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      04-12-2021, 02:09 PM   #573
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I'm guessing toluene is more of an octane booster if you need less per tank?
just read about Toluene , to complicated i think, better use some ethanol
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Here are the results of the spring session. Fuel 98 + 20% E85 + WMI. Air temperature + 4 / 11C. Country road with concrete surface. Boost 26psi, timing 14.
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Here are the results of the spring session. Fuel 98 + 20% E85 + WMI. Air temperature + 4 / 11C. Country road with concrete surface. Boost 26psi, timing 14.
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Fuel = E35 and boost = Too much.
There really wasn't any extra left in it

Only way its getting quicker is if it looses weight or it gets a meth addiction.
Rapid times for such a heavy car.

Where are you getting your Ethanol from in the UK? Seems like supply is pretty low just now.
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Got 100Ron and E85. I made a mix E40 out of them. Plus WMI. Here is the result.
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willing to share a log running that mix ??
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willing to share a log running that mix ??
30l 100Ron + 20l E85 + WMI
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Some revisions today and it's more like 550hp. Maybe more
Man my 340i is running E40 tune Pure 800 and I'm getting around around 8.5 60-130mph. My pump 92 was 9.75 lol. Are you RWD, AWD? Also do you floor it in sport + or full traction off? Manual mode?
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Man my 340i is running E40 tune Pure 800 and I'm getting around around 8.5 60-130mph. My pump 92 was 9.75 lol. Are you RWD, AWD? Also do you floor it in sport + or full traction off? Manual mode?
8.5 sec 100-200 with pure turbo 800 and E40... something must be wrong , at least with the right map you should easy get a low 7
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Man my 340i is running E40 tune Pure 800 and I'm getting around around 8.5 60-130mph. My pump 92 was 9.75 lol. Are you RWD, AWD? Also do you floor it in sport + or full traction off? Manual mode?
8.5 sec 100-200 with pure turbo 800 and E40... something must be wrong , at least with the right map you should easy get a low 7
Yeah I'm not sure what's going on. Only outlier I would guess right away is my TU pump instead of a dorsch stage 2 pump. Otherwise, I'm hoping it's my 255 A/S3 + that are limiting my power in sports plus. Once I get my new beefier PS4S I'll run it again.

This run was also on D sports plus just sending it. Maybe S mode manual mode might give me better times.
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Yeah I'm not sure what's going on. Only outlier I would guess right away is my TU pump instead of a dorsch stage 2 pump. Otherwise, I'm hoping it's my 255 A/S3 + that are limiting my power in sports plus. Once I get my new beefier PS4S I'll run it again.

This run was also on D sports plus just sending it. Maybe S mode manual mode might give me better times.
so still runing the oem tu pump ?
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Yeah I'm not sure what's going on. Only outlier I would guess right away is my TU pump instead of a dorsch stage 2 pump. Otherwise, I'm hoping it's my 255 A/S3 + that are limiting my power in sports plus. Once I get my new beefier PS4S I'll run it again.

This run was also on D sports plus just sending it. Maybe S mode manual mode might give me better times.
so still runing the oem tu pump ?
TU pump yes
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TU pump yes
that explains i think , Pure turbo 800 needs at least the Dorch stage 1 pump and if running with more then E40 meth Dorch stage 2. what map you are running now ( make a log if possible, it should show a lot )
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I'm reading here and reading... and wondering - when does the B58 break!? I mean how much boost and fuel and, and, and does it take and how are you not worried it will just burst in flames with all those mods..... 😄

I've seen impressive times from engines.... which are achievable only once or twice, before the Big Bang ... but what's the point?
I'm sure I can fly..... but only once....
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TU pump yes
that explains i think , Pure turbo 800 needs at least the Dorch stage 1 pump and if running with more then E40 meth Dorch stage 2. what map you are running now ( make a log if possible, it should show a lot )
Appreciate the response! That would make a huge difference then in explaining why it is considerably slower than others on same tune. Thought I would just try and max my pump while I'm at it before upgrading down the road.

https://datazap.me/u/alfanzo2/pure-8...&data=3-20

Log above is my last revision. First pull spun sideways so had to stop but 2nd pull should be a full 3rd. I also have full 4th gear pulls near the end as well. Tuner says I'm maxed out for my fuel right now on this revision.
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I'm reading here and reading... and wondering - when does the B58 break!? I mean how much boost and fuel and, and, and does it take and how are you not worried it will just burst in flames with all those mods..... 😄

I've seen impressive times from engines.... which are achievable only once or twice, before the Big Bang ... but what's the point?
I'm sure I can fly..... but only once....
My stage 3 mileage is already 45000 km. Total 60000 km. Boost 23 / 24psi every day and 26 / 27psi on weekends for racing. You've all seen my times. The car and the engine are all right.
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Appreciate the response! That would make a huge difference then in explaining why it is considerably slower than others on same tune. Thought I would just try and max my pump while I'm at it before upgrading down the road.

https://datazap.me/u/alfanzo2/pure-8...og=0&data=3-20

Log above is my last revision. First pull spun sideways so had to stop but 2nd pull should be a full 3rd. I also have full 4th gear pulls near the end as well. Tuner says I'm maxed out for my fuel right now on this revision.
You should make a log run in 4th gear a full whot ( from 3000rpm until 7200 rpm and then loose your throttle ) from this log i can not see anything is there no HFP option in the log ?
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Appreciate the response! That would make a huge difference then in explaining why it is considerably slower than others on same tune. Thought I would just try and max my pump while I'm at it before upgrading down the road.

https://datazap.me/u/alfanzo2/pure-8...&data=3-20

Log above is my last revision. First pull spun sideways so had to stop but 2nd pull should be a full 3rd. I also have full 4th gear pulls near the end as well. Tuner says I'm maxed out for my fuel right now on this revision.
You should make a log run in 4th gear a full whot ( from 3000rpm until 7200 rpm and then loose your throttle ) from this log i can not see anything is there no HFP option in the log ?
Weird, I do have two full fourth gear pulls at the end, but it might be hard to see . I will make a new clean one when I switch back to E40

As for the HFP option, I do not see any option to add that to the logging and I am on the most updated MHD version.
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8.5 sec 100-200 with pure turbo 800 and E40... something must be wrong , at least with the right map you should easy get a low 7
He said 8.5 60-130 mph, not 8.5 100-200 kph. So his 100-200 likely is in the 7.2x range.
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He said 8.5 60-130 mph, not 8.5 100-200 kph. So his 100-200 likely is in the 7.2x range.
yep you.re right, my mistake
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all mhd stages tested on a B58 catless
tu pump and E30 , numbers in whp
Interesting that 2+ power drops off so similarly to stock. Anyone know why that might be? Is it fueling due to the bare minimum hpfp? Turbo limitation, maybe?
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According to a fellow forum member, it is the stock turbo which gets to its limit at higher rpms....

https://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1819572
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