DIY: F30 High Beam Assist Retrofit (Xenon Only)

dncomputech · 06-23-2019, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by XXM235i

Hi guys,

Hoping someone can help with a little issue I'm having with this retrofit. I have fitted a new rearview mirror with FLA camera and steering column stalks with HBA button and have also done the wiring.

The issue I'm having is after updating/coding the FA to include options 5AC and 5AP (as i just have the standard Xenon headlights),the FLA module is not showing up in the SVT list. I also now have a 'camera based system malfunction' for the high beam assist camera. Any help/advice would be amazing, as after a lot of research I still can't seem to work it out

Just for reference I have a BMW F22 M235i.

If you are sure to go right.
You try activating FA and read ECU does not read VCM.

XXM235i · 06-24-2019, 06:14 AM

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Originally Posted by dncomputech

If you are sure to go right.
You try activating FA and read ECU does not read VCM.

I've tried editing the FA and then writing the FA back to the car in VCM, before VO coding and also tried just editing the FA and then going straight on to VO coding, but doing it either way still doesn't get the FLA module to show up in the ECU list when reading SVT.

I'm a bit lost as to what else to try as I can't seem to find anyone who has had a similar issue and don't want to keep playing around and risk messing something up!

dncomputech · 06-24-2019, 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by XXM235i

I've tried editing the FA and then writing the FA back to the car in VCM, before VO coding and also tried just editing the FA and then going straight on to VO coding, but doing it either way still doesn't get the FLA module to show up in the ECU list when reading SVT.

I'm a bit lost as to what else to try as I can't seem to find anyone who has had a similar issue and don't want to keep playing around and risk messing something up!

Mirror with my FLA has K_Can2 and my car F10 also has K_Can2. You make sure your car and FLA mirror have K_Can2 like me, because I know there is a FLA mirror using K_CAN 1.
In Esys Expert Mode window >> Coding >>> Read Vehile Order (FA With 5AC) >>> SVT Actual window select read ECU (do not read VCM).

XXM235i · 06-24-2019, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by dncomputech

Mirror with my FLA has K_Can2 and my car F10 also has K_Can2. You make sure your car and FLA mirror have K_Can2 like me, because I know there is a FLA mirror using K_CAN 1.
In Esys Expert Mode window >> Coding >>> Read Vehile Order (FA With 5AC) >>> SVT Actual window select read ECU (do not read VCM).

I'm 99% sure my car has K_Can2 wiring. It looks exactly the same as what roxxor has pictured. I looked up the mirror part number on realoem and it is compatible with all F2X models so it should be correct. The mirror has 6 pins in the plug, whereas the plug in my car only has 5 pins (including the 2 I added), so not sure if that makes a difference?I am getting a 'Camera-based support systems failure' High beam assist unavailable message, so it seems the car is picking up the camera is there.

I've attached some pics of the wiring and plugs if that helps. I've also attached a pic of the ECU's that I have listed after adding option 5AC and 5AP to the FA, and then selecting read ECU.

Would the FLA module show up if there was a problem with the wiring? As the only other thing I can think of is that for some reason there is an issue with the wire taps.

Really appreciate all your help so far

dncomputech · 06-25-2019, 01:39 AM

[QUOTE=XXM235i;24952952]I'm 99% sure my car has K_Can2 wiring. It looks exactly the same as what roxxor has pictured. I looked up the mirror part number on realoem and it is compatible with all F2X models so it should be correct. The mirror has 6 pins in the plug, whereas the plug in my car only has 5 pins (including the 2 I added), so not sure if that makes a difference?

I also have the FLA Mirror like you, But my F10 doesn't have K_can2 on the sunroof, so I go like the picture I attached.
I am like you Mirror FLA equipped with 6 wires but 5-wire cars.
I have note No. 9 wire (purple ? ) The cord is not connected to anyone.
- I'm different from you, I found ECU FLA in SVT
- I am having this situation not resolved yet.
1. / Everything works perfectly (I tried driving on dark roads) after VO the ECU FRM, DSC, JBBFE, SZL, FLA, KOMBI With FA 5AC. But when I turned off the engine and started the car again, HBA did not work.
2. / When I accidentally choose <Edit FDL ECU FRM> in Esys (although I do not change the value in the ECU FRM), the HBA works (the HBA button on the SZL cluster turns on and turns off the working HBA) but when Turn off the engine and start the car again, the HBA does not work either.
I also ran out of ideas for this additional equipment.

