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xDrive will not prevent you from sliding anymore than RWD will. Sliding is lateral movement.
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03-16-2015, 02:32 PM | #46 |
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Good choice. it might be boring compared to RWD, but I seem to have no problem power sliding the car round - even in the wet!
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Stock ride height made me want to vomit: Easily corrected with a set of H&R Sports: As for all the guys touting how much more "fun" RWD is than AWD, I suppose that all comes down to your point of view and what your definition of "fun" is. Personally, I have no problems getting the rear end to step out on my AWD whenever I want to simply by putting the car in Sport+ mode and using my 6MT to modulate the power delivery. So if that is what makes it "fun" to drive a RWD, it can be done with AWD as well. If your talking about drifting on the track, I would agree that is easier to do with a RWD than an AWD...but then again I'd rather have more fun by getting a better lap time, not wasting time sliding around. Add to that the ability to get through pretty much any amount of snow in the winter...I'm just fine with AWD. But that's my experience and what works for me. To each their own, but I don't think anyone can categorically say which is "better". |
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03-16-2015, 02:48 PM | #49 |
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Hey Laguna...you have the H&R xDrive version springs? Do you have any issues? I've been reading posts where people say a) it puts stress on your AWD, b) kills your ride comfort, c) wears down your struts quickly. Granted some of the people saying that might not even have xDrive with the H&Rs installed.
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I have the correct xDrive part numbers - slightly less drop than RWD version to account for xDrive half shaft angles. No issues. I also have DHC. No issues. Ride comfort? It's a lowered vehicle...for those who want ride comfort, go drive your dad's 1995 Buick Roadmaster...and while your at it get a porch swing and buy a cardigan. Cause you're old. What kills your struts (and rims) is driving on GTA (Greater Toronto Area) roads! F'n potholes!! |
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Cops are a real pain in the ass when it comes to Tinted windows here in Toronto. Most don't care and will leave you alone, but every now and then...there's "that guy". The Cop that feels it's his personal mission in life to ruin your day by being a prick...just because he can.
Sorry OP, this thread has come a bit You won't regret your decision to go with xDrive. Just remember to get winter tires as well when the time comes. Go see Allen at Simply Tire in the GTA...he will set you up with a good deal. If you're concerned about ride height get a set of H&R Sport Springs, just make sure you get the xDrive version...product number for 2014-15 435 xDrive is 28832-1 |
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I was going to turn around and walk right out of this one but this post caught my eye too. Carry on with the pointless back and forth................you can see from my cars what side of the fence I live on.
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You said xDrive is better because it'll stop better. Better is a comparative term. Better than what? Better when equipped with snow tires as opposed to all seasons. Well, no shit! That's obvious. Your post implied that the xDrive was better for control and stopping than RWD. That's not true. If an xDrive car and a RWD are equipped with identical winter tires, there's no significant difference in "control" - lateral grip - and stopping. Those are simply a function of the level of static traction your winter tires would provide. |
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I can't see how any additional braking force applied to the rear wheels (either through use of the emergency brake or engine braking) would the effects described above. If anything, it would tend to make you more likely to exceed the maximum tractive force at the rear wheels, which itself would cause a fishtail. That said, I think it is plausible that additional braking force applied to the rear wheels only could help you recover from, but not prevent, a fishtail. That's because if the rear wheels are sliding out, you want to apply the maximum braking force possible at the rear wheels because this force will act to restore the vehicle to its direction of travel and reduce the yaw angle. So a vehicle with locked up rear wheels and unbraked front wheels will probably straighten out more quickly than one in which the rear wheels are still rolling. But I don't see how this effect could help until the vehicle has already begun to fishtail. How so? If you take the same vehicle with the same rate of deceleration, and in one instance you're achieving that deceleration through engine braking (applied to only the front wheels, since it's FWD) and in the other instance you're achieving it through use of the service brake, you have to apply the same net force to the vehicle (because force is directly proportional to acceleration). Therefore, the force applied by the front tires in the engine braking scenario is going to be approximately twice the force applied by the front tires in the service braking scenario. As a result, the front tires are much closer to reaching their maximum force of static friction (which, if exceeded, causes the wheels to lock up) in the engine braking scenario. This does not seem like the effect desired. |
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So I live in the GTA and I decided to get Xdrive because snow driving was absolutely BRUTAL in my G37s coupe even with winters (albeit not top of the line winters). With brand new Micheline Alpine PA4s I have never had an issue and I'm super happy with the Xdrive and the winters. I can tell you that top of the line winter tires make more of a difference than Xdrive. However, since you live in stouffville I'm not sure if you guys get more snow or if it gets plowed less often. As roads are usually plowed relatively well in one day so personally I think I would have been okay with RWD but if you live in any place that takes a bit longer to plow some areas its much better to just get Xdrive. Also in Canada the resale value is SO much better with xdrive, and I would get it just for this option of re sale. Unless your hardcore track guy, of which then you would probably just get a dedicated track car, then there really is no reason to get RWD in GTA. If I lived in sunnier states I would never get AWD cause burnouts haha.
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Yeah, you expect to see more rear drivers down south. However, I'm currently driving down the coast and am in Myrtle Beach, SC right now. There are NO BMWs to be found. No rear drivers, no xDrive, no nothing. I've seen more Chevy Police Caprices down here than BMWs, which I never see in NY (we have the Charger PPVs).
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In the south and west xDrive is like a unicorn. I still can't get used to the fact that every car on Chicagoland BMW lots is an xDrive. Coming from a long history of RWD being one of the defining characteristics of BMW it is just so weird.
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