[Lgb0250]

https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...0-genesis-g70/

[Gen13 F36]

It doesn't matter. People have money will buy the BMW don't matter the $12k difference.

[amancuso]

As a guy said to my dad once while he was working on the cheap Hyundai Scoupe he bought for peanuts to commute in once said, "You know what's wrong with that Hyundai? It's a Hyundai!"

[danperson1]

The G70 is pretty nice but the back seat and trunk are terrible.

[PK2348]

Originally Posted by Gen13 F36

It doesn't matter. People have money will buy the BMW don't matter the $12k difference.

True, most people buy the badge, not the car

[Gen13 F36]

Also I might add... i have a few friends that drive the Kia stinger and g70... the only gripe they always tell me is when they come to the dealer for service. For that much money the experience should be top notch😉

[EDWYER]

The front of the G70 is hideous.

[Michael Schott]

Originally Posted by Gen13 F36

Also I might add... i have a few friends that drive the Kia stinger and g70... the only gripe they always tell me is when they come to the dealer for service. For that much money the experience should be top notch😉

BMW service can be stellar or terrible. Definitely not Lexus like.

[IK6SPEED]

Originally Posted by PK2348

True, most people buy the badge, not the car

BMW owners change their badges....now Genesis owners can too.

[BMWinAZ]

Originally Posted by ProjectBoost

The front of the G70 is hideous.

The same could be said about the front of the new concept 4 series! Those who have kidney grills the size of small countries should not throw figurative rocks ...

[BMWinAZ]

Originally Posted by amancuso

As a guy said to my dad once while he was working on the cheap Hyundai Scoupe he bought for peanuts to commute in once said, "You know what's wrong with that Hyundai? It's a Hyundai!"

The quality and reliability of modern Hyundais is pretty darn good. My Dad drove a 2001 Sonata for 16 years without any major repair or breakdown, just regular maintenance.

[eluded]

3800 lbs for the new bmw? Did it gain that much weight?

Why this comparison. Makes no sense. New 340 runs low 12s and is no match for the Hyundai. 330 would make more sense price and performance wise.

[Desertnate]

Originally Posted by BMWinAZ

The quality and reliability of modern Hyundais is pretty darn good. My Dad drove a 2001 Sonata for 16 years without any major repair or breakdown, just regular maintenance.

I would agree. My mother-in-law owns a Genesis G90 and it is really nice. The materials are high quality and it is put together really well. They've had absolutly no problems with it. This is her third G90 and each time they get better. The first two rode really strangly on their squishy suspensions, but her current '17 rides far better and is a great place to saw through long miles on the road.

My only complaint in the car is the seat bottoms are pretty short and there isn't much thigh support.

Originally Posted by eluded

Why this comparison. Makes no sense. New 340 runs low 12s and is no match for the Hyundai. 330 would make more sense price and performance wise.

Price wise yes, but they tested the G70 with the turbo charged V6 which supposedly pushes out 365hp. That is very similar to the M340 in power regardless of the numbers it puts down.

I can vouch for the M340 being quick. At the M Town Tour I drove a M2 Competition and the M340 back-to-back. The M340 felt every bit as quick as the M2 in situations I could safely try out on public roads. It didn't feel like it weighed 3800 lbs, and I actually thought it felt lighter than my 435 or other 340's I've driven in the past.

[Desertnate]

Originally Posted by Gen13 F36

Also I might add... i have a few friends that drive the Kia stinger and g70... the only gripe they always tell me is when they come to the dealer for service. For that much money the experience should be top notch😉

Very true. Many Hyundia and Kia dealership experiences can be pretty terrible, even if the facilities are in good shape.

This is probably why Genesis will come to your house and swap out your car with a loaner when it needs service. You never have to set foot in the dealership while the free service plan lasts.

Too bad Stinger owners don't have the same option.

[paul e]

Odd how everyone says BMWs are expensive to maintain but no one comments on the Kia powertrain warranty of 10 years 100k, which blows away just about everyone else’s.

[Desertnate]

Since nearly 60% of all BMW's are leased (58% according to a 2016 Edmunds article). I don't see BMW having any incentive to offer a longer warranty. They only need to cover the first owner across the life of the lease.

For the few of us who buy new or nearly new/CPO it would be nice, but longer warranties would cut into profits made off extended service and warranty plans.

[upsidedownfunnel]

Originally Posted by eluded

3800 lbs for the new bmw? Did it gain that much weight?

Why this comparison. Makes no sense. New 340 runs low 12s and is no match for the Hyundai. 330 would make more sense price and performance wise.

While the M340i is certainly faster, they're still in the same general class of car. The G70 3.3t is much closer in performance to an M340i than a 330i.

[Elvisfan]

Originally Posted by Gen13 F36

It doesn't matter. People have money will buy the BMW don't matter the $12k difference.

I talked to my wife about that article. And about the value of the new SUVs. I mentioned Hyundai and she gave me a dirty look.

[thatBimmerBloke]

Just remembered I had a yellow Hyundai Veloster as rental for about two weeks when I moved for work, it was a fun little car, easy to park Nothing against reliability of Hyundai/Genesis, probably more reliable than BMW over long term, way cheaper maintenance too, BUT, if performance is my primary concern then I'd never choose a Hyundai over a BMW or even Audi for that matter.

[Desertnate]

The brand does come with some reputation baggage (most of it unfounded these days) and their dealer network certianly doesn't help. Genesis has an uphill battle to get people to not always associate them with Hyundai.

I don't remember, but Lexus and Infiniti's were never sold in Toyota/Nissan dealerships when they first came out did they? I don't think Acura did either. That probably made things much easier to market and get people to not think Toyota/Nissan/Honda when they heard the name.

[PK2348]

Originally Posted by paul e

Odd how everyone says BMWs are expensive to maintain but no one comments on the Kia powertrain warranty of 10 years 100k, which blows away just about everyone else’s.

yes, but how is the dealership experience when the time comes to honor that warranty?
I am asking because few times i tried to help a friend buy a Kia, went to 2 dealers, got an impression they were in a contest of who can be a bigger scumbag

[Wires]

Buddy at work has the G70 sport. Car is fast, is tight, build quality is outstanding. Even comes with cross stitched seats for a much lower price point.

Looking around and inside the car, they basically hand picked all the good stuff from other brands. Audi cross stitched seats, BMW 5 series rear clip, etc. His car is slick looking, and I'd seriously consider it if I was looking for a new ride.

I haven't driven it, so I cannot comment on how the weight balance and handling is compare to my 340.