[n8ronj]

Originally Posted by kingnothing9

New to forum. I have a 2014 328d xdrive. I bought used July 2016 with 30,000 miles. Had just gone through dealer for new ads and rotors front and rear under warranty. I like the car but ridiculous amount of issues. Have 103,000 on it now. I have a 75 mile commute daily, almost entirely highway. 75mph and fairly aggressive. So far under warranty they’ve replaced a rear axle seal, all 4 door locks, a seat belt, and taillight. Since it went out of warranty at 50,000, I had to replace torque struts on both sides, $1400, a fuel tube, $600, and it’s currently sitting in the dealer for a string of emission issues. I’ve taken it to dealer for all scheduled maintenance. Twice I brought it in for suspected EGR cooler failure under recall. First time they said was fine, typical to lose antifreeze. Second time went into limp mode they told me cooler was leaking but not recall because leaking externally. Also had to clean intake manifold and valves. Drove 2 days went into limp again. Towed in again said it was turbo pressure sensor, $150. Got 3 miles from dealer CEL on again. Went back been there since. They said first NOX sensors, under warranty. Then cat, $2800. At that point I stopped and called BMWNA. So far they said might give me a little discount. I’m seriously considering taking the car home and ordering the full exhaust and tune kit from Tune My Euro in Georgia. Ridiculous that 100,000 mile car whole emission system failing. I have an 05 duramax and have had Chevy diesels for 20 years. I know not the same but this is ridiculous that a $55,000 car BMW won’t stand behind their poor design.
Any suggestions, advise, recommendations would be great.

Curious as to how local you are to me. I'm in Lockport. Can I assume that the dealer you go to is Towne BMW? They've done decent work but boy oh boy has the price tag been crazy. Their latest quote for replacing the inlet intake to fix the swirl flap issue was $2100 and their quote for changing the downstream O2 sensor is $621.

[4 Doors]

I'm usually in the E90/E91 section of the forums. More specifically, the "E91s for sale" thread. However, I noticed a nice possibly rare-optioned F31 for sale and am looking for some insight on price.

2014 328d xDrive Touring
-Black Sapphire over Dakota Black, Shadowline
-101,000 miles
-M Sport package (full package, interior, exterior, anthracite headliner, etc.)
-ST2BA Sport Trans
-Xenon, Comfort Access, Alarm, HUD, HiFi speakers, and other options

What would you pay or what is reasonable for the miles, knowing it is an M-Sport optioned wagon and diesel?

[Tim07e90]

Originally Posted by 4 Doors

I'm usually in the E90/E91 section of the forums. More specifically, the "E91s for sale" thread. However, I noticed a nice possibly rare-optioned F31 for sale and am looking for some insight on price.

2014 328d xDrive Touring
-Black Sapphire over Dakota Black, Shadowline
-101,000 miles
-M Sport package (full package, interior, exterior, anthracite headliner, etc.)
-ST2BA Sport Trans
-Xenon, Comfort Access, Alarm, HUD, HiFi speakers, and other options

What would you pay or what is reasonable for the miles, knowing it is an M-Sport optioned wagon and diesel?

Probably no more than $12-14k depending on condition.

[4 Doors]

Originally Posted by Tim07e90

Probably no more than $12-14k depending on condition.

Thank you. It is currently listed for $13,000 so right on for price. I may bargain for lower depending on other factors. I've noticed others saying to check the transfer case. Is there a way to check if it is bad without getting it on a lift?

[Tim07e90]

Originally Posted by 4 Doors

Thank you. It is currently listed for $13,000 so right on for price. I may bargain for lower depending on other factors. I've noticed others saying to check the transfer case. Is there a way to check if it is bad without getting it on a lift?

You'd have to ask member Enabled about that. I had no sign, nor symptoms of a bad transfer case when mine went out. I always feel like mine is about to break every time I accelerate. Lol. Just know that at some point in time the EGR and transfer case will go bad. Once you know that, it's a wonderful car. I even favor this over my M5...sometimes. Lol

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If it's the original transfer case, you're going to have trouble eventually. The output flange will wear itself from the 4 cylinders banging on it, diesel or gas.

The rest of the transfer case is quite solid with nice components, so if the output flange issue is solved by restricting the movements, then it's essentially cured.


These cars are very good, and dare I say, simple. They do shine once a few (advanced/experienced DIY) fixes are done, they're very solid. The community here is dedicated to helping each other, and there's a lot of knowledge.

I use my old Jetta TDI very often, but I'm happy to step away from timing belt changes, and all the VW-type repairs I've had to do to it.

