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      08-19-2016, 03:29 AM   #1
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F series adaptive - Bilstein damptronic PnP dampers

Taken from Bilstein website - F series damptronic PnP dampers. Aftermarket alternative to OEM adaptive dampers.....



From L to R in the picture above
B4 - OE adaptive
B6 - upgraded adaptive
B16 - c/o's


Extract from Bilstein EU website:-
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05.08.2016

Perfect replacements: BILSTEIN announces DampTronic® components for BMW 1 Series to 4 Series

The new generations of the 1, 2, 3 and 4 Series BMW are equipped with clever suspension technology which makes them well versed in the core virtues of agility and handling. To ensure that the ultimate driving experience lasts throughout the service life of the vehicles, BILSTEIN will expand its range of standard replacement components and complete suspensions. Details will be announced at automechanika in September. In addition to the already available products for models without adaptive shock absorbers, vehicles with standard EDC are then also covered by the new DampTronic variants. In contrast to the competition, BILSTEIN will offer a complete portfolio of components for 1 Series to 4 Series vehicles. Plug-and-play makes installation easy.

The gas-pressure shock absorber type B4 DampTronic will be the replacement for standard parts in best OE quality, offering constant damping under any load, precise handling and high traction. “Better than the original” was the principle for the development of the BILSTEIN B6 DampTronic shock absorber, that features twin-tube or mono-tube upside-down technology. It delivers uncompromising road holding and increased tracking stability even in extreme situations, for example when pulling a trailer or with a heavy load in the vehicle.

Customers with standard active dampers looking for an even sportier driving experience with variable vehicle height can soon find their ideal partner in the BILSTEIN B16 DampTronic. The coilover suspension additionally allows adjustment of the damping force and features an adjustment range that is suitable for approval, permitting subsequent height adjustment without renewed approval. The “robust lightweight design” with numerous aluminum parts also supports the dynamic handling of the vehicle while ensuring a long service life.

BILSTEIN has been offering numerous standard replacement parts and suspensions without DampTronic® for all mentioned vehicles without actively controlled shock absorbers for some time. For example, the BILSTEIN B4 and B6 shock absorbers as well as the B8 are designed for combining with lowering springs. Other highlights in the range are the complete suspension BILSTEIN B12 Pro-Kit and the B14 and B16 coilover suspensions. The latter is available in the ridecontrol® version which offers ride modes that can be selected from the cockpit.

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BILSTEIN B4 DampTronic
•Article number: 23-238916 FAL, RRP: 407.00 euros excl. VAT
(for 2WD BMW 1-4 Series)
•Article number: 23-266469 FAL, RRP: 427.00 euros excl. VAT
(for 4WD BMW 1-4 Series)
•Article number: 23-238923 FAR, RRP: 407.00 euros excl. VAT
(for 2WD BMW 1-4 Series)
•Article number: 23-266476 FAR, RRP: 427.00 euros excl. VAT
(for 4WD BMW 1-4 Series)
•Article number: 20-238933 RA, RRP: 305.00 euros excl. VAT

BILSTEIN B6 DampTronic (for 2WD BMW 1-4 Series)
•Article number: 23-250727 FAL, RRP: 469.00 euros excl. VAT
(for 2WD BMW 1-4 Series)
•Article number: 23-266483 FAL, RRP: 479.00 euros excl. VAT
(for 4WD BMW 1-4 Series)
•Article number: 23-250734 FAR, RRP: 469.00 euros excl. VAT
(for 2WD BMW 1-4 Series)
•Article number: 23-266490 FAR, RRP: 479.00 euros excl. VAT
(for 4WD BMW 1-4 Series)
•Article number: 20-250744 RA, RRP: 359.00 euros excl. VAT


BILSTEIN B16 DampTronic (for 2WD BMW 1-4 Series)
•Article number: 49-255935, RRP: 2280.00 euros excl. VAT
•Article number: 49-255980, RRP: 2380.00 euros excl. VAT
Shame they don't offer B8 damptronic for our cars....

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      08-19-2016, 06:34 AM   #2
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B16 damptronic look like an interesting option for us with EDC... how good are they?
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Bilstein have a v good rep and no doubt have taken their time to develop these PnP products.

I'd imagine B6 damptronic would be night and day better than OEM adaptive. I'm just glad that there's now a viable non-OEM alternative in the event of my shocks needing to be replaced [more probable given that I'm running lowered springs] that will retain functionality, be cheaper and better suited to the aftermarket springs.
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According to Bilstein, the lowering range is 30mm-50mm front and rear. It would be ideal to have the option to at least maintain OEM suspension height.
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More EDC options, very cool. Though it seems like no coils for xDrive as of now. And it's not totally clear, are there adjustable modes you can select with the OEM sport/comfort switch on these? Or an added switch? It doesn't specify that, only mention of anything like that is ridecontrol mode on the B16 coils.
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Couldn't find a place to buy these in the US. Anyone know where I can buy these?

Would these match up well with the Dinan springs?
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In a few months, when I run out of warranty, it will be time to decide. KW dcc p'n'p or B16 Bilstein Damp Tronic
40-65 / 30-60 or 30-50 / 30-50
Which will be softer ??? Bilstein should be, no?
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More EDC options, very cool. Though it seems like no coils for xDrive as of now. And it's not totally clear, are there adjustable modes you can select with the OEM sport/comfort switch on these? Or an added switch? It doesn't specify that, only mention of anything like that is ridecontrol mode on the B16 coils.

