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      08-07-2020, 11:25 PM   #1
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N20/N26 oil alternatives to 0w-20...

Hello guys,

As most of us know. BMW is now recommending a LL-14 0w-20 weight oil for their 4 cylinder engine cars. I understand this is mostly done to improve fuel economy. But still I feel it is a really lightweight oil. Especially for cars in warm climates and in the summer.

Would it be a bad idea to experiment running a 0w-30 or 5w-30 alternative during the summer months?

I use to always run a LL-01 Castrol 5w-30 Euro blend in all my previous BMWs and I would love use this in my N20. However, I worry it is too much of a viscosity difference from the recommended 0w-20 currently in my car.

Any of you guys have any experience moving up from BMWs 0w-20 oils?
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I'm in California, I run 0w30 Pennzoil plat ultra euro. Anything euro on special at walmart
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Im on my second N20 powered F30 and Ive been running 0w40 in both, every 5k miles... with great success.

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Im on my second N20 powered F30 and Ive been running 0w40 in both, every 5k miles... with great success.

Castrol or Mobil 1

2014 328i w/ N26
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Nothing beat $22.38 for a jug.
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I use to always run a LL-01 Castrol 5w-30 Euro blend in all my previous BMWs and I would love use this in my N20. However, I worry it is too much of a viscosity difference from the recommended 0w-20 currently in my car.
It's only one step from 0w-20 to 5w-30, which is insignificant. There's no reason why you can't continue using it. The N20/26 didn't change. The recommendation for 0w-20 as you noted was done purely to realize higher gas mileage without any changes to the engines. They did it after there was enough real world experience with the N20/N26 to suggest that it wouldn't affect the long term reliability of the engines, the timing chain problem notwithstanding, as that doesn't seem to be oil related. As for 0w versus 5w, I run 5w all year long, even in below zero temperatures. If I lived in Socal I'd probably use a 10w.
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Other day, I was tempted to purchase Kirkland Signature 0W-20 Full Synthetic Motor Oil 5-quart, 2-pack jug for $24.29

You guys think good deal? Costco also sell 5W-30 for the same price. Saw on the box it is manufactured by Warren Distribution Inc.
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I tried a couple different oils from Mobil 1 to Liqumoly and others. My n20 seemed happiest with Castrol 0w40 euro blend but blackstone reports for all oils at 5k intervals looked good. I burned the most oil with Liquimoly .5L over 5k miles and more like .2L or so with others. Still within spec but just something to note is all.
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This is from Warren as well, probably very similar:
http://pqiadata.org/AmazonBasics_0W20.html
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The key is the oil change interval.... some might say 5000-7000 miles and some will say 10k miles. Choose your poison

I use to drive 80% highway miles on my commute... I guess you can push 10k on this but I'm still doing 7k.... sspade do 5k interval. You can feel for on your driving routine.

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It's interesting how BMW was running a 30 weight oil in the N20 all the way up until 2016. Then switching to a 20 weight without any change to the engine...

I know the BMW engineers really know what they are doing but a 20 weight oil just seems much too thin. I think a 40 weight will be too much.

I just try my best to not stray away from BMWs recommendations. I think a 5w-30 LL01 Castrol Edge might be the right choice for an all around oil. Close enough too spec but won't cause any harm to the engine.
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It's interesting how BMW was running a 30 weight oil in the N20 all the way up until 2016. Then switching to a 20 weight without any change to the engine...

I know the BMW engineers really know what they are doing but a 20 weight oil just seems much too thin. I think a 40 weight will be too much.

I just try my best to not stray away from BMWs recommendations. I think a 5w-30 LL01 Castrol Edge might be the right choice for an all around oil. Close enough too spec but won't cause any harm to the engine.
Sounds like you are unaware that BMW recommends 40w oil for the N20.

That's why there's so many of us using it :
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It's interesting how BMW was running a 30 weight oil in the N20 all the way up until 2016. Then switching to a 20 weight without any change to the engine...

I know the BMW engineers really know what they are doing but a 20 weight oil just seems much too thin. I think a 40 weight will be too much.

I just try my best to not stray away from BMWs recommendations. I think a 5w-30 LL01 Castrol Edge might be the right choice for an all around oil. Close enough too spec but won't cause any harm to the engine.
I got 2016 F36, mine come with 0w20 from the factory.
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I run Liquimoly 0W-40, changed every 5k miles. You won't have any problems running 5W-30, 0W-30 or 0W-40.
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I have a 2017 N20 F25 X3 sDrive28i, but all the engines are the same. In the photo, blue is recommended (0W20), but there are other options. I choose anything that meets LL01. I just removed the dealer 0W20 fill from our CPO and put in LiquiMoly 5W30 Special Tec.

