Comparo: BMW 4 Series Coupe versus Mercedes C Class Coupe

speedfan · 06-17-2013, 02:54 AM

HOw could the Merc get away with the Euro safety hood line thing?

Wish BMW's hood didnt have that ugly line.

Ffs630 · 06-17-2013, 04:54 AM

I could never imagine paying that kind of money and get shorted on performance! That was why i went with bmw in the 1st place.

BGM · 06-17-2013, 07:02 AM

i'm a little disappointed with the 4-series, but will reserve full judgement until i see an m sport in the metal..

perhaps they are intentionally making them look a little bit less appealing, in order to get buyers to move up the range into a 6er? in which case, it's working i think!

///S65 · 06-17-2013, 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by e92dave

This is an unfair comparison, the c class is the corolla of the benz dept in the u.s., and if youre gona bring up the c63, its only purchased bc its the cheapest amg you can get. Obv the 4 series wipes the floor with it, but thats not an accomplishment to brag about. The 4 series should be much farther above and beyond

Good point.

nick3753 · 06-17-2013, 09:26 AM

At least MB isn't whoring out AMG like BMW is with ///M.

oro. · 06-17-2013, 10:15 AM

I don't like it at all. Nothing more to say.

aceking4u · 06-17-2013, 10:24 AM

No Comparison IMHO (and I drive a C350). Can't wait to order my new 4 series. Should be compared to an A5/S5. Mercedes lack in so many areas. Only thing I like about my C350 is the gas mileage - can squeeze 375-400 miles on long road trips.

Frosty · 06-17-2013, 10:44 AM

this bevel on the 4-klasse is VERY MB to me....

Saphirschwarz · 06-17-2013, 11:43 AM

That merc is a joke.

E coupe is the only one you could compare with.

pkimM3r · 06-17-2013, 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by e90im

Have you driven f30 with "new and improved" electric steering?

I should have noted with an asterisk - driving dynamics even with all this watered down shit.

But to answer your question - yes I have, and I was passing plenty of cars on the track and have placed 2nd in two autox (against n54/5's) events with an electric steering f30 n20. This was with a "no-line" model. The sport with DHP is gobs better.

Have you driven one?

pkimM3r · 06-17-2013, 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by nick3753

At least MB isn't whoring out AMG like BMW is with ///M.

oh yes they are...ask any MB owner and they will say yes I have an amg. I respond by saying an amg kit right? NO - an amg. LOL

kooper · 06-17-2013, 12:51 PM

This thread is making my head hurt.

The C Coupe is a direct competitor to the 4 Series. Here is the line-up from BMW with the range of direct competitors from MB and Audi:

3 Series / C Class / A4
4 Series / C Class Coupe / A5
5 Series / E Class / A6
6 Series / E Class Coupe / ???
6 GC / CLS / A7

Now yes, we all know that the Mercedes E Coupe is nothing more than a slightly more tarted up C Coupe, but that still doesn't change the fact the Mercedes tries to convince people that it's a 6 Series competitor, not a 4 Series competitor.

I'm actually kind of curious to see what Merc will do with the next C. The C Coupe came about to be a direct competitor to the 3 Coupe, but since BMW has now pulled the trigger with the 4 Series moniker, I wouldn't be surprised to see the next C Coupe adopt another moniker. Will we see the CLK nomenclature make a return from the dead? Maybe something else altogether? Who knows.

Be that as it may, right here right now, the C Coupe is the 4 Series competitor. Not the E Coupe, not the CLS, or whatever else you care to mention.

CSL-Fanatik · 06-17-2013, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by OverDriven

Surely you're kidding. The E coupe is not even nearly in the same price range at about $10,000 more.

Not really: A 335 and an E350 are very close.
In terms of size, etc. they are also match well. Others on the forum have also suggested the E as better comparison.

I think we'll see a few comparisons between the E350 and 335!
Cheers,

CSL

34.50 · 06-17-2013, 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kooper

This thread is making my head hurt.

The C Coupe is a direct competitor to the 4 Series. Here is the line-up from BMW with the range of direct competitors from MB and Audi:

3 Series / C Class / A4
4 Series / C Class Coupe / A5
5 Series / E Class / A6
6 Series / E Class Coupe / ???
6 GC / CLS / A7

Now yes, we all know that the Mercedes E Coupe is nothing more than a slightly more tarted up C Coupe, but that still doesn't change the fact the Mercedes tries to convince people that it's a 6 Series competitor, not a 4 Series competitor.

I'm actually kind of curious to see what Merc will do with the next C. The C Coupe came about to be a direct competitor to the 3 Coupe, but since BMW has now pulled the trigger with the 4 Series moniker, I wouldn't be surprised to see the next C Coupe adopt another moniker. Will we see the CLK nomenclature make a return from the dead? Maybe something else altogether? Who knows.

Be that as it may, right here right now, the C Coupe is the 4 Series competitor. Not the E Coupe, not the CLS, or whatever else you care to mention.