"In addition to the already available products for models without adaptive shock absorbers, vehicles with standard EDC are then also covered by the new DampTronic variants. In contrast to the competition, BILSTEIN will offer a complete portfolio of components for 1 Series to 4 Series vehicles. Plug-and-play makes installation easy."


DampTronic®
BILSTEIN Damptronic® is an active damping system that integrates seamlessly with the OEM electronics on your car. As a Plug & Play solution it works perfectly with any factory-fitted adjustment systems, off ering peerless driving dynamics. In-built sensors monitor vibrations and movement, immediately relaying dynamic information to your car’s ECU – and then instantaneously through to each damper, adjusting it to your driving situation. Whether you’re flat-out on track or cruising the highway, you will always have optimum traction, stability and safety.


The OEM switch remain functional. If not, what would be the difference from the Ride Control
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It looks like the b6 damptronics wouldn't be a good match for cars with lowering springs, you would need b8 which is not offered. Is that right?
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B6 will work fine lowered springs
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B16 damptronic look like an interesting option for us with EDC... how good are they?
Bilstein Damptronic is one of our favorite coilover systems and I'm excited to see them finally coming to these BMWs, we've been using them on Porsches as replacements for the factory PASM suspension for customers who would like to go lower and have had extremely positive feedback from everyone who has had them installed!

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According to Bilstein, the lowering range is 30mm-50mm front and rear. It would be ideal to have the option to at least maintain OEM suspension height.
If you don't want to lower the suspension, you could always just replace the dampers with the B6 Damptronics for improved body control & handling without sacrificing any suspension travel or comfort.

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More EDC options, very cool. Though it seems like no coils for xDrive as of now. And it's not totally clear, are there adjustable modes you can select with the OEM sport/comfort switch on these? Or an added switch? It doesn't specify that, only mention of anything like that is ridecontrol mode on the B16 coils.
The Damptronic series of suspension options integrates directly with the Sport/Comfort switch in your car without requiring any additional switches to be wired in.

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Couldn't find a place to buy these in the US. Anyone know where I can buy these?
We are an authorized Bilstein dealer and carry their full line of products! These particular parts are not available yet but we'll be able to get them as soon as anybody!

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"In addition to the already available products for models without adaptive shock absorbers, vehicles with standard EDC are then also covered by the new DampTronic variants. In contrast to the competition, BILSTEIN will offer a complete portfolio of components for 1 Series to 4 Series vehicles. Plug-and-play makes installation easy."


DampTronic®
BILSTEIN Damptronic® is an active damping system that integrates seamlessly with the OEM electronics on your car. As a Plug & Play solution it works perfectly with any factory-fitted adjustment systems, off ering peerless driving dynamics. In-built sensors monitor vibrations and movement, immediately relaying dynamic information to your car’s ECU – and then instantaneously through to each damper, adjusting it to your driving situation. Whether you’re flat-out on track or cruising the highway, you will always have optimum traction, stability and safety.


The OEM switch remain functional. If not, what would be the difference from the Ride Control
Correct.
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It looks like the b6 damptronics wouldn't be a good match for cars with lowering springs, you would need b8 which is not offered. Is that right?
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B6 will work fine lowered springs

With lowering springs the most appropriate would be the B8 DampTronic http://www.bilstein.de/en/products/h...damptronicreg/
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Don't think bilstein make b8 DT for bmw f series.

B6 DT will work fine for std and lowered springs upto 30mm drop.
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Don't think bilstein make b8 DT for bmw f series.

B6 DT will work fine for std and lowered springs upto 30mm drop.
Sorry, you're right. There's no B8 DampTronic for our Fs
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Will the B6 pnp work as a plug and play swap for M adaptive suspension on 335i xdrive?
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It looks like the b6 damptronics wouldn't be a good match for cars with lowering springs, you would need b8 which is not offered. Is that right?
That's what the B4's are for
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Will the B6 pnp work as a plug and play swap for M adaptive suspension on 335i xdrive?
Yes Bilstein quote part nr for RWD and AWD
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That's what the B4's are for
Not so b4 are oem standard replacement.

B6 DT is the way to go for lowered springs up to 30mm drop.
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Definitely interested in this. Pretty awesome that you'll be able to control different modes with the stock switch. Was going to go with the b14s and code out my adaptive but if this works seamlessly with the stock system then that's great.
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Oh man, why no b16s for xdrive for pnp with the adaptive suspension?

I have been looking for a way to drop my wagon by like 20-25mm. Just so it is roughly the same as an rwd car with OEM sport suspention. I didn't really want to do just springs for wearing out the dampers.

Maybe the b6 and springs would get me there. But it seems like most springs give way more than .8 to 1 inch drop for xdrive and would put them over the 30mm drop for the b6s
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Oh man, why no b16s for xdrive for pnp with the adaptive suspension?

I have been looking for a way to drop my wagon by like 20-25mm. Just so it is roughly the same as an rwd car with OEM sport suspention. I didn't really want to do just springs for wearing out the dampers.

Maybe the b6 and springs would get me there. But it seems like most springs give way more than .8 to 1 inch drop for xdrive and would put them over the 30mm drop for the b6s
I'm with you here, why no B16s for X-Drive with adaptive... The KW's lower to much.
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I'm with you here, why no B16s for X-Drive with adaptive... The KW's lower to much.
and it would retain the factory EDC for us Xdrive guys that have adaptive. With BMW making so many cars xdrive now you would think the aftermarket would start catering to xdrive cars equally.
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