I use Castrol Edge 0W40 (or 5W40) in my E39, but they lost the LL01 certs somewhat recenetly. I'm sure it's fine, but for our X3, I would rather stick with something that holds LL01.
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I choose anything that meets LL01.
LL isn't an oil industry designation, it's a BMW trademarked designation. Any high grade oil will meet or exceed LL.
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LL isn't an oil industry designation, it's a BMW trademarked designation. Any high grade oil will meet or exceed LL.
And there's a good list of oil to choose from that BMW approves, so not sure why you would want to use anything else, especially if under warranty.

https://www.newtis.info/tisv2/a/en/f...ply/1VnYpiUbyG

Named approved oils
Trade name Viscosity Producer
Addinol Eco light SAE 5W-40 Addinol Lube Oil GmbH
Addinol Super Light 0540 SAE 5W-40 Addinol Lube Oil GmbH
ADDINOL Super power MV 0537 SAE 5W-30 Addinol Lube Oil GmbH
AKTUAL FULLY SYNTH SAE 5W-40 Petronas Lubricants International
AREXONS 3x B4 SAE 5W-40 Petronas Lubricants International
AVENO FS Excellence SAE 0W-40 Deutsche Ölwerke Lubmin GmbH
AVENO FS Select SAE 5W-30 Deutsche Ölwerke Lubmin GmbH
Aral HighTronic M SAE 5W-40 Aral
Aral HighTronic M SAE 5W-40 Aral AG
Aral SuperSynth SAE 0W-40 Aral
Aral SuperSynth SAE 0W-40 Aral AG
Aral SuperTronic G SAE 0W-40 Aral AG
BNO Diamond 5W-40 SN SAE 5W-40 Lub-rref (Bangladesh) Ltd.
BOOSTER 600 PLUS SAE 5W-40 Additive Products (M) SDN BHD
BP Super V Plus SAE 5W-40 BP Oil International
BP Super V Plus SAE 5W-40 BP Plc
BP Visco 5000 SAE 5W-40 BP Oil International
BP Visco 5000 SAE 5W-40 Castrol Limited
BP Visco 5000 SAE 5W-30 BP plc
BP Visco 5000 SAE 5W-30 BP Plc
BP Visco 5000 SAE 5W-40 BP Plc
Biloxxi SAE 5W-30 MCC Trading Deutschland GmbH
CEPSA GENUINE 5W40 SYNTHETIC SAE 5W-40 CEPSA Comercial Petroleo S.A.U
Castrol Edge 0W-30 A3/B4 SAE 0W-30 Castrol Limited
Castrol Edge Professional A3 SAE 0W-30 Castrol Limited
Castrol Edge Professional LL01 SAE 0W-30 Castrol Limited
Castrol Edge Professional LL01 SAE 5W-40 Castrol Limited
Castrol EDGE Supercar 0W-40 A3/B4 SAE 0W-40 Castrol Limited
Castrol Edge 0W-30 A3/B4 SAE 0W-30 Castrol Limited
Castrol Edge 0W-40 A3/B4 SAE 0W-40 Castrol Limited
Castrol Edge 5W-30 A3/B4 SAE 5W-30 Castrol Limited
Castrol Edge 5W-40 A3/B4 SAE 5W-40 Castrol Limited
Castrol Edge 5W-40 SN SAE 5W-40 Castrol Limited
Castrol Edge Professional A3 SAE 0W-40 Castrol Limited
Castrol Edge Professional A3 SAE 5W-40 Castrol Limited
Castrol Edge Professional A3 SAE 0W-30 Castrol Limited
Castrol Edge Professional A3 SAE 5W-30 Castrol Limited
Castrol Edge Professional LL01 SAE 5W-30 Castrol Limited
Castrol Edge Professional LL01 SAE 0W-30 Castrol Limited
Castrol Edge Professional LL01 SAE 0W-40 Castrol Limited
Castrol Edge Professional LL01 SAE 5W-40 Castrol Limited
Castrol Edge Professional OE SAE 5W-40 Castrol Limited
Castrol Edge SAE 5W-40 US version SAE 5W-40 Castrol Limited
Castrol GTX 5W-40 A3/B4 SAE 5W-40 Castrol Limited
Castrol GTX High Mileage SAE 5W-40 Castrol Limited
Castrol GTX Professional A3 SAE 5W-30 Castrol Limited
Castrol Magnatec 5W-30 A3/B4 SAE 5W-30 Castrol Limited
Castrol Magnatec 5W-40 A3/B4 SAE 5W-40 Castrol Limited
Castrol Magnatec Professional A3 SAE 5W-30 Castrol Limited
Castrol Magnatec Professional A3 SAE 5W-40 Castrol Limited
Castrol Magnatec stop-start 5W-30 A3/B4 SAE 5W-30 Castrol Limited
Charger Xtreem SAE 5W-40 Bahrain Petroleum Company
Divinol Syntholight SAE 0W-40 Zeller + Gmelin
Drive Power 37 + SAE 5W-40 Additive Products (M) SDN BHD
ELF Evolution 900 SAE 5W-40 TOTAL Lubrifiants
ELF Evolution 900 FT SAE 5W-40 TOTAL Lubrifiants
ELF Evolution 900 FT SAE 0W-40 TOTAL Lubrifiants
ELF Evolution 900 Turbo SAE 5W-40 TOTAL Lubrifiants
ENERGY RELEASE 5W-40 RS (ER 5W-40 RS) SAE 5W-40 DKR PETROLEUM CO., LTD.
Eni i-Sint SAE 5W-40 Eni S.p.A.
Eurol Synergy SAE 0W-40 Eurol BV
FASTRON GOLD SAE 5W-40 Pt. Pertamina LUBRICANTS