Yeah, I'll agree with the people saying the E coupe is not a competitor to the 4 series. Two different cars, with two different luxury styles. Plus with the E coupe, you have a choice of a v8 (E550), and you don't get that with the 4 series (yet). The upcoming M4 would compete with the C63 coupe.

Love the new 4 series, but I also love the E coupe (only 550 though). I always wondered why the AMG boys never made a E coupe AMG.

GFzand · 06-17-2013, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by 34.50

Quote:

Originally Posted by kooper

This thread is making my head hurt.

The C Coupe is a direct competitor to the 4 Series. Here is the line-up from BMW with the range of direct competitors from MB and Audi:

3 Series / C Class / A4
4 Series / C Class Coupe / A5
5 Series / E Class / A6
6 Series / E Class Coupe / ???
6 GC / CLS / A7

Now yes, we all know that the Mercedes E Coupe is nothing more than a slightly more tarted up C Coupe, but that still doesn't change the fact the Mercedes tries to convince people that it's a 6 Series competitor, not a 4 Series competitor.

I'm actually kind of curious to see what Merc will do with the next C. The C Coupe came about to be a direct competitor to the 3 Coupe, but since BMW has now pulled the trigger with the 4 Series moniker, I wouldn't be surprised to see the next C Coupe adopt another moniker. Will we see the CLK nomenclature make a return from the dead? Maybe something else altogether? Who knows.

Be that as it may, right here right now, the C Coupe is the 4 Series competitor. Not the E Coupe, not the CLS, or whatever else you care to mention.

Yeah, I'll agree with the people saying the E coupe is not a competitor to the 4 series. Two different cars, with two different luxury styles. Plus with the E coupe, you have a choice of a v8 (E550), and you don't get that with the 4 series (yet). The upcoming M4 would compete with the C63 coupe.

Love the new 4 series, but I also love the E coupe (only 550 though). I always wondered why the AMG boys never made a E coupe AMG.

MB executives acknowledge that it was an error not to make a E63 Coupe so supposedly they are working on it for the next generation.

http://m.autoblog.com/2013/05/29/exec-admits-benz-should-have-created-an-e63-amg-coupe/

Renus · 06-17-2013, 05:16 PM

When comparing with A5 and C coupe, 4 series is the most ugly and stupid looking among them, dissappointed.

Southjersey128 · 06-17-2013, 06:00 PM

The 4 is so much better than that Accord coupe. Ohh wait that's a Merc?!

IM2C · 06-17-2013, 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by pkim1079

I should have noted with an asterisk - driving dynamics even with all this watered down shit.

But to answer your question - yes I have, and I was passing plenty of cars on the track and have placed 2nd in two autox (against n54/5's) events with an electric steering f30 n20. This was with a "no-line" model. The sport with DHP is gobs better.

Have you driven one?

I own one....

OnlyTruth · 06-17-2013, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by 34.50

Styling wise - C-class from the front, BMW for back, and sides are tied. Engine wise - BMW

pkimM3r · 06-17-2013, 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by e90im

I own one....

I used to own one and besides the soft steering, once driven hard it is very driveable and turns in great, squats, and then exits out fast. I don't have one anymore because I got a steal on an e90 m3.

How hard have you driven your f30?

Dog Face Pony Soldier · 06-17-2013, 10:16 PM

M Sport 335i vs the new M-B CLA45 AMG would be interesting. I hate to say it but I think the new CLA45 is going to scoop up a lot of people considering the 335i.

IM2C · 06-18-2013, 07:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pkim1079

I used to own one and besides the soft steering, once driven hard it is very driveable and turns in great, squats, and then exits out fast. I don't have one anymore because I got a steal on an e90 m3.

How hard have you driven your f30?

As hard as my e92 and e90.

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kooper Private First Class 43 Rep 109 Posts Drives: E36 M3 (I wish) Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Somewhere iTrader: (0)	This thread is making my head hurt. The C Coupe is a direct competitor to the 4 Series. Here is the line-up from BMW with the range of direct competitors from MB and Audi: 3 Series / C Class / A4 4 Series / C Class Coupe / A5 5 Series / E Class / A6 6 Series / E Class Coupe / ??? 6 GC / CLS / A7 Now yes, we all know that the Mercedes E Coupe is nothing more than a slightly more tarted up C Coupe, but that still doesn't change the fact the Mercedes tries to convince people that it's a 6 Series competitor, not a 4 Series competitor. I'm actually kind of curious to see what Merc will do with the next C. The C Coupe came about to be a direct competitor to the 3 Coupe, but since BMW has now pulled the trigger with the 4 Series moniker, I wouldn't be surprised to see the next C Coupe adopt another moniker. Will we see the CLK nomenclature make a return from the dead? Maybe something else altogether? Who knows. Be that as it may, right here right now, the C Coupe is the 4 Series competitor. Not the E Coupe, not the CLS, or whatever else you care to mention.
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