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      09-29-2017, 04:57 PM   #265
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You make a strong argument. Did you fit yourself ? Will cost me an extra £140 and they charge more to retune. Couldn't see anything extra to justify the cost over bs. I thought the talk of drop off was just down to peoples choice of settings. I do have time to change my mind. Like I say brought two for the discount. Youve put a cat amount the pigeons
Yes I fitted myself, it's not difficult if you take your time, if you are near DTUKs office they will fit it for you.

I don't get any kickbacks I am just giving you my experience of both boxes.

The three channel box is better than the two channel.

The DTUK boxes are made in Germany by a company called DTE Systems

https://www.chiptuning.com/uk/

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You make a strong argument. Did you fit yourself ? Will cost me an extra £140 and they charge more to retune. Couldn't see anything extra to justify the cost over bs. I thought the talk of drop off was just down to peoples choice of settings. I do have time to change my mind. Like I say brought two for the discount. Youve put a cat amount the pigeons
Yes I fitted myself, it's not difficult if you take your time, if you are near DTUKs office they will fit it for you.

I don't get any kickbacks I am just giving you my experience of both boxes.

The three channel box is better than the two channel.

The DTUK boxes are made in Germany by a company called DTE Systems

https://www.chiptuning.com/uk/

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You had your car on a dyno with the dtuk 3 channel? Interested to see a dyno plot if it is closer to a remap
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You had your car on a dyno with the dtuk 3 channel? Interested to see a dyno plot if it is closer to a remap
On the Surrey Rolling Road thread there is a comparison between mine and two DMS graphs

The one attached is the DTUK v BS both on my car, the DTUK is the top curve
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You had your car on a dyno with the dtuk 3 channel? Interested to see a dyno plot if it is closer to a remap
On the Surrey Rolling Road thread there is a comparison between mine and two DMS graphs

The one attached is the DTUK v BS both on my car, the DTUK is the top curve
Looks like the dtuk is making around 20bhp and 50ftlb more so no wonder you like it better
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Looks like the dtuk is making around 20bhp and 50ftlb more so no wonder you like it better
It's not just the power it's also more refined and smoother in its delivery, not to mention a lot easier to change the settings.
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What setting you running JLR?
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What setting you running JLR?
The graph was map 2 (fuel and boost) +3 running Shell V Power and Millers EcoMax additive, produced a bit of soot in the exhaust so am trying +1
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Anyone tried the Mosslemann solution? They don’t quote any figures on their website?
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do you mean the new iTronic. no but i was very interested. sounds like a good bit of kit not sure how it works though
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Managed to pickup a bluespark pro + boost on an auction site and got it reprogrammed, anyone running this on a 325d? wondering what best settings are.
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Managed to pickup a bluespark pro + boost on an auction site and got it reprogrammed, anyone running this on a 325d? wondering what best settings are.
Have a look on Babybmw - few people running these on their 125d's (assuming this is the same engine as yours).

Seems the 25d suffers the same fuel cut issues as described in this thread on the 35d motor (wonder if something to do with the twin turbo setup) so you may want to try a conservative setting like C6 or D7 to begin with.
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Have a look on Babybmw - few people running these on their 125d's (assuming this is the same engine as yours).

Seems the 25d suffers the same fuel cut issues as described in this thread on the 35d motor (wonder if something to do with the twin turbo setup) so you may want to try a conservative setting like C6 or D7 to begin with.
Good shout, forgot about that site Have it on C6 and defo notice a difference.
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I have just fitted my Bluespark CR1 Tech box onto my F31 330d so there cheapsest one via there eBay shop, £89.

Fitted the box on MAP1 on POSITION 5. Car feels better, they state that MAP1 is low/midrange power, with economy.

If I change it to MAP2 then that states maximum power higher revs, but will I have no lower down grunt and then just all the power in the upper rev range?

Any advice?

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I have just fitted my Bluespark CR1 Tech box onto my F31 330d so there cheapsest one via there eBay shop, £89.

Fitted the box on MAP1 on POSITION 5. Car feels better, they state that MAP1 is low/midrange power, with economy.

