09-13-2015, 08:39 AM | #177 |
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That is good info to know and I wouldn't be surprised if BMW didn't care about it. Just be careful the carpeting underneath doesn't get wrecked.
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Is it a good idea to walk in and say you're buying the car, then negotiate the purchase price (invoice + approx $1200 depending on how hot the model is).
Once you've settled on the purchase price, then say you want to lease it, and work with the purchase price. |
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You don't need to lie, necessarily. A lease is just a finance option, and it doesn't cost the dealer anything. So yes, once you're interested in moving forward, you should negotiate based on the invoice price. The MF and residuals are set by BMWFS so there's nothing you can do there. You might have a little wiggle room with the fees the dealer charges.
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The only time it usually makes any difference is if you are going to pay all cash. Otherwise it won't make any difference if you finance or lease. Dealers don't like all cash buyers as much because they don't get any bonus for setting up financing.
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You are correct the base rate (now .00130) is set by BMW and they allow the dealer to mark that up by up to four basis points for extra profit. Many dealers will give you the base rate.
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Here is some updates on my lease: I just tried negotiating with the BMW dealers and here is my input:
12000 miles 36 months MSRP 49450 (428i xDrive Coupe 2015) CAP cost is $44000, it was $44685 (and that includes $500 build-in credit) Excess mileage will be $.20/miles Residual is 60%, MF is 0.00081 (with 7 MSDs) First payment is $485.19 with tax Security Deposit is $3500 Acquisition fee is $925 DMV fee is $47 Doc fee is $210 Cap reduction tax is $69.54 Drive-off is $5236.73 What do you think? I still have $1000 credit but I haven't told them yet. It will reduce my monthly payment to $455 per month. Should I go lower? Is there any more room for negotiation? And is there a longer lease term rather than 36/12k? |
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It looks good except I have no idea if you negotiated price is any good. Just post it in this thread. http://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=842749 If that cap cost price is considered good, then the rest is great. Congrats
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That is odd. It's just been sitting on a lot? First, see if you can find out why it's been sitting; damage, malfunction, or undesirable options? Then find out about the new car maintenance and warranty. It should start on the purchase date, but make sure. I would start somewhere under invoice before incentives. Any car sitting that long is costing the dealer serious money.
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MSRP: 42800 MF: .0013 RV: 60% Cap Cost: 39900 CC Reduction: 2900 MSDs:none Acquisition: 995 Disposition: 350 Taxes:2411.94 Govt: 331 Doc: 299 Monthly: 480 3967 + first month due at signing Is this a good deal? Edit: Got it down to $465/month if I sign today. Last edited by kisho; 09-28-2015 at 11:00 AM.. |
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I'm having difficulty understanding how tax is calculated into the monthly payment.
In my case, in Florida you don't pay the entire tax up front from my understanding. |
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End of lease - residual
So, just for the heck of it, I looked up the trade in value of my 328. Wow! The trade in value is already about $2,000 LESS than the residual and it sure isn't going to appreciate over the next eleven months. I'm "guessing" the thing will probably drop at least another $2,000 by the time I have to turn it in.
No big deal for me - hand them the keys and walk away - done! But if someone wants to buy their car at lease end (not me under any circumstance) does BMW negotiate a better price or are the happy to add it to the 150 or so other 328i's sitting on their lot? Just curious because somebody here must have gone through this drill. |
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