Charge pipe guidance

jcalm002 · 09-20-2020, 02:34 PM

Hello folks. I recently got back into the BMW game again and bought my 3rd 335i. Looking for some advice from everyone based on their experience with the various charge pipes out there. Last IC and CP combo I bought was from ETS and it worked well. I’ve scoped out various threads and see VRSF, BMS, ER charge pipes and am leaning towards the ER CP.

I just installed the 5” VRSF IC and also running BMS Stage 1 on my 2015 335i (by the way it’s an AH3 too

). The OEM charge pipe was actually just replaced by BMW a month ago per the previous owner. I think I’ve got time as the CP is new and not worn yet but of course I’m thinking I need to upgrade the CP soon.

So... thoughts?

Keep the OEM one for a little while?
ER vs VRSF vs Others???

Thanks for any advice!

thejeremyman9 · 09-20-2020, 05:04 PM

VRSF is... well its VRSF.

ER is generally regarded as the 'best' (in terms of quality/consistency/fitment, they all perform the same assuming they fit).

FTP is another popular option, and the cheapest, and you can get a kit with TIC as well.

There's endless info out there, just research and make a decision. Xdrive offerings may be limited.

johnung · 09-20-2020, 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by jcalm002

Hello folks. I recently got back into the BMW game again and bought my 3rd 335i. Looking for some advice from everyone based on their experience with the various charge pipes out there. Last IC and CP combo I bought was from ETS and it worked well. I’ve scoped out various threads and see VRSF, BMS, ER charge pipes and am leaning towards the ER CP.

I just installed the 5” VRSF IC and also running BMS Stage 1 on my 2015 335i (by the way it’s an AH3 too

). The OEM charge pipe was actually just replaced by BMW a month ago per the previous owner. I think I’ve got time as the CP is new and not worn yet but of course I’m thinking I need to upgrade the CP soon.

So... thoughts?

Keep the OEM one for a little while?
ER vs VRSF vs Others???

Thanks for any advice!

No one makes a better quality, better fitting chargepipe than Evolution Racewerks. Made in USA. Other cheaper overseas CPs are hit or miss with their spotty quality control. That's why you read one guy say good things and another guy say it sucks

jcalm002 · 09-20-2020, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by johnung

No one makes a better quality, better fitting chargepipe than Evolution Racewerks. Made in USA. Other cheaper overseas CPs are hit or miss with their spotty quality control. That's why you read one guy say good things and another guy say it sucks

Thanks. The more I read about VRSF fits I get iffy. Leaning towards ER. Anyone have any experience with the BMS? Haven’t seen much about it which can be good or bad I guess.

khj24 · 09-20-2020, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by jcalm002

Thanks. The more I read about VRSF fits I get iffy. Leaning towards ER. Anyone have any experience with the BMS? Haven’t seen much about it which can be good or bad I guess.

Really good fit for me, but RWD

n55david · 09-20-2020, 07:11 PM

the latest version of the vrsf pipe fits just fine and. I had a replacement for my 335 xdrive but needed to use it on my x3.. what better than my old one.

johnung · 09-20-2020, 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by jcalm002

Quote:

Originally Posted by johnung

No one makes a better quality, better fitting chargepipe than Evolution Racewerks. Made in USA. Other cheaper overseas CPs are hit or miss with their spotty quality control. That's why you read one guy say good things and another guy say it sucks

Thanks. The more I read about VRSF fits I get iffy. Leaning towards ER. Anyone have any experience with the BMS? Haven't seen much about it which can be good or bad I guess.

Heard someone say that BMS stuff is cheap overseas made

thejeremyman9 · 09-20-2020, 11:16 PM

The bottom line is that any CP can work. Its really just a matter of how likely it is to work without issues for one brand vs another

mike@x-ph.com · 09-21-2020, 09:03 AM

The best charge pipe on the market is Evolution Racewerks (handbuilt in the US). Second, best is the Active Autowerke.

We also carry BMS and CTS Turbo pipes, good fitment and quality at a more budget-friendly price

XutvJet · 09-21-2020, 09:27 AM

FTP by a mile. Excellent quality. Fits correctly. Crinkle black finish. All O-rings and C-clip included. Super fast shipping. $270 vs $330 for the ER CP.

mike@x-ph.com · 09-22-2020, 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by XutvJet

FTP by a mile. Excellent quality. Fits correctly. Crinkle black finish. All O-rings and C-clip included. Super fast shipping. $270 vs $330 for the ER CP.

We offer the FTP its a really good option, I would not compare the quality to Evolution Racwerks. ER quality is second to none.

But the for the price, i would definitely consider the FTP brand

Tpriest7893 · 09-22-2020, 10:25 AM

I have the vrsf intercooler as well and I went with the BMS charge pipe because it was $199 when I got it. I would of went vrsf but heard so many mix things I didn't want to chance it. No issues here!

jcalm002 · 09-22-2020, 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by mike@x-ph.com

We offer the FTP its a really good option, I would not compare the quality to Evolution Racwerks. ER quality is second to none.

But the for the price, i would definitely consider the FTP brand

I think I may go ER. Although Ive been watching youtube videos and people seem to really support the VRSF. Arghh. Decisions...

mike@x-ph.com · 09-22-2020, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Tpriest7893

I have the vrsf intercooler as well and I went with the BMS charge pipe because it was $199 when I got it. I would of went vrsf but heard so many mix things I didn't want to chance it. No issues here!