If I change it to MAP2 then that states maximum power higher revs, but will I have no lower down grunt and then just all the power in the upper rev range?

Any advice?

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Not sure how the box is set up but when I had the BS Pro I had it on E7
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Not sure how the box is set up but when I had the BS Pro I had it on E7
It has two settings MAP 1 and MAP 2

Then fine tune it from 1-5

I have it on maximum power at higher revs, with this setting, I am guessing there will be no extra power low/midrange revs now? It feels quick in all of the rev range on my 330d, more of a quick after 3000rpm.

Some graphs I have seen, on the BS Pro etc with it turned to maximum, that power has increased in all of the rev range,
Not just the upper.

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It has two settings MAP 1 and MAP 2

Then fine tune it from 1-5

I have it on maximum power at higher revs, with this setting, I am guessing there will be no extra power low/midrange revs now? It feels quick in all of the rev range on my 330d, more of a quick after 3000rpm.

Some graphs I have seen, on the BS Pro etc with it turned to maximum, that power has increased in all of the rev range,
Not just the upper.

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No idea then mate.

Ultimately you should just get a remap and get it done properly, it will save you money in the long term.
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No idea then mate.

Ultimately you should just get a remap and get it done properly, it will save you money in the long term.
For £80-90 you canít complain, the car feels better. I think I will have to have a play around with the settings and see.

I was looking for an answer, instead of me changing the settings and then testing it out.

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For £80-90 you canít complain, the car feels better. I think I will have to have a play around with the settings and see.

I was looking for an answer, instead of me changing the settings and then testing it out.

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I think teaston has the CR tech box, albeit on the 35d. His settings might be a good start. On the Pro box I think we all ended up on E7 in the end (whether 30d or 35d) so there likely will be some comparability. End of the day though there will be some personal preference involved. Personally I like low down shove, whereas other prefer to ring it out!
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For £80-90 you can’t complain, the car feels better. I think I will have to have a play around with the settings and see.

I was looking for an answer, instead of me changing the settings and then testing it out.

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What I mean is once you start with engine tuning boxes etc you slowly progress to other options.

I went with a BS box then DTUK box then a remap.

A £90 tuning box is not very reassuring on a £15k engine.

The CR boxes are about as basic as you can get.

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I think teaston has the CR tech box, albeit on the 35d. His settings might be a good start. On the Pro box I think we all ended up on E7 in the end (whether 30d or 35d) so there likely will be some comparability. End of the day though there will be some personal preference involved. Personally I like low down shove, whereas other prefer to ring it out!
I will take a look/ask the member.

Yea mines the basic CR Tech, I had the setting upped alittle over the default, now I have it on the maximum setting.

I like the lower/midrange grunt, like overtaking. There isnít as much info on these boxe, compares to there upper end models.

I donít want to add power ďonlyĒ the upper rev range and add nothing lower down, as daily driving isnít full throttle to the redline.

Thanks for your input!

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I think teaston has the CR tech box, albeit on the 35d. His settings might be a good start. On the Pro box I think we all ended up on E7 in the end (whether 30d or 35d) so there likely will be some comparability. End of the day though there will be some personal preference involved. Personally I like low down shove, whereas other prefer to ring it out!
I will take a look/ask the member.

Yea mines the basic CR Tech, I had the setting upped alittle over the default, now I have it on the maximum setting.

I like the lower/midrange grunt, like overtaking. There isnít as much info on these boxe, compares to there upper end models.

I donít want to add power ďonlyĒ the upper rev range and add nothing lower down, as daily driving isnít full throttle to the redline.

Thanks for your input!

Luke
On the CR tech the first 3 settings are for low end to mid range torque, setting 4 & 5 are for top end power.

I have mine on 3 (when it's fitted) as who can use top end power on public roads.
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On the CR tech the first 3 settings are for low end to mid range torque, setting 4 & 5 are for top end power.

I have mine on 3 (when it's fitted) as who can use top end power on public roads.
Thatís great.

So I have mine on MAP2 and position 5. So if I have MAP2 and location 3, that should give me the maximum power in the midrange?

Is that how yours is currently setup?

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