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Very interesting and definitely a rare case. Most people hear the whine and are not DIY'ers. Pretty scary. These motors are loud in general.
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06-11-2019, 09:43 AM | #136 |
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That's the other thing too, especially early model N20's SO loud. Maybe there was a slight whine and it was just hidden. Who knows...
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06-11-2019, 09:44 AM | #137 |
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At least in my experience, the whine was so light that I could easily see people not catching it in time. Not saying that was the case here, but it was only because I leave my windows down in my garage, and when I started it up in the mornings, I could hear just barely hear something off since it was in a confined space and the sound was echoing off the wall. When BMW tried to replicate it out in the lot, neither of us could hear it until they took a shop stethoscope to it. Then they pinpointed it and followed protocol to get the timing chain and the associated parts replaced.
I too did (and still do) early oil changes, the ASS has been off forever, never really drive it hard, and properly maintained it either myself or through the dealership. They said it's become common enough, at least at my dealership, but wasn't widespread. They also were not able to tell me what they think causes it other than saying cars with the newer parts have never been in for that issue. |
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Also, sspade I wish we could import all the failures that have been Reported to NHTSA too. It would be awesome to see the list that the lawyers have too. Supposedly the one lawyer I talked to said she has had over a few thousand phone calls. Juts looking at the 2013 328i RWD there seem to be a lot! https://www.nhtsa.gov/vehicle/2013/B...4%252520DR/RWD |
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06-11-2019, 10:26 AM | #139 |
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On the plus side, you're getting the updated parts installed that come along with the newer engine you found. Same as you said, after reading about these failures from others over the years, there is no way in hell that I'd keep this car outside of warranty if the timing chain was the original. Fortunately (or not?) I had that fail, and at the same time they found a valve cover gasket leak, and covered under warranty.
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06-11-2019, 10:43 AM | #140 |
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I will spend the money at an Indy shop once mine is out of warranty. I plan on keeping this car for another 5 or more years
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06-11-2019, 12:05 PM | #142 |
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Awesome... Yea, I have an extra vehicle to drive so I'll just work on it a few nights and over the weekend and get it done. Definitely not on my list of things I wanted to do but what can you do.
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06-12-2019, 03:26 PM | #144 |
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Update: Mechanic is getting ready to pull motor. He just told me once he pulled the under-tray he noticed my power steering motor hanging? WTF? I def had power steering. Looks like two bolts rattled loose long time ago and the final one finally popped out as well. Must have happened during all the towing?
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Edit: I believe it was a bulletin. Not recall. I remember a few members finding bolts in their driveway/garage and that's what it ended up being... |
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06-14-2019, 05:47 AM | #146 |
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BMW Has Officially Told Me, NO.
So, I'll start pulling the motor tonight and will order the other motor today or tomorrow. Maybe I should pick up some power steering bold while im at it |
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They are a reference for a replacement part for your car. That would be the latest compatible and available. Not the part your car was built with. In fact, the only thing your VIN on realoem does is determine the 4hex car type and build date. You can see this if you simply look at the URL after that. |
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I too fear my car is suffering from the same predicament. I however heard the whining noise and immediately took it to the dealer. I know this is a F30 forum but, my problem is I can't seem to find more people with MY2013 F10's citing these timing chain issues. All in the thread and soon to join the thread please continue to detail your experiences as they happen. I just want to get more of an idea of what to expect until I here something back from the SA. ***Quick back story*** I used to own a MY2014 320i xDrive: https://cdn.bimmerpost.com/forums/at...1&d=1561468269 Unfortunately this was the beauty after heading to work a 8 months ago: https://cdn.bimmerpost.com/forums/at...1&d=1561468269 Someone ran a stop sign and the Insurance took the rest Just hoping to have some time with the F10. Bought it 6 months ago with 50k miles and currently has 57k |
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I have made an appointment to get my timing chain and oil chain replaced next Monday at an indy shop. Should I get water pump and oil pump done at the same time (116k miles)?
I plan to keep the car several more years and I do a lot of highway driving. It is cost-effective for me to spend even a few thousand on repairs. I priced trading to a newer 328i without this potential problem, but that would cost me $8-10k, so this repair is much cheaper and will give me peace of mid when I'm on a road trip a thousand miles from home. |
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06-25-2019, 10:54 AM | #152 |
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Not certain about the oil pump replacement but I'd say doing the water pump is smart preventative maintenance at/near 100K mile mark.
Typically oil pumps last near forever, but I think I recall some issues on these N20/26 motors in that regard, hmm... |
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06-26-2019, 07:30 AM | #153 |
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Here's a peak of my timing chain guide through the oil filler hole at 91,328 miles. February 2012 Munich build.
No problems so far. https://www.dropbox.com/s/z5c634x03w...94317.jpg?dl=0 https://www.dropbox.com/s/994vmimucn...94323.jpg?dl=0 https://www.dropbox.com/s/rdqfmkmhml...94329.jpg?dl=0 https://www.dropbox.com/s/1v2gwgosm9...94405.jpg?dl=0 https://www.dropbox.com/s/pkh6gt94lc...94637.jpg?dl=0 https://www.dropbox.com/s/q9ygaplg7y...0_HDR.jpg?dl=0 Last edited by The Kurgan; 06-26-2019 at 01:29 PM.. |
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