VerbotenStriple · 07-13-2019, 12:14 PM

Will this work on a 2018 F33?

dncomputech · 07-14-2019, 06:09 AM

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Originally Posted by VerbotenStriple

Will this work on a 2018 F33?

I don't have 2018 F33, so I'm not sure
But my 2016 F10 retrofit failed.
Who can Teamview make it work I am willing to pay the bill

jkwhar · 08-01-2019, 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by dncomputech

I don't have 2018 F33, so I'm not sure
But my 2016 F10 retrofit failed.
Who can Teamview make it work I am willing to pay the bill

You cant re-enable HBA via the button the stalk after shutting the car off and back on?

dncomputech · 08-07-2019, 01:08 AM

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Originally Posted by jkwhar

You cant re-enable HBA via the button the stalk after shutting the car off and back on?

sorry slow response
Yes, I cannot activate HBA with the HBA button on the steering wheel after the engine is turned off and the vehicle is turned on again
But HBA works after selecting Edit code FRM even though no parameters have changed in FRM.
In Ista + check the HBA function according to the instructions, OK does not report errors.

dncomputech · 08-08-2019, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by jkwhar

You cant re-enable HBA via the button the stalk after shutting the car off and back on?

Who can Teamview I am willing to bear the cost

TePee · 08-19-2019, 04:02 PM

If someone is interested ... as have now a new F34 with stock HBA I´m selling a complete HBA retrofit kit, which I have used for my formes F34. It is including rear view mirror with FLA camera, baseplate, socket with custom wiring, steering wheel column switch cluster with FLA switch. Check details in the classifieds section here.

@XXM235i: Are you sure your wiring is 100% OK? Normally FLA should show up in the ECU list from the beginning on as far as I remember my retrofit some time ago. The "camera based system malfunction" is no evidence that your FLA is recognized somehow. I think this failure only appeares as your FEM is coded for FLA and is awaiting the FLA, but it can´t see it at all.

Only 5 cables are normal. Check your CAN connections. Such wire taps are not always reliable. I strongly doubt your wiring.

natlbar · 11-19-2019, 02:38 PM

If anybody is wondering, if you have a kfas2 camera already but don't have HBA all you have to do is get the steering wheel stock with the HBA button and get it coded. I did it this last week and it works great.

TheBreeze · 11-27-2019, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by natlbar

If anybody is wondering, if you have a kfas2 camera already but don't have HBA all you have to do is get the steering wheel stock with the HBA button and get it coded. I did it this last week and it works great.

Can you please be specific with what you coded to enable it?

XuLeTZ · 02-21-2020, 09:07 PM

I have an F31, already have the kamera from factory for 8TH, does this camera support high beam assist as well?
I think mine is KAFAS or something like that.
VIN: F786504

Thank you

jkwhar · 06-15-2020, 01:18 PM

If anyones intrested, I have the FLA camera and the base plate covers for sale...

https://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1730456

Daggers · 06-15-2020, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by jkwhar

If anyones intrested, I have the FLA camera and the base plate covers for sale...

https://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1730456

Bloody hell!
I can’t sell my FLA mirror and covers for £45 here in the UK!
I’m guessing parts are rarer stateside.

I might advertise over there lol

jkwhar · 06-15-2020, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Daggers

Bloody hell!
I can’t sell my FLA mirror and covers for £45 here in the UK!
I’m guessing parts are rarer stateside.

I might advertise over there lol

Wow! don't tell me that! haha, i just checked on ebay and theres only 2 FLA mirrors available in the US. Rest are across Europe. Good luck on your sales!

Daggers · 06-15-2020, 01:35 PM

No fair play - different markets of course!