FK European version SAE 5W-40 Ban Hon International Co., Ltd.
FK European version SAE 0W-40 Ban Hon International Co., Ltd.
FUCHS TITAN Supersyn LONGLIFE SAE 5W-40 FUCHS PETROLUB SE
FUCHS TITAN Supersyn LONGLIFE SAE 0W-40 FUCHS PETROLUB SE
Feu Vert SAE 5W-40 Motul
G-Energy F Synth SAE 5W-30 Gazpromneft-lubricants Ltd
G-Energy Service Line MS SAE 5W-30 Gazpromneft-lubricants Ltd
GALP FORMULA ENERGY 5W40 SAE 5W-40 PETROGAL S.A.
GD 7.1 SAE 5W-40 Additive Products (M) SDN BHD
GT-1® Euro Motor Oil SAE 5W-30 Kendall Motor Oil
GT-1® Euro Motor Oil SAE 5W-40 Kendall Motor Oil
Gulf Formula GX SAE 5W-40 Gulf Oil International
Gulf Formula GX SAE 5W-30 Gulf Oil International
Gulf Formula GX SAE 0W-40 Gulf Oil International
Gulf Formula S SAE 5W-40 TOTAL Lubrifiants
HPR 5 SAE 5W-40 Penrite Oil Company Pty Ltd.
Havoline Fully Synthetic E SAE 0W-40 Chevron Lubricants
Havoline Pro DS Fully Synthetic SAE 0W-40 NV CHEVRON BELGIUM
Havoline Pro DSFull Synthetic Motor Oil SAE 5W-40 NV CHEVRON BELGIUM
Havoline ProDS Fully Synthetic SAE 5W-40 Chevron Global Lubricants
Havoline Synthetic SAE 5W-40 Chevron Lubricants
Havoline Synthetic Engine Oil SAE 5W-40 Chevron Global Lubricants
Havoline Ultra SAE 5W-40 Chevron Lubricants
INA Ultra Sint SAE 5W-30 INA Maziva Ltd.
LUBREX VELOCITY NANO PLUS SAE 5W-40 LUBREX FZC
LUKOIL GENESIS ARMORTECH SAE 5W-40 OOO LLK-International
LUKOIL GENESIS POLARTECH SAE 0W-40 OOO LLK-International
LUKOIL GENESIS SPECIAL SAE 0W-40 OOO LLK-International
LUKOIL GENESIS SPECIAL POLAR SAE 0W-40 OOO LLK-International
Leichtlauf High Tech LL SAE 5W-30 LIQUI MOLY GmbH
Liqui Moly Leichtlauf High Tech SAE 5W-40 Liqui Moly GmbH
Liqui Moly Pro-Engine M900 SAE 5W-40 Liqui Moly GmbH
Liqui Moly Special Tec LL SAE 5W-30 Liqui Moly
Lotos Syntetic Plus SAE 5W-40 Lotos Oil
Mol Dynamic Synt SAE 5W-30 MOL-LUB Lubricant Ltd.
MOTOREX XPERIENCE FS-X SAE 0W-40 BUCHER AG LANGENTHAL
MOTUL 6100 SYN-NERGY SAE 5W-30 MOTUL
MOTUL 8100 X-MAX SAE 0W-40 Motul S.A.
Meisteröl LL SAE 5W-30 Epro GmbH
Midland synqron SAE 5W-40 Oel-Brack AG
Miocar MX Syntra SAE 5W-40 Migros Genossenschafts Bund
Mobil 1 Formula SAE 0W-40 ExxonMobil
Mobil Formula X2 SAE 5W-40 ExxonMobil
Mobil Super 3000 Formula B SAE 5W-40 ExxonMobil
Mobil Super 3000 X1 SAE 5W-40 ExxonMobil
Mobil Super 3000 X1 SAE 5W-40 Exxon Mobil
Mobil Super 3000 X2 SAE 5W-40 ExxonMobil
Mobil Super Synthetic Euro SAE 5W-40 ExxonMobil
Mobil Super Synthetic Formula B SAE 5W-40 ExxonMobil
Motul 6100 ECO FLEX SAE 5W-30 Motul S.A.
Motul 6100 Flexmax SAE 5W-30 Motul S.A.
Motul 6100 Flexmax SAE 5W-30 Motul SA
Motul 8100 X-CESS SAE 5W-30 MOTUL
Motul 8100 X-CESS SAE 5W-40 MOTUL
Motul 8100 X-cess SAE 5W-40 Motul S.A.
Motul Expert M SAE 5W-40 Motul S.A.
Motul Specific LL-01 SAE 5W-30 Motul SA
Motul Synergie SAE 5W-40 Motul S.A.
OLEOBLITZ PULSAR C.R. SAE 5W-40 Petronas Lubricants International
Omera Lube 1 SAE 5W-40 MJL Bangladesh Ltd.
PENTOSPEED SUPER PERFORMANCE SAE 5W-40 FUCHS SCHMIERSTOFFE GMBH
PETRONAS SYNTIUM 3000 SAE 5W-40 Petronas Lubricants International
Pennzoil Platinum Euro SAE 5W-30 Shell International Petroleum Company
Pennzoil Platinum Euro SAE 5W-40 Shell International Petroleum Company
Pennzoil Platinum Euro SAE 5W-30 Shell International Petroleum Co.Ltd.
Pennzoil Platinum Euro SAE 5W-40 Shell International Petroleum Co.Ltd.
Pennzoil Ultra Euro SAE 5W-40 Shell International Petroleum Company
Pennzoil Ultra Euro 5W-40 Full Synthetic Motor Oil SAE 5W-40 Shell International Petroleum Company
Petronas Syntium 7000 SAE 0W-40 Petronas
Professional Series Full Synthetic Motor Oil SAE 5W-40 Red Line Synthetic Oil
QS Ultimate Durability European SAE 5W-40 Shell International Petroleum Company
QS Ultimate Durability European SAE 5W-30 Shell International Petroleum Company
Quaker State Ultimate Durability European SAE 5W-40 Shell International Petroleum Co.Ltd.
Ravenol HCL SAE 5W-30 Ravensberger Schmierstoffvertrieb GmbH
RAVENOL HST SAE 5W-40 Ravensberger Schmierstoffvertrieb GmbH
RAVENOL RSP SAE 5W-30 Ravensberger Schmierstoffvertrieb GmbH