[4 Doors]

Originally Posted by Enabled

If it's the original transfer case, you're going to have trouble eventually. The output flange will wear itself from the 4 cylinders banging on it, diesel or gas.

The rest of the transfer case is quite solid with nice components, so if the output flange issue is solved by restricting the movements, then it's essentially cured.


These cars are very good, and dare I say, simple. They do shine once a few (advanced/experienced DIY) fixes are done, they're very solid. The community here is dedicated to helping each other, and there's a lot of knowledge.

I use my old Jetta TDI very often, but I'm happy to step away from timing belt changes, and all the VW-type repairs I've had to do to it.

If I don't see any CarFax specific repairs to transfer case, can I visually inspect it to see if it has been replaced? For example, date stamp and part number on the T-case itself?

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Yes, it has a date stamp on the rear facing surface, lower left. It's engraved/stamped in with the part numbers.

[mrgolf100]

I'm the guy on this thread that's had 3 transfer cases (although none in the last 90,000 miles (last one was at 120k mi., currently at 210,000 mi - probably for awhile since we're not allowed out of the house much..). I was in the dealership for the EGR recall this week and they mentioned that they couldn't do the CV Joint recall because they didn't have the tools/parts. Anyway, first time i heard of it so i looked it up. It's relatively new. Anyone think this could be related to trashing transfer cases or am i reaching? I've also had a "Check Drivetrain" message on the dash for the last 20,000 miles. Two oil changes at the dealer and no one has said anything about it..

https://www.usatoday.com/recalls/aut...TSA-20V185000/

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Originally Posted by mrgolf100

I'm the guy on this thread that's had 3 transfer cases (although none in the last 90,000 miles (last one was at 120k mi., currently at 210,000 mi - probably for awhile since we're not allowed out of the house much..). I was in the dealership for the EGR recall this week and they mentioned that they couldn't do the CV Joint recall because they didn't have the tools/parts. Anyway, first time i heard of it so i looked it up. It's relatively new. Anyone think this could be related to trashing transfer cases or am i reaching? I've also had a "Check Drivetrain" message on the dash for the last 20,000 miles. Two oil changes at the dealer and no one has said anything about it..

https://www.usatoday.com/recalls/aut...TSA-20V185000/

You should get the codes read. That's the only way to know what errors it has

A failed "CV joint" (it's not a CV joint at all) will not throw codes until it's completely sheared off, but that you'd notice. And sometimes no codes even then.

[n00bkiller944]

Originally Posted by mrgolf100

I'm the guy on this thread that's had 3 transfer cases (although none in the last 90,000 miles (last one was at 120k mi., currently at 210,000 mi - probably for awhile since we're not allowed out of the house much..). I was in the dealership for the EGR recall this week and they mentioned that they couldn't do the CV Joint recall because they didn't have the tools/parts. Anyway, first time i heard of it so i looked it up. It's relatively new. Anyone think this could be related to trashing transfer cases or am i reaching? I've also had a "Check Drivetrain" message on the dash for the last 20,000 miles. Two oil changes at the dealer and no one has said anything about it..

https://www.usatoday.com/recalls/aut...TSA-20V185000/

Ask the dealer what the codes are for on the "check drivetrain" while its there. At least you will know what you have to DIY when they give you a horrible price. lol

[Brekalo]

My 320d 2014 is still doing great. 195 000 km and still rocking, I haven't changed anything beside normal oil service and filters. Next month Im changing original brake discs and I'm thinking about transmission oil change, as I haven't done it at all.
Last time on service they measured chain, and it's 1mm beyond reference point, and I have been suggested that I don't need to change it as it's really expensive. The car still drives smooth, 70 % of that mileage is freeway 130 kmh cruzing

[mrgolf100]

So i went to the dealer to get the recall work done on the EGR cooler and an hour later get a call that if i don't replace the EGR Valve replaced at my expense of $350 (part only, no labor since they were in there already) they would not proceed. They said the computer was storing fault codes for "EGR Valve mechanically jammed." Anyway, it's got 206,000 mi. on it and no CEL so i said nope, got it washed and took it back.

Does all of this sound legit? Should i be worried about EGR Valve? i can probably give the work to an Indy shop nearby with the labor for the same price if i need to.

[haagm58]

Originally Posted by mrgolf100

So i went to the dealer to get the recall work done on the EGR cooler and an hour later get a call that if i don't replace the EGR Valve replaced at my expense of $350 (part only, no labor since they were in there already) they would not proceed. They said the computer was storing fault codes for "EGR Valve mechanically jammed." Anyway, it's got 206,000 mi. on it and no CEL so i said nope, got it washed and took it back.

