[NYOreo23]

Originally Posted by Sportstick

Hatchback functionality in a car with superior handing dynamics. No point arguing aesthetics, as subjective as chocolate vs strawberry ice cream...ok, we all know chocolate is “better “.

Hmmm would love to test drive one, one day. I wonder if they’d give me one as loaner

......vanilla trumps all.
Chocolate > Strawberry tho.
Strawberry=

[Sportstick]

Originally Posted by NYOreo23

......vanilla trumps all.
Chocolate > Strawberry tho.
Strawberry=

Didn't even consider vanilla for the comparison...vanilla should be illegal! The ultimate non-flavor...chocolate rules!

Sort of like arguing exterior design...

[Fuller]

Originally Posted by oregondonor

coupe1
/ko͞op/

noun
1.
a car with a fixed roof, two doors, and a sloping rear.
2.
HISTORICAL
a four-wheeled enclosed carriage for two passengers and a driver.

No mention of four doors here.

Why are we calling a four door a coupe?

Whats the point of debating the semantics. Bmw has a four door version of the 4 series, regardless of what you think it should be called. If you don't like it, don't buy it.

[Gen13 F36]

Originally Posted by Fuller

Whats the point of debating the semantics. Bmw has a four door version of the 4 series, regardless of what you think it should be called. If you don't like it, don't buy it.

+1

Cry babies

[pollpoll]

Originally Posted by Fuller

Whats the point of debating the semantics. Bmw has a four door version of the 4 series, regardless of what you think it should be called. If you don't like it, don't buy it.

It is more accurate to be called 4 series wagon

[MmmmmM2]

Originally Posted by pollpoll

It is more accurate to be called 4 series wagon

But it's not a wagon.

[goj]

Originally Posted by Sportstick

Hatchback functionality in a car with superior handing dynamics. No point arguing aesthetics, as subjective as chocolate vs strawberry ice cream...ok, we all know chocolate is "better ".

The 440i GC has minimal difference to the F30 post-LCI in terms of feel.

Equally optioned the 440i 4GC weighs 200lbs more than the 340i and you can definitely feel it.

Not sure what makes you site superior handling when it's basically the same car but heavier

[Gen13 F36]

Originally Posted by goj

The 440i GC has minimal difference to the F30 post-LCI in terms of feel.

Equally optioned the 440i 4GC weighs 200lbs more than the 340i and you can definitely feel it.

Not sure what makes you site superior handling when it's basically the same car but heavier

I heard lower center of gravity

[pollpoll]

Originally Posted by F30ZHP

But it's not a wagon.

"sports wagon" then

[pollpoll]

Originally Posted by Fuller

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I've always liked the look of the 4gc over the f30 sedan or f32 coupe. It looks nothing like the hunch back GT, and I highly suggest that the person who compared it to the Pontiac Aztec needs to have their eyes checked. The gc doesn't even look like a hatch back.

Ive always thought that the 4 series 2-door coupe looks ok, but also awkward to me. It's like the doors are too long. To me it's like they took a car that's meant to have four doors and forced it into a two door, and now you're stuck with these comically long, impractical doors. It just looks wrong and contrived. I think the same about every large coupe. A coupe should be a small car. By comparison, the 2-series coupe looks much better than the 4 series coupe, and worlds better than the 6 and 8-series coupes.

Anyway, you can try to open your mind to it, and see if it grows on you over time. Sometimes, when that initial anxiety from making a large purchase goes away, you find that the buyer's remorse does as well. If after some time though, you feel the same, the car will probably always feel like a compromise. I've been in this scenario before and ditched a car I wasn't happy with after having it for under a year. If you do this, make sure you can absorb the financial hit. You can also explore options like swap a lease, or whatever, if you leased it.

The lesson learned is to not compromise on the car you want just because a dealer coaxed you in with a good lease deal. This is especially true when shopping for a premium car. If you're going to compromise by getting a car you don't like in order to save a couple or few grand, why shop for an expensive car to begin with. Sure you saved a couple thousand, but now you're stuck with a car that you're not happy with. A small compromise, such as getting a different but still acceptable color, is one thing. Getting a model you dislike is another.

Anyway, good luck with whatever you decide to do.

to me the extra long two doors are the most stunning part of 4 series coupe.
I feel the differences of rear roof and trunk are minor compared to the doors.

the two long doors marks all style and the beauty of 4 coupe. and they gives much better driver view without being blocked by B pilar. this makes coupe a completely different car from gran coupe, or 4 series sedan/sports wagon to be more accurate, not just a variance.

but if my GC came with mppsk I would've forgot the looking I guess.