Good luck

kd8 · 07-17-2020, 02:27 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackGhost

Hi roxxor! I have 320d F30 from 02/2012, my car has a light/rain sensor, but when I opened the roof module I discowered, that I don't have K-CAN2 wires in the Black 16-Pin connector from FZD module. Does that mean, that I need to route wries from FEM module? Do you have any idea where I can also find K-CAN2 around roof area to connect to?

Thanks!

Hello BlackGhost or anyone else who knows how to do it...

I have the same problem, no K-CAN2 wires in roof module. Did you route wires and how did you do it? Which connctors (pins) in FEM did you use?
I know it passed quite a lot of time, but anyway...

Thanks in advance

CELSDK · 07-22-2020, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by kd8

Hello BlackGhost or anyone else who knows how to do it...

I have the same problem, no K-CAN2 wires in roof module. Did you route wires and how did you do it? Which connctors (pins) in FEM did you use?
I know it passed quite a lot of time, but anyway...

Thanks in advance

You'll need to tap in to the K_CAN2_H and K_CAN2_L at the FEM and run the wires to the roof module/mirror. Just did this today.

FEM Connector A173*8B:
Pin 50 is K_CAN2_H and is connected to mirror connector A60*1B pin 4.
Pin 49 is K_CAN2_L and is connected to mirror connector A60*1B pin 5.

kd8 · 09-03-2020, 03:16 AM

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Originally Posted by CELSDK

You'll need to tap in to the K_CAN2_H and K_CAN2_L at the FEM and run the wires to the roof module/mirror. Just did this today.

FEM Connector A173*8B:
Pin 50 is K_CAN2_H and is connected to mirror connector A60*1B pin 4.
Pin 49 is K_CAN2_L and is connected to mirror connector A60*1B pin 5.

Thank you very much. I did not check forum untill today, because I am doing steering wheel heating retorfit in the same time.
Your car is E91? Is FEM module (pins) and wiring the same for my F31?

Anyway thanks, I will let you know, If I succeed.

CELSDK · 09-04-2020, 01:28 AM

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Originally Posted by kd8

Quote:

Originally Posted by CELSDK

You'll need to tap in to the K_CAN2_H and K_CAN2_L at the FEM and run the wires to the roof module/mirror. Just did this today.

FEM Connector A173*8B:
Pin 50 is K_CAN2_H and is connected to mirror connector A60*1B pin 4.
Pin 49 is K_CAN2_L and is connected to mirror connector A60*1B pin 5.

Thank you very much. I did not check forum untill today, because I am doing steering wheel heating retorfit in the same time.
Your car is E91? Is FEM module (pins) and wiring the same for my F31?

Anyway thanks, I will let you know, If I succeed.

Mine is an F31 as well, so it should be exactly the same :-)

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dncomputech Enlisted Member 0 Rep 30 Posts Drives: F10 520i 2016 Join Date: Jun 2017 Location: Viet Nam iTrader: (0)	[QUOTE=XXM235i;24952952]I'm 99% sure my car has K_Can2 wiring. It looks exactly the same as what roxxor has pictured. I looked up the mirror part number on realoem and it is compatible with all F2X models so it should be correct. The mirror has 6 pins in the plug, whereas the plug in my car only has 5 pins (including the 2 I added), so not sure if that makes a difference? I also have the FLA Mirror like you, But my F10 doesn't have K_can2 on the sunroof, so I go like the picture I attached. I am like you Mirror FLA equipped with 6 wires but 5-wire cars. I have note No. 9 wire (purple ? ) The cord is not connected to anyone. - I'm different from you, I found ECU FLA in SVT - I am having this situation not resolved yet. 1. / Everything works perfectly (I tried driving on dark roads) after VO the ECU FRM, DSC, JBBFE, SZL, FLA, KOMBI With FA 5AC. But when I turned off the engine and started the car again, HBA did not work. 2. / When I accidentally choose <Edit FDL ECU FRM> in Esys (although I do not change the value in the ECU FRM), the HBA works (the HBA button on the SZL cluster turns on and turns off the working HBA) but when Turn off the engine and start the car again, the HBA does not work either. I also ran out of ideas for this additional equipment. Attached Images
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