Congrats

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Originally Posted by jcalm002

I think I may go ER. Although Ive been watching youtube videos and people seem to really support the VRSF. Arghh. Decisions...

+1 for ER , here are a few none edited pictures

Blahx9 · 09-24-2020, 08:36 PM

Only 1 clamp on the silicon? Or they trying to show off that logo

Munchi435i · 09-24-2020, 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Blahx9

Only 1 clamp on the silicon? Or they trying to show off that logo

Showing off the logo

mike@x-ph.com · 09-28-2020, 06:15 PM

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Showing off the logo

09-20-2020, 02:34 PM	#1
jcalm002 New Member 4 Rep 17 Posts Drives: 2011 335i Xdrive Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Virginia iTrader: (0)	Charge pipe guidance Hello folks. I recently got back into the BMW game again and bought my 3rd 335i. Looking for some advice from everyone based on their experience with the various charge pipes out there. Last IC and CP combo I bought was from ETS and it worked well. I’ve scoped out various threads and see VRSF, BMS, ER charge pipes and am leaning towards the ER CP. I just installed the 5” VRSF IC and also running BMS Stage 1 on my 2015 335i (by the way it’s an AH3 too ). The OEM charge pipe was actually just replaced by BMW a month ago per the previous owner. I think I’ve got time as the CP is new and not worn yet but of course I’m thinking I need to upgrade the CP soon. So... thoughts? Keep the OEM one for a little while? ER vs VRSF vs Others??? Thanks for any advice!
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thejeremyman9 Major General 4364 Rep 7,606 Posts Drives: 2015 BMW 335i Join Date: May 2019 Location: Cali iTrader: (0)	VRSF is... well its VRSF. ER is generally regarded as the 'best' (in terms of quality/consistency/fitment, they all perform the same assuming they fit). FTP is another popular option, and the cheapest, and you can get a kit with TIC as well. There's endless info out there, just research and make a decision. Xdrive offerings may be limited.
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n55david Check out my Youtube @n55david! 1296 Rep 3,533 Posts Drives: 2017 m240i, 2015 X3 x35i Join Date: Aug 2018 Location: Michigan USA iTrader: (0) Garage List 2017 m240i xDrive [0.00] 2015 X3 x35i [0.00] 2015 335i xdrive [0.00]	the latest version of the vrsf pipe fits just fine and. I had a replacement for my 335 xdrive but needed to use it on my x3.. what better than my old one. __________________ 2017 m240i xDrive 10.99@122.86mph bootmod3 stage 2+ ots 2015 335i xDrive 10.95@124.99mph w/bm3 - SOLD 2015 X3 x35i pwg 12.96 catless w/bm3 stage 2 93 ots IG: @n55david For pics and updates! Youtube: @ n55david For videos or Racing etc
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thejeremyman9 Major General 4364 Rep 7,606 Posts Drives: 2015 BMW 335i Join Date: May 2019 Location: Cali iTrader: (0)	The bottom line is that any CP can work. Its really just a matter of how likely it is to work without issues for one brand vs another
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mike@x-ph.com BimmerPost Supporting Vendor 24183 Rep 190,777 Posts Drives: 07-335/12-328/18-M4/21-M4CP Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Las Vegas iTrader: (23)	The best charge pipe on the market is Evolution Racewerks (handbuilt in the US). Second, best is the Active Autowerke. We also carry BMS and CTS Turbo pipes, good fitment and quality at a more budget-friendly price __________________ Check out our current sale by clicking on this link! https://x-ph.com/sale/ Phone number 702-494-9435
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XutvJet Major General 5552 Rep 5,369 Posts Drives: 2011 Cayman Base, 2016 M235 Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: Kansas City iTrader: (-1)	FTP by a mile. Excellent quality. Fits correctly. Crinkle black finish. All O-rings and C-clip included. Super fast shipping. $270 vs $330 for the ER CP. __________________ The forest was shrinking, but the Trees kept voting for the Axe, for the Axe was clever and convinced the Trees that because his handle was made of wood, he was one of them.
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09-22-2020, 10:25 AM	#12
Tpriest7893 Captain 215 Rep 820 Posts Drives: Bmw 335i f30 N55 ( sold) Join Date: Nov 2017 Location: Venice Florida iTrader: (0) Garage List [0.00] 2012 bmw 335 [0.00] 02 2002 m3 Vert [0.00]	I have the vrsf intercooler as well and I went with the BMS charge pipe because it was $199 when I got it. I would of went vrsf but heard so many mix things I didn't want to chance it. No issues here! __________________ 2012 bmw 335i sedan VRSF catless DP VRSF 5? HD IC Stock intake(had open before and was sick of noise) BMS CP 550i 351m rims with 275/245 set up. No tune as of yet.
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Blahx9 Private 30 Rep 62 Posts Drives: 435i Join Date: Oct 2019 Location: NJ iTrader: (0)	Only 1 clamp on the silicon? Or they trying to show off that logo __________________ KWV1’s, Remus sport exhaust, VSRF hi-flow cat, TIC & Charge pipes, 5” stepped intercooler; turbosmart BOV,MST V2 inlet, MHD Stage 2, oem m437 wheels, m performance alcantara steering wheel.
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