[Sportstick]

Originally Posted by goj

Not sure what makes you site superior handling when it's basically the same car but heavier

Wider track and lower Cg, as reported here.

https://www.motor1.com/news/143701/b...-series-coupe/

Of course, right now, we have a mix of F and G platforms in the showroom, so we need to see the new GC dimensions in the near future.

[Sportstick]

Originally Posted by pollpoll

"sports wagon" then

Nope...no kind of wagon.

[stobit]

As this article said, GC is the coolest car no body buys.
https://www.autotrader.com/car-news/...dy-buys-260912

This article cited BMW sales numbers and GC only accounts for less than 30% of total 4 series sale in 2017.

BMW never split 4 series sale number to trims. In my area in SoCal, there are so many 4 series coupes on road everyday, but only occasionally I spot a GC. It is much rarer. even rarer than M4 in my area. I guess GC only took a very small portion of 4 sales number, like 10-20%. In my area, dealers always have like 12 Coupes, but only 2 GC on their lots.

OP you got your incentive for a reason. you just picked a car that is not popular, that is discount always comes after....right? GC looks not as good as coupe, but also cheaper a few grand. When I shopped my GC, dealer told me the usually gave more discount on sale price for GC compared to Coupe. It is just harder to let them go

[MmmmmM2]

At this point, just enjoy the car. Not much else you can do.

[Fuller]

Originally Posted by goj

The 440i GC has minimal difference to the F30 post-LCI in terms of feel.

Equally optioned the 440i 4GC weighs 200lbs more than the 340i and you can definitely feel it.

Not sure what makes you site superior handling when it's basically the same car but heavier

The f30 and f36 are not the exact same car. I don't feel like listing the differences, you can do your own research if you care to be better informed. If not, I don't care.

I've driven both, LCI and pre-LCI f30 and f36, and there are certainly some clear differences in how the cars feel. If you can't feel the difference, I don't know what to tell you. There are those who can't tell the difference between a $100 bottle of fine wine and wine sold in a jug either.

[TodmordenLad]

Originally Posted by Sportstick

Hatchback functionality in a car with superior handing dynamics. No point arguing aesthetics, as subjective as chocolate vs strawberry ice cream...ok, we all know chocolate is “better “.

^^this
"Hatchback functionality in a car with superior handing dynamics"
Perfecto

[Sportstick]

Originally Posted by Fuller

There are those who can't tell the difference between a $100 bottle of fine wine and wine sold in a jug either.

That would be me!

[Calvin36]

Originally Posted by pollpoll

I started to wonder why 4GC ever exits.
If people like sedan they go 3 series, if they like sportier look they go 4 coupe. I see some threads claimed among half of 4 productions are GC though I didn't find any official data online to support it. So why BMW just produces them to let them stay longer in dealers's lots, harder to sell and need incentive to let them go...

On leasehackr forum, there is a tread discussing a special order 440 GC staying on dealer's lot for a year and no body buys. They said if it was coupe it would've be sold right away.

I paid some attention to the 4 series on road. I see about 4-5 times coupe everyday and but gran coupe only about once a month. Even dealer mentioned GC is harder to sell so they all left on the lot.
So if GC took half of 4 series productions is true, maybe most them were sold in Europe? the hometown of Wagon lovers? 4GC is a really better looking wagon compared to 3 series wagons.

I'm assuming up-marketing. It's a 4 series priced car.. but you want more doors? OK! Haha who knows.

[FinalRenegade]

I love the 4 series GC, I had a silver one last year. It will certainly grow on you! Colors and wheel choices make such a difference.

Try 405M wheels on the sucker, and make sure its 20 inches, here is how it looks on a GC; the bi-color silver and black combo makes it so aggressive.



The hatch-back nature makes the GC a perfect daily driver and the performance is shocking, I'm sure the only gripe you have is the silhouette. Change the wheels, if you can't at this moment then save up for them and perhaps get the vinyl (M-performance) on the side skirts.

There are also more aggressive M-Sport parts that you can fit like diffusers with fins, an aggressive yet subtle front lip, and make sure your interior suits your tastes.

Its not easy being a GC owner, but trust me, 95% of other owners are envying you right now as you drive past them. YOU WILL LOVE IT once it looks the way you want it to.

Here is the Diffuser that makes it look much better!

[BigJack75]

Cool I have a sport wagon and love it!!!

[tex2670]

Originally Posted by NYOreo23

Hmmm would love to test drive one, one day. I wonder if they’d give me one as loaner

West German in Ft Washington PA has them in the loaner fleet from time to time.

[tex2670]

Originally Posted by Sportstick

Didn't even consider vanilla for the comparison...vanilla should be illegal! The ultimate non-flavor...chocolate rules!

Sort of like arguing exterior design...

Too bad it's the USA's best selling ice cream flavor.