RAVENOL Super Synthetik Öl SSL SAE 0W-40 Ravensberger Schmierstoffvertrieb GmbH
RAVENOL VollSynth Turbo VST SAE 5W-40 Ravensberger Schmierstoffvertrieb GmbH
REPSOL ELITE COMMON RAIL SAE 5W-30 REPSOL LUBRICANTES Y ESPECIALIDADES S.A
REPSOL ELITE COMPETICION SAE 5W-40 REPSOL LUBRICANTES y ESPECIALIDADES S.A
REPSOL ELITE COSMOS HIGH PERFORMANCE SAE 0W-40 REPSOL LUBRICANTES Y ESPECIALIDADES S.A
REV-1 TITANIUM SAE 0W-40 Spare-Parts Zone Pte Ltd
ROWE HIGHTEC SYNT RS HC-D SAE 5W-40 ROWE MINERALÖLWERK GMBH
Repsol Elite Common Rail SAE 5W-30 Repsol YPF
Repsol Elite Competicion SAE 5W-40 Repsol YPF
SINOPEC JUSTAR J700F Premium SAE 5W-30 SINOPEC LUBRICANT CO.,LTD.
SPC SYN ACE SUPREME API SN SAE 5W-40 Singapore Petroleum Company Ltd.
SRS ViVA 1 ecosynth plus SAE 0W-40 SRS Schmierstoff Vertrieb GmbH
SRS ViVA 1 Longlife SAE 5W-30 SRS Schmierstoff Vertrieb GmbH
SRS ViVA 1 topsynth SAE 5W-40 SRS Schmierstoff Vertrieb GmbH
SRS ViVA 1 topsynth plus SAE 5W-40 SRS Schmierstoff Vertrieb GmbH
SRS Viva 1 Longlife SAE 5W-30 SRS Schmierstoff Vertrieb GmbH
STAR GOLD SAE 5W-40 Orlen Oil Sp. z o.o.
STAR SYNT S SAE 5W-40 Orlen OilSp z o.o.
Shell Helix HX6 SAE 5W-40 Shell International Petroleum Company
Shell Helix Ultra SAE 5W-30 Shell International Petroleum Company
Shell Helix Ultra SAE 5W-40 Shell International Petroleum Company
Shell Helix Ultra SAE 5W-30 Shell International Petroleum Co.Ltd.
Shell Helix Ultra SAE 5W-40 Shell International Petroleum Co.Ltd.
Shell Helix Ultra Professional ABB SAE 5W-40 Shell International Petroleum Company
Shell Helix Ultra Professional ABB SAE 5W-30 Shell International Petroleum Co.Ltd.
Shell Helix Ultra Professional ABB SAE 5W-40 Shell International Petroleum Co.Ltd.
Shell Helix Ultra Professional AM SAE 5W-40 Shell International Petroleum Company
Shell Helix Ultra X SAE 5W-30 Shell International Petroleum Co.Ltd.
Shell Helix Ultra l SAE 5W-30 Shell International Petroleum Company
Shell Helix Ultra l SAE 5W-40 Shell International Petroleum Company
Shell Helix Ultra l SAE 5W-30 Shell International Petroleum Co.Ltd.
Shell Helix Ultra l SAE 5W-40 Shell International Petroleum Co.Ltd.
Shield® Euro-Tech Motor Oil SAE 5W-40 Phillips 66 Company
Shield® Euro-Tech Motor Oil SAE 5W-30 Phillips 66 Company
Swd Rheinol Primus CVS SAE 5W-30 Swd Lubricants GmbH & Co.KG
Swd Rheinol Primus VS SAE 0W-40 Swd Lubricants GmbH & Co.KG
SynPower engine oil SAE 5W-30 Valvoline EMEA
SynPower engine oil SAE 5W-40 Valvoline
Synthetic PC SAE 5W-30 eni S.p.A.
TNK Magnum Ultratec SAE 5W-40 TNK Lubricants, LLC
TOTAL Quartz 9000 SAE 5W-40 TOTAL Lubrifiants
Total Quartz 9000 Energy SAE 0W-40 TOTAL Lubrifiants
Titan Supersyn Longlife SAE 5W-40 Fuchs Petrolub AG
TongYi SN SAE 5W-40 TongYi Petroleum Chemical Co., Ltd.
Total Activa 9000 SAE 5W-40 Total
Total Activa 9000 Essence SAE 5W-40 Total
Total quartz 9000 SAE 5W-40 Total
Total Quartz 9000 Energy SAE 5W-40 Total
Triathlon Formula LL SAE 5W-30 Adolf Würth GmbH & Co. KG
Triathlon Premium SAE 5W-40 Würth International Trading ( Shanghai) Co,. Ltd.
VR 7.1 SAE 5W-40 Additive Products (M) SDN BHD
Valvoline Advanced SAE 0W-40 Valvoline
Valvoline SynPower SAE 5W-30 Valvoline
Valvoline SynPower HST SAE 5W-30 Valvoline
Valvoline SynPower HST SAE 5W-40 Valvoline
Valvoline SynPower motor oil SAE 0W-40 Valvoline EMEA
WOLF VITALTECH SAE 5W-40 Wolf Oil Corporation NV.
Weco TXI Syntholube SAE 5W-40 Weco
Westfalen Gigatron SAE 0W-40 Westfalen AG
Westfalen Megatron SAE 5W-40 Westfalen AG
Yacco VX 1000 SAE 5W-40 Yacco S.A.S.
Yacco VX 1000 LL SAE 5W-40 Yacco S.A.S.
eni i-Sint SAE 0W-40 eni Schmiertechnik GmbH
eni i-Sint PC 4AM SAE 5W-40 eni Schmiertechnik GmbH
eni i-Sint PC 4AM SAE 5W-30 eni Schmiertechnik GmbH
maxxpower 5W30 Synergie SAE 5W-30 Swd Lubricants GmbH & Co.KG
Megol Motorenoel High Condition SAE 5W-40 Meguin GmbH & Co. KG
Megol Motorenoel Quality SAE 5W-30 Meguin GmbH & Co. KG
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Thanks for all the info guys.

