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Since the 3/4 series are supposed to match with the 5/6 series, at 62% a 4GC will be something like US$62,600 but i doubt BMW will charge that amount for a 4. Thats why i guessed around US$59,070. Keep in mind that "Grand coupe" isnt meant to be driven by anyone, its supposed to be expensive. I think BMW is overpricing the GC. I can get a well equipped CLS for less than US$85,000 but a decent equipped 640GC is over US$90,000
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Sure, it should come to the US. It's no more a competitor to the 3er sedan, than the 6 Gran Coupe is a competitor to the 5 series sedan. Most 5ers are "volume" modules, whereas the 6 Gran Coupe gives much more style and features. I'm sure the 4 GC will be positioned the same way.
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BMW has been aggressive with raising their prices. At the same time their designs become more and more average. I don't get it. What happened to the bad ass cars they were making until recently?
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A 4 GC coupe might indeed compete in price with a loaded 535i. But so does a 6GC compete with a loaded 740i. The design is what will set each respective series apart. |
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That's the reason that a 528i interior is much nicer than the $5000-less 335i. The same 528i interior must be as nice at $50000 as at $100000 (M5). The F30 interior is not a $70,000 interior. It is not even a $50,000 interior. That's the problem. |
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Also to all those who are not liking BMWs niche models, it makes economical sense. It's call economies of scale. Build a bunch of cars of one platform and your profit grows as development costs would cover multiple different models. That's a smart way for BMW to stay independent. BMW is the only luxury car market in the world without a parent company to back them. Audi and Porsche have VW, Lexus has Toyota, MB has Daimler, Jaguar/Land Rover has Tata, etc. It's call doing what you have to do to say ahead of the game.
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And all we see here is a 4 GC prototype. The real interior could have better appointments. |
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I hope you're right about the interior. My point is that if BMW is going through the trouble of renaming the car 4 series to charge more and move it up market then I expect a better interior.
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The current 6GC has about the nicest interior in any mainstream BMW (not including the 100k 7's) especially when you option the contrasting leather. I would assume the 4GC would similarly include very upscale interior appointments and probably a lot of BMW Individual options as well. If the 4GC was a scaled down version of the 6GC, I personally would pay 60k for that over a nice 535i, an A6, or an E350.
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BMW used to create quality interiors, this looks to be full of ill-fitting and cheap plastic. The way the centre console meets the dashboard looks like a 1980's Nissan. And yes I know its a prototype, but I just hope they can create something decent. The interior of the 5 series GT is what they should be aiming for in terms of quality.
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Base price on a 335 is $42,800, $36,500 on a 328. I just don't think BMW can get away charging $60,000 base for a 4 series GC. I'd guess more like a $5000 to $7500 premium over the F30. Which means the spread will be smaller and the chance to cannibalize F30 sales will be more real. No question that this is an obvious risk for BMW; I have no doubt they have considered it carefully. I just have no idea what their conclusions might have been.
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