Does all of this sound legit? Should i be worried about EGR Valve? i can probably give the work to an Indy shop nearby with the labor for the same price if i need to.

How much longer do you plan on driving it? Seems like a low enough cost repair to get done as a precautionary measure.

[mrgolf100]

logic would say i should but the car is only worth $5k total so that's still a significant cost at this point. I also maintain a CEL would come on if anything terrible was going on, no? i know nothing about cars but bought this one new and have had good luck just fixing stuff as it comes up on the car computer.

[Chukker]

Wish I found this thread before I bought my 2015 328d xdrive Touring six months ago...should teach me to study up before plunging into the recall issues. Right after I bought my car, I learned about the EGR cooler recall. At that point, I was trying to sort out the bad, second key fob the dealer (not BMW) had given me with the car. Wasn't even for my car. Several hundred dollars later, my wife can now get into my car!

BMW dealership told me the EGR cooler recall might involve my car being held by them until they could get the backordered parts, if it indeed needed them. It was winter and I decided to wait. Then I got the CEL for the O2 sensors. I was not aware (at the time) that BMW had extended the warranty for the sensors. But before I could take it in for that and the EGR inspection, I received the recall notice from BMW on the CV joint/transfer case.

Got everything inspected last week at the dealership and my car needed the EGR cooler, O2 sensors, the CV joint AND the transfer case. I am torn between grief and excitement knowing that I dodged a bullet on some major $$$ repairs but that it's unclear that the fixes will make this vehicle a good candidate for long term ownership. I tend to keep my vehicles a long time (more than 10 years). We'll see...

[haagm58]

Originally Posted by Chukker

Wish I found this thread before I bought my 2015 328d xdrive Touring six months ago...should teach me to study up before plunging into the recall issues. Right after I bought my car, I learned about the EGR cooler recall. At that point, I was trying to sort out the bad, second key fob the dealer (not BMW) had given me with the car. Wasn't even for my car. Several hundred dollars later, my wife can now get into my car!

BMW dealership told me the EGR cooler recall might involve my car being held by them until they could get the backordered parts, if it indeed needed them. It was winter and I decided to wait. Then I got the CEL for the O2 sensors. I was not aware (at the time) that BMW had extended the warranty for the sensors. But before I could take it in for that and the EGR inspection, I received the recall notice from BMW on the CV joint/transfer case.

Got everything inspected last week at the dealership and my car needed the EGR cooler, O2 sensors, the CV joint AND the transfer case. I am torn between grief and excitement knowing that I dodged a bullet on some major $$$ repairs but that it's unclear that the fixes will make this vehicle a good candidate for long term ownership. I tend to keep my vehicles a long time (more than 10 years). We'll see...

It's fortunate you're getting everything taken care of at no cost. It's a great vehicle, assuming the previous owner(s) performed regular maintenance and didn't cut corners. I've had my '14 for 2.5 years and have only had one issue - a NOx sensor failure; it's been an excellent car otherwise. Hopefully you find the help and research that you need in this forum, it's pretty active.

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Now that you got the main things fixed and taken care of... No need to get rid of it! A couple of items are not representative of the whole car.

[Chukker]

Originally Posted by Enabled

Now that you got the main things fixed and taken care of... No need to get rid of it! A couple of items are not representative of the whole car.

I have a huge sense of relief knowing that the major issues with this model vehicle are now addressed. Before I pick it up, I'm going to ask the dealer to check the battery. With 5 years on it, now might be a good time to have them change it out - before the heat of summer and the cold of winter. I've already changed the air and oil filters (with oil changes) and have had the brakes flushed. Anybody think of anything else I should look at having done on a 60k mile vehicle?

It's going to be super having all these things done! I really love the looks and feel of this car. I want it to be a keeper!

[FaRKle!]

Originally Posted by Chukker

Anybody think of anything else I should look at having done on a 60k mile vehicle?

Transmission fluid/pan change.

[haagm58]

Originally Posted by Chukker

I have a huge sense of relief knowing that the major issues with this model vehicle are now addressed. Before I pick it up, I'm going to ask the dealer to check the battery. With 5 years on it, now might be a good time to have them change it out - before the heat of summer and the cold of winter. I've already changed the air and oil filters (with oil changes) and have had the brakes flushed. Anybody think of anything else I should look at having done on a 60k mile vehicle?

It's going to be super having all these things done! I really love the looks and feel of this car. I want it to be a keeper!

Chukker, subscribe to this thread - https://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1720987

[Chukker]

Originally Posted by FaRKle!

Transmission fluid/pan change.

I've started watching your YouTube videos - if you're the same guy. Hope you turn out some more - they're great!