I'm going to swap out the factory 0w-20 to my preferred Castrol Edge 5w-30 A3/B4. It worked fine in my other cars. It meets LL-01 which is enough in my opinion.

The hard part is just finding it in stores. Why is Castrol doing gold bottles now?

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i get from some tuners, that they recommend to use 40 weight oil if you tune your car, for extra protection due to extra pressure from tuning the car.
But i still use 0w-30 on my tuned car, and no problem so far
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      08-12-2020, 11:15 AM   #19
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So I used the Castrol Syntec 0W-40 in my 228 N20 with a stage 1 tune for 98K with 8k changes and OEM filters. I put the same tune on my F31 328 N20 for the last 45K miles with the same schedule. I've also used Mobile1 0W-40 here and there.
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And there's a good list of oil to choose from that BMW approves, so not sure why you would want to use anything else, especially if under warranty.

https://www.newtis.info/tisv2/a/en/f...ply/1VnYpiUbyG

Named approved oils
Trade name Viscosity Producer
Addinol Eco light SAE 5W-40 Addinol Lube Oil GmbH
Addinol Super Light 0540 SAE 5W-40 Addinol Lube Oil GmbH
ADDINOL Super power MV 0537 SAE 5W-30 Addinol Lube Oil GmbH
AKTUAL FULLY SYNTH SAE 5W-40 Petronas Lubricants International
AREXONS 3x B4 SAE 5W-40 Petronas Lubricants International
AVENO FS Excellence SAE 0W-40 Deutsche Ölwerke Lubmin GmbH
AVENO FS Select SAE 5W-30 Deutsche Ölwerke Lubmin GmbH
Aral HighTronic M SAE 5W-40 Aral
Aral HighTronic M SAE 5W-40 Aral AG
Aral SuperSynth SAE 0W-40 Aral
Aral SuperSynth SAE 0W-40 Aral AG
Aral SuperTronic G SAE 0W-40 Aral AG
BNO Diamond 5W-40 SN SAE 5W-40 Lub-rref (Bangladesh) Ltd.
BOOSTER 600 PLUS SAE 5W-40 Additive Products (M) SDN BHD
BP Super V Plus SAE 5W-40 BP Oil International
BP Super V Plus SAE 5W-40 BP Plc
BP Visco 5000 SAE 5W-40 BP Oil International
BP Visco 5000 SAE 5W-40 Castrol Limited
BP Visco 5000 SAE 5W-30 BP plc
BP Visco 5000 SAE 5W-30 BP Plc
BP Visco 5000 SAE 5W-40 BP Plc
Biloxxi SAE 5W-30 MCC Trading Deutschland GmbH
CEPSA GENUINE 5W40 SYNTHETIC SAE 5W-40 CEPSA Comercial Petroleo S.A.U
Castrol Edge 0W-30 A3/B4 SAE 0W-30 Castrol Limited
Castrol Edge Professional A3 SAE 0W-30 Castrol Limited
Castrol Edge Professional LL01 SAE 0W-30 Castrol Limited
Castrol Edge Professional LL01 SAE 5W-40 Castrol Limited
Castrol EDGE Supercar 0W-40 A3/B4 SAE 0W-40 Castrol Limited
Castrol Edge 0W-30 A3/B4 SAE 0W-30 Castrol Limited
Castrol Edge 0W-40 A3/B4 SAE 0W-40 Castrol Limited
Castrol Edge 5W-30 A3/B4 SAE 5W-30 Castrol Limited
Castrol Edge 5W-40 A3/B4 SAE 5W-40 Castrol Limited
Castrol Edge 5W-40 SN SAE 5W-40 Castrol Limited
Castrol Edge Professional A3 SAE 0W-40 Castrol Limited
Castrol Edge Professional A3 SAE 5W-40 Castrol Limited
Castrol Edge Professional A3 SAE 0W-30 Castrol Limited
Castrol Edge Professional A3 SAE 5W-30 Castrol Limited
Castrol Edge Professional LL01 SAE 5W-30 Castrol Limited
Castrol Edge Professional LL01 SAE 0W-30 Castrol Limited
Castrol Edge Professional LL01 SAE 0W-40 Castrol Limited
Castrol Edge Professional LL01 SAE 5W-40 Castrol Limited
Castrol Edge Professional OE SAE 5W-40 Castrol Limited
