core enthusiasts would buy a real old classic and restore it to their original OEM factory condition...it is apparent you really don't have a clue what being an enthusiast is all about

Are you the same guy as OC40? If not, read my replies to him/her on the subject of "enthusiast".

[OC40]

Originally Posted by begge

Well, for a non-enthusiast, you sure have a lot to say, except how YOU define "enthusiast" . As I was just saying in another reply, this is BIMMERPOST , my friend...not ENTHUSIASTPOST. When I declared the 428i to not be enthusiast material, I meant to true BMW enthusiasts, which you say you are not one of (as I read you). Do you know what an M3 is? Chances are very few M3 owners could get excited about a 428i. On the other hand, a Mazda 6 owner could. *end of story*

You, ma'am/sir, are an ridiculous. Yes, I so know what an M3 is. Matter of fact, I almost purchased one before I decided on a 335 MSport with the M Performance Suspension. You seem to enjoy arguing. Do you have Napoleon Symdrome?

[335BBS]

Originally Posted by begge

You are right again. I don't miss my Cayman S at all. Btw, since you seem like a friendly, reasonable person, I would share that I've personalized my 135 substantially, with all the OEM carbon fiber pieces, both exterior and interior; a CF roof wrap, a 2x2 exhaust with CF diffuser, and the M Performance Power Kit. It's my baby 1M, and as BMW used to say in the 60's, it " Runs like schnell"!

You DON'T mais your Cayman? Thats among my favorite cars. I did the BMW CF interior too. Not a fan of fake CF though. Didnt BMW make a 4cyl M3 at one point?

[Rasengan]

Originally Posted by begge

Of course such an owner is an enthusiast. Try and understand...this is BIMMERPOST. I was limiting my definition to BMW enthusiasts. IMHO, I don't think many people who meet my definition of "BMW enthusiast" would choose a 4 banger over a six if money was no object.

engine size has nothing to do with being an enthusiast...neither does HP or owning more than 1 BMW or sports coupe or spending money to mod up your ride...none of that fits into the definition of being an enthusiast

the very definition of "enthusiast" is simply one with special interest and/or knowledge in a subject or activity...i have a friend that i would consider a hard core MMA (mixed martial arts) enthusiast...he has almost encyclopedic knowledge of every fight and fighter there is yet he does not train in MMA, he does not buy UFC events but rather he streams PPVs for free because he doesn't have the means to purchase them

Originally Posted by begge

Well, for a non-enthusiast, you sure have a lot to say, except how YOU define "enthusiast" . As I was just saying in another reply, this is BIMMERPOST , my friend...not ENTHUSIASTPOST. When I declared the 428i to not be enthusiast material, I meant to true BMW enthusiasts, which you say you are not one of (as I read you). Do you know what an M3 is? Chances are very few M3 owners could get excited about a 428i. On the other hand, a Mazda 6 owner could. *end of story*

well now you're just being condescending to people on this on forum in which you decided to troll on...much the same could be said about 3/4 owners all the way up to the new i8 about not seeing the 1 series as "enthusiast" material being, well, the "baby" BMW or cheapest, most entry level of the group...see what i did there? but those aren't my feelings because i actually do like the 1 series...i think they look a bit goofy and disproportionate but it does fit with my view of them as being a "baby" BMW

Originally Posted by begge

Are you the same guy as OC40? If not, read my replies to him/her on the subject of "enthusiast".

nope, never met him before...but him and i do share a liking for McDonald's