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Otherwise, the ATM is a superior performer on the track, and barely gives up anything in throttle response. There is also the VRSF large core Intercooler a. Have you considered upgrading the Diverter valve? |
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Now, if I could get the Evo 3 to work, it’ll give a 20-25F improvement over the Evo 2 which would be noticeable, and apparently similar throttle response as the Evo 2. Tho, it weighs 6lbs more than the ATM and 10lbs over the Evo 2. Maybe I should order and modify it. Just sucks to pay that much and still have to rig something up. If it’s just remove the bracing, that’s easy, but I can’t get a confirmation on that. Sorry for all the M2 talk over here guys, I thought the Evo 3 was a go for me and wanted to mention it over here. Last edited by ZM2; 02-26-2020 at 08:25 PM.. |
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02-27-2020, 08:24 AM | #28 | |
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As I mentioned, a 10F difference isn’t going to make much of an impact for guys running Emixes on track. I wouldn’t trade to a 5lb heavier IC with worse throttle response in town to gain what would only be a few hp on an Emix tune on track. To get a 20F+ difference over the Evo 2 we’re talking about needing a massive IC, all of which are going to be 30lbs+. I need to see if any of the massive bar/plate IC’s have that kind of performance gain without making lag even worse. Apparently the Evo 3 achieves all these things from Wagner’s data, but I have to figure out what about it doesn’t fit. |
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I installed the Active Autowerke IC and currently run BM3 stage 1 and there is definitely more turbo lag of idle. I got such a great deal on the IC from XPH I couldn't pass it up as I do not track or race my car. I'm hoping that when I switch to stage II I'll get a little more boost down low to make up for the lag. Just waiting for the weather to improve in the northeast before going stage II.
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IMO the lag increase form adding a 5.5'' stepped IC such as the VRSF, AA, etc, is nearly imperceptible compared to stock. I think he might be exaggerating (read: overly sensitive) and/or have an issue like a boost leak. I guess what i am saying is that you should not let fears of increased lag prevent you from making this important upgrade.
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To clarify, I notice a bit of lag off idle until 1800-2K. I feel it is slightly more noticeable especially in comfort mode than sport. Most single turbo cars have some lag down low and I was warned about this when upgrading the IC to a large one than stock. I would not let it deter you from upgrading however. I'm hoping when I flash stage II it will not be an issue.
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I am in the same position as johnung who posted earlier. Trying to avoid turbo lag and pressure drop. Looking to go FBO with BM3 Stage 2 93 octane. Mostly daily city driving with some spirited weekend driving. I don’t track or race the car. Only difference is I am based in Phoenix, AZ with a much warmer climate than NJ. I am wondering if the Wagner EVO II Comp would be the best option for optimal cooling for my climate while still avoiding turbo lag/pressure drop? Or would I be better off with the EVO I Comp? Any reason to choose one over the other for my application?
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If you’re stage 2 FBO - the Evo 1 is too small, and you should be looking at 6” cores like the Evo 2. With that said, if you track the car, the Evo 2 is just too small to provide adequate cooling compared to other brands. If you don’t, it’s a solid choice. Most brands do introduce much if any lag into the system, but I have heard good things about the Wagner overall in that department though. |
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Thanks for your guidance & expertise on this subject! Sounds like EVO II Comp it is. |
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