Castrol Edge SAE 5W-40 US version SAE 5W-40 Castrol Limited
Castrol GTX 5W-40 A3/B4 SAE 5W-40 Castrol Limited
Castrol GTX High Mileage SAE 5W-40 Castrol Limited
Castrol GTX Professional A3 SAE 5W-30 Castrol Limited
Castrol Magnatec 5W-30 A3/B4 SAE 5W-30 Castrol Limited
Castrol Magnatec 5W-40 A3/B4 SAE 5W-40 Castrol Limited
Castrol Magnatec Professional A3 SAE 5W-30 Castrol Limited
Castrol Magnatec Professional A3 SAE 5W-40 Castrol Limited
Castrol Magnatec stop-start 5W-30 A3/B4 SAE 5W-30 Castrol Limited
Charger Xtreem SAE 5W-40 Bahrain Petroleum Company
Divinol Syntholight SAE 0W-40 Zeller + Gmelin
Drive Power 37 + SAE 5W-40 Additive Products (M) SDN BHD
ELF Evolution 900 SAE 5W-40 TOTAL Lubrifiants
ELF Evolution 900 FT SAE 5W-40 TOTAL Lubrifiants
ELF Evolution 900 FT SAE 0W-40 TOTAL Lubrifiants
ELF Evolution 900 Turbo SAE 5W-40 TOTAL Lubrifiants
ENERGY RELEASE 5W-40 RS (ER 5W-40 RS) SAE 5W-40 DKR PETROLEUM CO., LTD.
Eni i-Sint SAE 5W-40 Eni S.p.A.
Eurol Synergy SAE 0W-40 Eurol BV
FASTRON GOLD SAE 5W-40 Pt. Pertamina LUBRICANTS
FK European version SAE 5W-40 Ban Hon International Co., Ltd.
FK European version SAE 0W-40 Ban Hon International Co., Ltd.
FUCHS TITAN Supersyn LONGLIFE SAE 5W-40 FUCHS PETROLUB SE
FUCHS TITAN Supersyn LONGLIFE SAE 0W-40 FUCHS PETROLUB SE
Feu Vert SAE 5W-40 Motul
G-Energy F Synth SAE 5W-30 Gazpromneft-lubricants Ltd
G-Energy Service Line MS SAE 5W-30 Gazpromneft-lubricants Ltd
GALP FORMULA ENERGY 5W40 SAE 5W-40 PETROGAL S.A.
GD 7.1 SAE 5W-40 Additive Products (M) SDN BHD
GT-1® Euro Motor Oil SAE 5W-30 Kendall Motor Oil
GT-1® Euro Motor Oil SAE 5W-40 Kendall Motor Oil
Gulf Formula GX SAE 5W-40 Gulf Oil International
Gulf Formula GX SAE 5W-30 Gulf Oil International
Gulf Formula GX SAE 0W-40 Gulf Oil International
Gulf Formula S SAE 5W-40 TOTAL Lubrifiants
HPR 5 SAE 5W-40 Penrite Oil Company Pty Ltd.
Havoline Fully Synthetic E SAE 0W-40 Chevron Lubricants
Havoline Pro DS Fully Synthetic SAE 0W-40 NV CHEVRON BELGIUM
Havoline Pro DSFull Synthetic Motor Oil SAE 5W-40 NV CHEVRON BELGIUM
Havoline ProDS Fully Synthetic SAE 5W-40 Chevron Global Lubricants
Havoline Synthetic SAE 5W-40 Chevron Lubricants
Havoline Synthetic Engine Oil SAE 5W-40 Chevron Global Lubricants
Havoline Ultra SAE 5W-40 Chevron Lubricants
INA Ultra Sint SAE 5W-30 INA Maziva Ltd.
LUBREX VELOCITY NANO PLUS SAE 5W-40 LUBREX FZC
LUKOIL GENESIS ARMORTECH SAE 5W-40 OOO LLK-International
LUKOIL GENESIS POLARTECH SAE 0W-40 OOO LLK-International
LUKOIL GENESIS SPECIAL SAE 0W-40 OOO LLK-International
LUKOIL GENESIS SPECIAL POLAR SAE 0W-40 OOO LLK-International
Leichtlauf High Tech LL SAE 5W-30 LIQUI MOLY GmbH
Liqui Moly Leichtlauf High Tech SAE 5W-40 Liqui Moly GmbH
Liqui Moly Pro-Engine M900 SAE 5W-40 Liqui Moly GmbH
Liqui Moly Special Tec LL SAE 5W-30 Liqui Moly
Lotos Syntetic Plus SAE 5W-40 Lotos Oil
Mol Dynamic Synt SAE 5W-30 MOL-LUB Lubricant Ltd.
MOTOREX XPERIENCE FS-X SAE 0W-40 BUCHER AG LANGENTHAL
MOTUL 6100 SYN-NERGY SAE 5W-30 MOTUL
MOTUL 8100 X-MAX SAE 0W-40 Motul S.A.
Meisteröl LL SAE 5W-30 Epro GmbH
Midland synqron SAE 5W-40 Oel-Brack AG
Miocar MX Syntra SAE 5W-40 Migros Genossenschafts Bund
Mobil 1 Formula SAE 0W-40 ExxonMobil
Mobil Formula X2 SAE 5W-40 ExxonMobil
Mobil Super 3000 Formula B SAE 5W-40 ExxonMobil
Mobil Super 3000 X1 SAE 5W-40 ExxonMobil
Mobil Super 3000 X1 SAE 5W-40 Exxon Mobil
Mobil Super 3000 X2 SAE 5W-40 ExxonMobil
Mobil Super Synthetic Euro SAE 5W-40 ExxonMobil
Mobil Super Synthetic Formula B SAE 5W-40 ExxonMobil
Motul 6100 ECO FLEX SAE 5W-30 Motul S.A.
Motul 6100 Flexmax SAE 5W-30 Motul S.A.
Motul 6100 Flexmax SAE 5W-30 Motul SA
Motul 8100 X-CESS SAE 5W-30 MOTUL
Motul 8100 X-CESS SAE 5W-40 MOTUL
Motul 8100 X-cess SAE 5W-40 Motul S.A.
Motul Expert M SAE 5W-40 Motul S.A.
Motul Specific LL-01 SAE 5W-30 Motul SA
Motul Synergie SAE 5W-40 Motul S.A.
OLEOBLITZ PULSAR C.R. SAE 5W-40 Petronas Lubricants International
Omera Lube 1 SAE 5W-40 MJL Bangladesh Ltd.
PENTOSPEED SUPER PERFORMANCE SAE 5W-40 FUCHS SCHMIERSTOFFE GMBH
PETRONAS SYNTIUM 3000 SAE 5W-40 Petronas Lubricants International
Pennzoil Platinum Euro SAE 5W-30 Shell International Petroleum Company
Pennzoil Platinum Euro SAE 5W-40 Shell International Petroleum Company
Pennzoil Platinum Euro SAE 5W-30 Shell International Petroleum Co.Ltd.
Pennzoil Platinum Euro SAE 5W-40 Shell International Petroleum Co.Ltd.
Pennzoil Ultra Euro SAE 5W-40 Shell International Petroleum Company
Pennzoil Ultra Euro 5W-40 Full Synthetic Motor Oil SAE 5W-40 Shell International Petroleum Company
Petronas Syntium 7000 SAE 0W-40 Petronas
Professional Series Full Synthetic Motor Oil SAE 5W-40 Red Line Synthetic Oil
QS Ultimate Durability European SAE 5W-40 Shell International Petroleum Company
QS Ultimate Durability European SAE 5W-30 Shell International Petroleum Company
Quaker State Ultimate Durability European SAE 5W-40 Shell International Petroleum Co.Ltd.
Ravenol HCL SAE 5W-30 Ravensberger Schmierstoffvertrieb GmbH
RAVENOL HST SAE 5W-40 Ravensberger Schmierstoffvertrieb GmbH
RAVENOL RSP SAE 5W-30 Ravensberger Schmierstoffvertrieb GmbH
RAVENOL Super Synthetik Öl SSL SAE 0W-40 Ravensberger Schmierstoffvertrieb GmbH
RAVENOL VollSynth Turbo VST SAE 5W-40 Ravensberger Schmierstoffvertrieb GmbH
REPSOL ELITE COMMON RAIL SAE 5W-30 REPSOL LUBRICANTES Y ESPECIALIDADES S.A
REPSOL ELITE COMPETICION SAE 5W-40 REPSOL LUBRICANTES y ESPECIALIDADES S.A
REPSOL ELITE COSMOS HIGH PERFORMANCE SAE 0W-40 REPSOL LUBRICANTES Y ESPECIALIDADES S.A
REV-1 TITANIUM SAE 0W-40 Spare-Parts Zone Pte Ltd
ROWE HIGHTEC SYNT RS HC-D SAE 5W-40 ROWE MINERALÖLWERK GMBH
Repsol Elite Common Rail SAE 5W-30 Repsol YPF
Repsol Elite Competicion SAE 5W-40 Repsol YPF
SINOPEC JUSTAR J700F Premium SAE 5W-30 SINOPEC LUBRICANT CO.,LTD.
SPC SYN ACE SUPREME API SN SAE 5W-40 Singapore Petroleum Company Ltd.
SRS ViVA 1 ecosynth plus SAE 0W-40 SRS Schmierstoff Vertrieb GmbH
SRS ViVA 1 Longlife SAE 5W-30 SRS Schmierstoff Vertrieb GmbH
SRS ViVA 1 topsynth SAE 5W-40 SRS Schmierstoff Vertrieb GmbH
SRS ViVA 1 topsynth plus SAE 5W-40 SRS Schmierstoff Vertrieb GmbH
SRS Viva 1 Longlife SAE 5W-30 SRS Schmierstoff Vertrieb GmbH
STAR GOLD SAE 5W-40 Orlen Oil Sp. z o.o.
STAR SYNT S SAE 5W-40 Orlen OilSp z o.o.
Shell Helix HX6 SAE 5W-40 Shell International Petroleum Company
Shell Helix Ultra SAE 5W-30 Shell International Petroleum Company
Shell Helix Ultra SAE 5W-40 Shell International Petroleum Company
Shell Helix Ultra SAE 5W-30 Shell International Petroleum Co.Ltd.
Shell Helix Ultra SAE 5W-40 Shell International Petroleum Co.Ltd.
Shell Helix Ultra Professional ABB SAE 5W-40 Shell International Petroleum Company
Shell Helix Ultra Professional ABB SAE 5W-30 Shell International Petroleum Co.Ltd.
Shell Helix Ultra Professional ABB SAE 5W-40 Shell International Petroleum Co.Ltd.
Shell Helix Ultra Professional AM SAE 5W-40 Shell International Petroleum Company
Shell Helix Ultra X SAE 5W-30 Shell International Petroleum Co.Ltd.
Shell Helix Ultra l SAE 5W-30 Shell International Petroleum Company
Shell Helix Ultra l SAE 5W-40 Shell International Petroleum Company
Shell Helix Ultra l SAE 5W-30 Shell International Petroleum Co.Ltd.
Shell Helix Ultra l SAE 5W-40 Shell International Petroleum Co.Ltd.
Shield® Euro-Tech Motor Oil SAE 5W-40 Phillips 66 Company
Shield® Euro-Tech Motor Oil SAE 5W-30 Phillips 66 Company
Swd Rheinol Primus CVS SAE 5W-30 Swd Lubricants GmbH & Co.KG
Swd Rheinol Primus VS SAE 0W-40 Swd Lubricants GmbH & Co.KG
SynPower engine oil SAE 5W-30 Valvoline EMEA
SynPower engine oil SAE 5W-40 Valvoline
Synthetic PC SAE 5W-30 eni S.p.A.
TNK Magnum Ultratec SAE 5W-40 TNK Lubricants, LLC
TOTAL Quartz 9000 SAE 5W-40 TOTAL Lubrifiants
Total Quartz 9000 Energy SAE 0W-40 TOTAL Lubrifiants
Titan Supersyn Longlife SAE 5W-40 Fuchs Petrolub AG
TongYi SN SAE 5W-40 TongYi Petroleum Chemical Co., Ltd.
Total Activa 9000 SAE 5W-40 Total
Total Activa 9000 Essence SAE 5W-40 Total
Total quartz 9000 SAE 5W-40 Total
Total Quartz 9000 Energy SAE 5W-40 Total
Triathlon Formula LL SAE 5W-30 Adolf Würth GmbH & Co. KG
Triathlon Premium SAE 5W-40 Würth International Trading ( Shanghai) Co,. Ltd.
VR 7.1 SAE 5W-40 Additive Products (M) SDN BHD
Valvoline Advanced SAE 0W-40 Valvoline
Valvoline SynPower SAE 5W-30 Valvoline
Valvoline SynPower HST SAE 5W-30 Valvoline
Valvoline SynPower HST SAE 5W-40 Valvoline
Valvoline SynPower motor oil SAE 0W-40 Valvoline EMEA
WOLF VITALTECH SAE 5W-40 Wolf Oil Corporation NV.
Weco TXI Syntholube SAE 5W-40 Weco
Westfalen Gigatron SAE 0W-40 Westfalen AG
Westfalen Megatron SAE 5W-40 Westfalen AG
Yacco VX 1000 SAE 5W-40 Yacco S.A.S.
Yacco VX 1000 LL SAE 5W-40 Yacco S.A.S.
eni i-Sint SAE 0W-40 eni Schmiertechnik GmbH
eni i-Sint PC 4AM SAE 5W-40 eni Schmiertechnik GmbH
eni i-Sint PC 4AM SAE 5W-30 eni Schmiertechnik GmbH
maxxpower 5W30 Synergie SAE 5W-30 Swd Lubricants GmbH & Co.KG
Megol Motorenoel High Condition SAE 5W-40 Meguin GmbH & Co. KG
Megol Motorenoel Quality SAE 5W-30 Meguin GmbH & Co. KG
anything on this list on the form of 0w30 that sold in JUGS and cost some where $15 - 25. I just change oil every 7000 miles and they will be fresh all the time

Anyone can do whatever they want with there car.... You can spend $$$$ on Motul if that's what they like
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Thinking of switching to 5w-40 my next change. It's non-stop 100+ here in socal and the oil has the viscosity of water pretty much when I change it or see it drip off the oil cap running 5w-30
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Thinking of switching to 5w-40 my next change. It's non-stop 100+ here in socal and the oil has the viscosity of water pretty much when I change it or see it drip off the oil cap running 5w-30
You should be fine. Unless you're doing laps on a race track non stop or oil is burning between oil changes, 5w30 is fine. It may look thin to you but that's what the car is designed to run.
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